Paul Ryan was booed at the AARP Convention

United States
September 26, 2012 9:40pm CST
I have recently returned home after attending the AARP Convention in New Orleans. I had a wonderful time but something happened that troubles me. President Obama addressed the convention via satellite. Paul Ryan came in person and addressed the convention. Ryan was booed. I did not attend either event as I was going to the films presented by AARP. There is always a mini film festival. I heard that Ryan was booed from other attendees. Some were put out by the booing. Days later, persons in my workplace mentioned it, so it must have made national news. I do not like that Ryan was booed. Even if conventioneers did not like him or his views, I think that he should have been given more respect. I think that it was very rude for AARP to invite Ryan to speak only to have him given such a cold reception. Equally I think that it was very rude of attendees to boo Ryan. I believe that AARP is supposed to be non partisan or even more so, non political.
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@crossbones27 (48417)
• Mojave, California
27 Sep 12
Wry he is not giving the American people respect by taking away the things they need. Its one thing to take things away that you think that are bad for the country, but at least be honest about it. These guys are taking away things so they can profit more off of these people that truly need these things. Its a disgrace and I am glad they booed him
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• United States
27 Sep 12
If you are talking about medicare, I have heard him talk on the subject. I do not believe that he is interested in taking away medicare. I think he wants to improve the system. Medicare needs some improvement. There are a lot of problems with it. I do not believe that booing someone ever solves any problems or issues. Ryan was invited by AARP to speak to the conference. They should have seen to it that he was treated better even if they did not agree with his views.
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• Mojave, California
27 Sep 12
I have to disagree. He really wants to privatize it. That's the Republican plan and that's what it has always been. They want to make money off of people that are not in good health plain and simple. I think the booing lets him know people are not falling for his manipulative ways. Again it has nothing to do with respect because he is not respecting the people he is addressing, so why should they show him respect.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
27 Sep 12
I remember a discussion on mylot about whether or not it was right for Ron Paul to take his Social Security payments. I know that I hear a lot from the left about making the rich pay their fair share. But when someone suggests that when it comes to Medicare, the rich should pay more of their own premium than the government does, all the liberals cry foul. I don't get it. Ryan's plan doesn't change anything for anyone already receiving these services. His plan doesn't affect anyone who is already 55 or older as of 2013. It doesn't even take effect for anyone until 2022. But it will leave Medicare in the black and it will prevent its collapse. Obama's plan and the short term solutions of pumping in money to replace the money that Congress has stolen from the trust fund, will not save Medicare. The entire thing will collapse and be gone. If you are really worried about the future of Medicare for seniors in the future, you will not be in favor of doing nothing and allowing it to collapse. You may not know this, but there are already several private insurers that are servicing Medicare patients by taking the premium directly from their SS and in some cases, charging a small premium above that. These are HMO plans that are very popular and prized by those who choose them - note I said CHOOSE them. And these seniors are very distressed that OBamacare will prevent them from choosing these private HMO plans. Seniors need protection for the future, not a lot of pretty words that mean nothing and in fact, spell doom for Medicare. We need to deal with the real world and fix it before it's gone. There are so many who rely on Medicare, to avoid reforming it just to garner votes is a despicable thing to do.
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• United States
28 Sep 12
I think that is the reason they booed Ryan, the AARP is suppose to be bi partisan . Or someone assumed all seniors are Republicans Wrong!they have every right to boo a person they see as the enemy.
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• United States
28 Sep 12
They were booing maybe because they have already made up there minds.The one thing I do know is that they definitely didn't want to hear him. True If would have just walked away but I like that he was booed.Rude? Yes, but effective. The next time Any candidate books a spot , he/she better know their audience. Just because people are older does not mean they are automatically Anything.
