Another Obama Lie about Planned Parenthood Doing Mammograms

@Fatcat44 (1142)
United States
October 18, 2012 6:25pm CST
Obama during the debate said that Planned Parenthood provides a lot of mammograms for women. Really? Kathleen Sebelius, who in Obama's cabinet says that Planned Parenthood is not licensed to do mammograms. So either planned parenthood is breaking the law, or Obama prep people did not do their home work on the issue, and set Obama up for a lie. So if this is reason to keep Planned Parenthood around, it does not hold water.
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• United States
18 Oct 12
Why would you want to get rid of planned parenthood in the first place? Do you know how many babies they've prevented by passing out contraceptives to teens?
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• United States
18 Oct 12
The schools do that now. So that part of their job has been outsourced at least for teens. Schools are also offering BC pills and Plan B. Teens typically don't get mammograms either. It is really the Government paying twice for the same thing.
• United States
19 Oct 12
Really? The schools I know of don't do that, mainly because the parents would throw a fit if they did.
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• United States
19 Oct 12
Even if the schools do pass this stuff out, planned parenthood still helps. You can't cut programs like this thinking your gonna save money. Think of all the unplanned pregnancies that could happen. The money your saving is going to go to health care cost, and welfare.
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@sierras236 (2740)
• United States
19 Oct 12
There are only about 800 clinics in total across the US. Only 20% of their clients are actually Teens. But they have over "6,000,000 activists, supporters, and donors." So why exactly do they need Federal Government Money? Source material provided by Planned Parenthood. http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_by_the_Numbers.pdf
• United States
19 Oct 12
Because not all of those people actually donate money ...? And considering that the same sheet says they serve about 5,000,000 a year, that would kind of require a lot more money than just donations.
• United States
19 Oct 12
Let's run the numbers. If each supporter contributed around $172, then they would meet the operating budget for the year. So again, you really can't justify why they actually need Government money.
• United States
19 Oct 12
That's assuming each support has that amount to give. Not every supporter can give money. Not every supporter who donates has that amount. Also of note, the organization only receives a third of its money from the government grants and contracts.
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• United States
19 Oct 12
There is no reason to keep around a government agency that kills unborn babies, Planned Parenthood is just what its name implies, planning your parental duties. What ever happened to letting God plan your life? I know that people are going to make their own choices and they will have to live with those but why are we funding an agency that would rather kill a baby then give it up for adoption.
• United States
19 Oct 12
Except for the preventing fertilization part, the other two methods are terminating life. Our founding fathers stated "Life" as one of the Rights of Americans. As far as contraceptives go, according to Obama's mandate, BC pills are already covered by insurance. In essence, they are "free" anyway. So there is no need to pay PP for handing out "free" BC pills because insurance is covering that cost. Condemns are now available in schools. Contraceptives are already affordable (well if you discount the fact you have to pay insurance premiums). So actually, President Obama himself rendered Government funding to PP unnecessary.
• United States
19 Oct 12
Same is true of BC pills. But since Dr. visits are covered under insurance, than that also makes their offer to screen also covered under insurance. So they are still getting the double jackpot from the Government. Only now, they don't the grants because insurance already takes over the whole payment issue. I am not sure how you can get more affordable than free on contraceptive? Since the parents are footing the insurance coverage for kids whether they can personally afford it or not. BC is also useless if you don't follow the rules. I am still curious as why you don't think that terminating a pregnancy isn't murder since the Courts have determined that it is. It is stopping the potential for life.
@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
19 Oct 12
Gitfiddle - not only does PP provide health services to women but they also provide BIRTH CONTROL - which PREVENTS pregnancy. If there's something wrong, they can provide help, other medical care, tests, prescriptions and counseling. I still don't understand why so many people seem to believe all Planned Parenthood does is force abortions upon people. That has never been my experience. EVER. By the way, birth control is a wise choice for many people, including young singles, people who are married but do not want children yet, and couples with a child or children already who do not want more at the moment. I find it EXTREMELY irresponsible for people who pop out kids when they can't even take care of themselves and then they get on government assistance because they qualify because well... they have kids. This is just plain wrong and not fair to the kids either. As far as I am concerned, I don't think any decent provider - notice I said decent - exclusively encourages any one OPTION over others. They are all supposed to inform every patient or consumer of every option they have and then step back and allow the patient or consumer to decide for themselves, and then at that point it is their job to comply with the patient or consumer's wishes. It is not my fault if the patient or consumer doesn't want to look at any other option and I believe that whatever the patient wants should always be followed. As such, it is none of our business what other people decide or choose, the only time it is our business is if the patient is US. The argument about bcp, sierras - is this - SOME employers do not include contraceptive coverage in any of the ins plans they offer employees. I do not believe this is fair, because the reasons stem from the religious beliefs of the employers. This is like telling someone that in order to have comprehensive medical coverage options provided by their job, they in turn have to believe the same way religiously as their employer, who does not believe in the use of birth control. I find this discriminatory because nobody should HAVE to share the same beliefs as anybody, even if you WORK for them. They cite cost as a reason, aside from the religious thing, but that's hogwash too. Having a plan that includes contraceptives as a covered option are hardly more expensive than a plan that doesn't, and there's no way to know if an employee is using that particular coverage either, and if they were digging around that would be a violation of privacy laws.
