You can't just relocate people.....

Philippines
September 25, 2012 7:55am CST
This is something that the Government doesn't understand. If they want to create development on commercials and different businesses, it should be done first to the location where you want to relocate the illegal settlers. A lot of them have been complaining that access to water, work, education or market are way off because they can't live that way with out the commercial zone. maybe these developers and architects should play SIM CITY and see how it affects a residential area if it's far away from it's commercial zone. right now in our subdivision, it's more commercialized because it's near Govt. Offices, Police and Fire Station, Barangay ang most specially a market and schools. if such offices are miles, how will they make up for the time and survive???? i mean how can they have livelihood?
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@louievill (18654)
• Philippines
25 Sep 12
How could we plan when these people keep on relocating themselves on other people's property? I don'think they have the right to demand they placed themselves there illegally and without proper permission, they have been using other people's property for years without paying a single centavo for rent, real estate tax, income tax, business tax cause there are a lot of business there too and sometimes even free electricity by making illegal connections. They also allow themselves to be used by corrupt government officials to stay in office I'm sorry for them but if they use their brains properly, years of living free, you should have at least already saved for your own voluntary relocation when the real owners would use the lot, they prefer to make lots of children they can hardly support and are very good in supporting their own vices.Again I am sorry for them but I would just like to state a fact, one reason why the Philippines cannot progress.
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@romzee (938)
• Philippines
25 Sep 12
I agree. They are professional squatters who trespass on government and others people property. Once relocated by the government and given free land, they sold it and again squats on some other land. An endless vicious cycle because instead of being punished they are being sympathize by our government.
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
I agree. I think that their relocation site isn't as commercialized but it is a good way to life start life again. Of course, the need t for water and electricity is essential and some relocation sites answer that need. Those people just don't want to be driven on a place they don't even own. If they want to stay on that place so badly, they should also make some sacrifices along the way. some of them had been given enough leniency and enough time to look for another place or job opportunity. If they cannot appreciate the efforts done for them, they don't earn the right to have a home of their own.
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@SIMPLYD (79665)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
I also agree with you Louie. On the first place , when they first squat there, the boldness coming from the earlier squatters , they are ready for any eventuality that at anytime they will be shooed away from that place because it wasn't theirs. I feel sad for those squatters that it has to happen that way. They have been given an ultimatum and they should have heeded that.
@jaiho2009 (39019)
• Philippines
25 Sep 12
dear LK, It's so sad to see our own people driven like animals. It is understood that they're illegal settlers but for God's sake...those people are Filipino citizen, How could a Filipino citizen be called "squatters" in his own country/land. See who are those people living in grand mansions- the foreigners who has the guts!!!! This is the kind of government that people choose....(so, is it right for them to suffer? ) I JUST DON'T KNOW!
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@Fulltank (2896)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
I'm sure the government understand it as they are the most intellectually educated people. I think the real problem lies on the motive. Why they need to relocate these people in the first place. Simply because the sight is a government property and the poor has no rights to be there? or simply because the site will be use for the betterment of the few people. And what about the courts who brings down the verdict of demolitions to these "informal settlers", do they have represented themselves clearly in the court? I don't think so...
@ztuberi (396)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Im not against the poor but, Isnt it in the first place, they are not suppose to be there and live there?
@ztuberi (396)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Then these informal settlers are somewhat lucky. They squat, government demolish them, BUT, they were given houses and even paid with high amount. Isn't that enough? Maybe it's already time for them to work on their own. We can't just squat anywhere. In fact there are warnings before government demolishes. People now are really abusing the so-called "human rights". They always say that it is their right, but they are actually abusing the benefits given to them. Too much I think.
@nhieleiko (109)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
The government should first fix the houses where the informal settlers will be relocated. If they demolish some place they should act first by knowing the residents there. The informal settlers are also the problem, they keep on struggling but they do not have the rights. Again, both parties have a problem.
@rog0322 (2834)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
26 Sep 12
Hi, Sim City, now that's a new idea from an old game. Why did they botch the process every time they do it? Most relocation efforts are actually half-hearted attempt to solve the problem of balancing the interest of the businessmen against the people who voted for these politicians who in turn, owe huge amount of campaign money during the elections from these businesses. It is not easy to uproot whole neighborhoods and just replant them elsewhere without the support services that they have been relying upon to survive on a daily basis. The planners seem to miss that point, as you've said, they should play the game if they have forgotten/missed/skipped/failed Urban Planning 101 back in their university days.
@jenny1015 (13389)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
I totally agree with you. The government should establish a relocation site with all the basic necessities of the family. The place should be accessible to school, market, church and commercial area. If they would just let these illegal settlers live in a place where even water and electricity is non-existent, what good could it give to these families? The reason why a lot would resort to begging of alms or theft is due to lack of jobs in our country. I hope the government would set aside a budget purely intended for these illegal settlers. I mean, they are form the provinces who came to the city hoping to find luck. But luck doesn't always come knocking on their doors. Who can these families turn to if our own government would remain blind and deaf with this reality?
@romzee (938)
• Philippines
26 Sep 12
Sim city is just a game and will never come close to real situation in building our own city. In all fairness, those informal settlers have no right to complain about. For plain and simple, they are law breakers! They have invaded government and private lands, pay no rent, use them freely for decades, steal electricity and water, and some have the guts to rent space. When government relocate them, they sold their lots, and come back again to squat. Take a look at Dagat-dagatan, a relocation project by former first lady Imelda. Where are the squatters relocated by the government now? These is also true in all relocation sites project by the government. If we want to stop squatting, the government should stop cuddling them.
@berting600 (3458)
• Philippines
25 Sep 12
You have a good planning towards these people,yet it must be with the city planning of the local government.Most of these people are just transferring from one place to another just to seek a place to make their shelter again.They are once given by the president a complete package of cash incentives,a ticket fare for the whole family just to evacuate their shanties back to their respective provinces.So all of them agreed these type of an arrangement before,yet they are still here up to these moment because they did not really go back from where they came from,but just went to another place just to become a squatter to the already densely populated barangay.The government has better plans for them that is why they are relocated to another far away place.There they are already assured of owning the lots where they should be entitled to built their new home.I know you have a good plan for them,yet there was a government plan more useful to all of them that seems toe are more beneficial to all of them as a whole.
@GemmaR (8526)
25 Sep 12
I agree with this, but that is something that companies just don't seem to understand. My Dad's company moved a couple of years ago and it meant that rather than a half hour journey, it took him over two hours to get work every day. This meant that he actually spent a couple of nights in another town rather than coming home every time because it was costing him too much in fuel to do so. But this soon took its toll on him and he quit the job for something that was closer to home, and now he is happier than I have seen him for a long time.