@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
28 Sep 12
So, when it comes to free speech, you're for booing any speech you don't like so as to prevent others from hearing it? Okay, you're happy he was booed because you've made up your mind. Those who wanted to listen perhaps could not, because others tried to drown him out. That's rude. I think it's more courageous and a sign of someone with a real message that he would take it to people who may not listen, but for whom he has a message he thinks they should hear. Only the coward goes only where he expects to be applauded. Still, I believe that if you refuse to hear any opinion but the one you have decided upon, you can never know if your opinion is right.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
28 Sep 12
How will you know your enemy or your friend if you do not listen to their words and understand their meaning? They have every right to boo, but it isn't polite. Worse, it leaves them with no more understanding than they had before they came in. And definitely, with no better manners. But, in this modern world, we have enemies and boogeymen created by the media, the voices that shout and the voices that boo. We have so few people capable of listening and making up their own minds.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
28 Sep 12
I agree it was very rude. This seems to be the rule of thumb these days. Rather than having an adult conversation about issues that directly affect the people attending, they chose to drink the kool aid that the media feeds them.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
28 Sep 12
Wouldn't that be great if that could happen on both sides?
• United States
28 Sep 12
I could not agree with you more. It is ok if attendees did not like Ryan or his policies or views. But give him the courtesy of speaking and then verbally disagree with him in a civil manner.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
27 Sep 12
They booed based on the propaganda they are fed by AARP (which got a big monetary injection for supporting Obamacare, btw - for the organization, not the members). When Ryan started to explain more about reform, the boos got less loud and fewer. I hope they were listening when he explained about the panel of 15 unelected appointees who will decide what gets paid and for whom. I hope they understood that these people are not required to have any medical training. I hope they realize that Obama's Medicare changes will deny them services based on the recommendations of these appointees with no medical background and their decisions will trump the decisions of the patients' physicians. Or, they may remain sheeple.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
27 Sep 12
I listened to some of the speech on television. I think they started to listen when he spoke about the payment panel. However, the audience was probably full of AARP execs and employees and AARP is very political. Their endorsements are designed to benefit the organization and its executives. As for the HMOs, I just read that one HMO in my part of the country is dropping out of Medicare because of the regulations and premium changes and won't be available next year. I don't consider this to be a good thing. Competition is a good thing for the consumer, a monopoly always means higher prices and no options.
• United States
27 Sep 12
When Ryan was first picked as Romney's running mate, everything in me sank because I am on medicare. I had already heard about Ryan and the propaganda was not good. However, I would listen to an interview with him regarding medicare and I felt much better about his views and his plans for medicare. Were you at AARP? If so, did you attend Ryan's appearance? or did you just see it on TV? It sounds like the booing was at its worst in the beginning, when he was introduced, and then subsided as he continued to speak. Correct? Ryan has gotten some very bad press when it comes to medicare. I have not been able to figure out if the bad press is justified or not. Some persons at the convention were very unhappy that AARP has become politicized. They feel that politics has no place in AARP.
@andy77e (5156)
• United States
30 Sep 12
It's a sad fact of American society, that we want free stuff from government. Paul Ryan has a message of adult maturity, namely that we don't have the money for endless government hand outs. It's simply not going to be popular. The children adults, have grown up with the expectation that government should provide stuff for them. Like some sort of peter pan, defiantly saying "I won't grow up!", the people don't want to hear it. They want their free stuff, and if they don't get it, they'll be ticked off. Our society is in the process of self destruction.
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
30 Sep 12
No, it is welfare. The money you get, is money taken out of other peoples checks, and given to you. That's welfare. The money you paid in, was taken from your check, and give to other people. That was welfare for them. It is welfare. What you are saying is exactly what I'm talking about. You keep rationalizing why you should get what you want, just like everyone else is rationalizing that they should get what they want. The problem is... there simply isn't enough money for all you welfare people. I don't care about how much money you paid in. You should have been wiser, and saved your money, instead of giving it to government which blew it all. (as ALL GOVERNMENTS DO!) Government *IS* going to cut back on what they pay you. Get over it. You trusted government, which was a dumb choice, and now you are going to get burned. Government doesn't have unlimited money to pay you people. What part of that don't you get? There is X amount of money, and Y amount of expenses. Y X. Y must be cut, because X is not large enough. If you only have $100, and you have $120 in expenses, what do you do? You cut your spending right? Government is no different. They have to cut expenses, to how much money they have. They can't just pay out to all the welfare people demanding their programs. Have you seen what's going on in Greece? That's the US in the future if we don't cut spending.