@laglen (19779)
• United States
20 Oct 12
Why are you always trying to bring out the facts? Planned parenthood does not really offer anything of substance. Is it just me that every county I have ever lived in offers a health department. Run by the county paid for with county tax dollars. They offer pregnancy testing, birth control, even gynecological exams. for free based on your income. I have lived in four different counties, they all have this service available to any and all residents of the county. They offer everything planned parenthood does and more. Another point, if our federal government is going to fund planned parenthood, how about funding the Pregnancy Resource Center? They offer pregnancy tests and adoption counseling. They even offer counseling for women that chose abortion previously but need help now. How about tax money going there? They do not, this organization does it's own fundraising. And are doing pretty well. Maybe because they offer a worthwhile and humane service. oh yeah, and they are pro-life. There ya go, I answered my own question!
@Fatcat44 (1142)
• United States
20 Oct 12
What I have seen Pregnancy Resource probably do not want the government involved in their business. The last thing you want is the government involved because their money has stings attached and they start running the business. I am glad there is an independent org like that.
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@laglen (19779)
• United States
20 Oct 12
I agree, my point was it is such a much more worthwhile program.... I help with their baby bottle campaign every year. I have my daughter help too. I have always told her that if she finds herself in trouble and does not feel right coming to me, she should go there. I have told her the evils of planned parenthood for years. In that I mean that there are much better options.
@laglen (19779)
• United States
23 Oct 12
Mommy, I agree, it is your body your choice. But shouldnt tax payers have some say in where there money is being spent? I know the PP here does not offer anything close to pregnancy care. They also do not perform abortions, they simply handle birth control and referrals. These services are offered at the county health department. Both offices are about 2 miles apart. This makes it a redundant service.
@mariaperalta (19094)
• Mexico
19 Oct 12
Planned parenthood is here in Mexico and if we didnt have it- there would be so many more problems here. Im sure the usa or any other country would have the same problems without it.
@stary1 (6622)
• United States
19 Oct 12
mariaperalta The problem with Planned Parenthood in my view is they actually encourage abortion. I would be all for reorganizing and being very careful on the abortion guidelines. Then perhaps they could actually offer mamograms instead of just handing out referrals.
• United States
23 Oct 12
All of the Planned Parenthood clinics I've been to have far from encouraged abortion - I've gone with friends who've been pregnant, with my sister who was pregnant, and every time they've been encouraged to keep the child, being given a range of support and care options should they choose to.
@stary1 (6622)
• United States
19 Oct 12
Fatcat44 I noticed that too..it's part of Obama team scare tactics. Unfortunately many people do not keep up with the facts and that in my opinion is why Obama has such a following. Planned Parenthood needs to be either shut down or reorganized. They need to stop encouraging abortions. I think in some areas they perform a useful and necessary role but I think it could be done so much more efficiently and effectively.
@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
19 Oct 12
They do not 'encourage' abortions.... I think that families 'encourage' a lot of things that young women who get pregnant have no interest in. Too many young women are forced to get an abortion, forced to keep a baby, or forced to give up a baby, and honestly the only person who has the right to make such a decision is the pregnant person, perhaps with some input from someone they trust, the baby's father if they continue a relationship OR another person as long as the other person is giving them the final say. It makes me sick to see how often girls get disowned, kicked out, or treated badly until they do what their parents or other guardians or family thinks they should! It would not bother me if PP was not licensed to perform abortions except in emergencies, but I believe it is false to say they encourage them. We need other places that provide low cost and/or free healthcare to people, we are failing the majority of our citizens because to most people, health care is a luxury they cannot afford, even for preventive care.
@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
19 Oct 12
Planned Parenthood is ONE place that offers free or very reduced cost care to women, which is important when a lot of women have no insurance or are low income. I stand behind ANY corporation which will provide a free or sliding cost service because there are SO FEW OF THEM. I don't know if they actually perform mammograms or not, since I am not at an age where I would use that feature, but I can tell you I have used PP before and I received excellent service at a reasonable cost. I also want to make clear that I have not used PP in years BUT that doesn't change the fact that I feel it does provide a very important service and there is a need for it to exist. If anybody is going around trying to get rid of Planned Parenthood, I believe THEY should replace it with something else that provides the same service for the same section of the population - OR simply leave it alone. If you can't tell, I don't particularly like ANY person who goes around trying to remove something or take away choices from people. I don't care if THAT person doesn't like it or doesn't need it. OTHER PEOPLE DO.
@matersfish (6311)
• United States
19 Oct 12
The mission statement of Planned Parenthood gives you a warm, fuzzy feeling. They make you believe they're actually helping. The actions of Planned Parenthood make it appear like an underground crime syndicate. I don't mind taxpayer money going to places like this. There are worse places it can go. I just want more accountability. I'm tired of the issue being demagogued both ways. Supporters claim it's all sunshine and roses and that it's needed. Proponents claim it's not needed at all and that they should gain their money privately. I want compromise on the issue. I just want teen rape reported and parents informed when their daughters go in for sneaky abortions and for the entire political class to stop using it as a selling point for ideology. I'm sure PP could exist wholly on private money. Many religious clinics are open around the nation, relying solely on donations. So I don't want to hear that they NEED public funding. As long as they are receiving it, let's have some accountability.