• United States
30 Sep 12
There are an awful lot of problems in today's world but then there have always been a lot of problems in every decade and generation. I agree with what you say to some degree. On the other hand, I am a senior who lives in HUD housing for seniors, receives social security and is on medicare. These programs are very important to me. I paid into social security and medicare. So have all the employers that I have worked for. I had no choice. Money was taken out of my paycheck. This is not welfare that I am receiving. Seniors are very worried about the government cutting back on what was promised to them. Many seniors, if not most, can not just get another job to boost their earnings or pay for cuts to medicare. We are on, what is called, a fixed income. I think that the media may have given Ryan a bad rep regarding social security and medicare. That is all the more reason for seniors to have listened to Ryan and not just booed the guy. They needed to have listened, questioned and persuaded.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
29 Sep 12
I think that booing a candidate, no matter how much that you disagree with the person is wrong. I believe that the reason that this happens in many cases is because of the fact that some people are so extreme that they will always vote with one party. For me, there might be a candidate that I don't agree with, but I will never boo them. Instead, I will listen to what they have to say because there is always the chance that I could be swayed one way or the other.
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• United States
29 Sep 12
I am someone who enjoys listening to all viewpoints whether I agree with the person or not. This includes religion as well as politics. I do not feel that I am always right and I am open to other possibilities. I like learning from other people. I believe that we should treat others like how we would like to be treated.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
27 Sep 12
I do not like the AARP. I don't think they're partisan (they lobby for certain things) and I don't like the flavor of their web site offerings, either. Rude seems to be the word of the day any more. People think nothing of being as rude and crude as they can. While I am sorry that Ryan got booed I guess being a politician puts one in a position for that now and then.
@peavey (16936)
• United States
27 Sep 12
Should have been "I don't think they're NON partisan...."
@peavey (16936)
• United States
27 Sep 12
Well, I agree that they shouldn't have done that. It was rude and worse, crude to boo him after inviting him to speak.
• United States
27 Sep 12
I think that Ryan should have been given more respect by AARP and those persons attending the convention. It is ok not to like him or his views but I believe everyone, whoever they are, should be treated with respect.
@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
27 Sep 12
One thing that should be noted about AARP they are in the insurance business and make a lot of money. The other thing is that they lobby for the current retired people and don't care about the next generation. AARP has lobbied for every increase and lobbied against any move to reform SS if it will effect current SS recipients. They are not concerned with saving the system only protecting their current members.
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• United States
28 Sep 12
I know many persons who are real unhappy with AARP. Some would not consider joining and others dropped their memberships. I do not do much with AARP but go to their conventions and those I enjoy greatly. In my opinion, they put on a great convention. In meeting other attendees, most of them are middle class and up. I am probably one of the least affluent persons attending the conventions.
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
27 Sep 12
Those who booed were probably Obama supporters bussed in to try and make Ryan look bad. That kind of thing happens a lot.
• United States
28 Sep 12
I think that AARP members lean towards being Democrats and are leaning towards Obama. I do not think anyone had to bus in Obama supporters to the convention. I think they were already there and in numbers. I think that that may be why Ryan got booed.
• United States
27 Sep 12
While I agree booing him was rude....The reason they did it was because of his proposed changes to social security and other social programs that effect the members of AARP. I am pretty sure he knew going into it that what he had to say was not going to be popular with this group.
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• United States
27 Sep 12
I am a senior who is on medicare so I have a lot of concern about the continuation of the program as well as the improvement of the program. I originally had concerns about Ryan's views about medicare but I listened to an interview with him and felt much better after the interview. I have no memory of who did the interview but it was before I went to the AARP convention. It was during the time of the Republican Convention. I understand the reason that some members of AARP might boo Ryan but I felt that it was rude to do so, nevertheless. I have only heard about the booing since I did not attend his appearance. I do not know what he might have said or did say. He should have first been given the opportunity to address the issue before receiving applause or booing. Maybe you are correct. Maybe Ryan knew what he was getting himself into when he addressed AARP. Maybe he was this as an opportunity to set the record straight.