Texas tells UN poll observers to stay out of Texas...

@stary1 (6622)
United States
October 26, 2012 12:40am CST
A classic "don't mess with Texas' LOL even threatening to prosecute them if they come to Texas. The monitors shot back..the US has an obligation to allow monitors of elections. THis doesn't sit well with me at all. I don't know why GW encouraged this sort of thing. The UN monitors have no authority and no one listens to them and no one will even read their reports is my guess.
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@p1kef1sh (45640)
26 Oct 12
What is scandalous is the notion that the UN need to have monitors at a US election. Their presence suggests corruption and incompetence on behalf of the authorities. Of course in Texas, where the Democrats are largely wasting their time anyway, the result is known already. But remember the recounts at Bush's first term when Florida was a bit suspect? It can happen.
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@Rollo1 (16685)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 Oct 12
Do you even know which countries these monitors represent? One is Germany where they have strict voter ID laws. You can't vote if you don't have your government-issued voter card and ID with you. Another is Belarus where they just held a disputed election a couple of weeks ago. The election results are disputed because there were more votes cast than there are voters. Come on. It's like putting the human rights violators on the UN Human Rights Council (China, Saudi Arabia, etc). The UN is an organization that is highly biased against the US and they are sending crooks and liars to see if we are straight?
@p1kef1sh (45640)
26 Oct 12
I have no idea what you are getting agitated about. I am saying that I find the idea absurd BUT no nation, including yours, is without its corrupt elements.
@stary1 (6622)
• United States
26 Oct 12
p1kef1sh ..There has been voter fraud and intimidation...but the UN is the LAST place that should be monitoring our elections. It's the hypocrisy of who is monitoring.
• United States
26 Oct 12
I don't even understand why this is such a big deal to me. Explain to me what part in the voting process will be affected by a few UN people showing up to watch what goes on at some of the polling places. Seriously making a big deal out of nothing. Guess what whether they UN sends people, the US hires its own people, or no one shows up to monitor voting. The results are going to be the same. The losing side is going to accuse the winning side of voter fraud. It seems to be the thing to do. As a matter of fact if Romney wins, I'll need to see his birth certificate, his college transcripts, and his last tax return.
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@Rollo1 (16685)
• Boston, Massachusetts
27 Oct 12
"As a matter of fact if Romney wins, I'll need to see his birth certificate, his college transcripts, and his last tax return." The biggest difference between Obama and Romney is that Romney can and will show those things to you. He's already shown his tax return.
@stary1 (6622)
• United States
27 Oct 12
knoodleknight18 It isn't a matter of UN monitors being disruptive..it's more a matter of it's not necessary and the UN has no business in our voting process.
• United States
29 Oct 12
My point exactly, it isn't disruptive. That's about the best I hope for out of politics any more. When has doing something unnecessary that isn't their business to do ever been a concern of government? If the UN being there doesn't change the outcome, then why get upset over it? It's like blaming a storm in London for the outcome of a baseball game in Los Angeles.
• United States
26 Oct 12
According the UN they are going to states with voter ID laws to see how this law is effecting voting. Here in Ohio I have had to show my ID for years, and this is why I don't think it will effect many. But, this just like the second amendment, once you start to limit a RIGHT, where does it end? Many on the right have said that certain people shouldn't be able to vote (people who rent, but vote on property taxes). As EVERY second amendment supporter will tell you (like their last name): It is a slippery slope.
@stary1 (6622)
• United States
26 Oct 12
thegreatdebater.. I have never heard of anyone objecting to renters voting just because they rent and do not pay property taxes...can you tell me where and when that occurred? TY
• United States
27 Oct 12
Stary, Here is a quote from Judson Phillips president of Tea Party Nation: "The Founding Fathers originally said, they put certain restrictions on who gets the right to vote. It wasn't you were just a citizen and you got to vote. Some of the restrictions, you know, you obviously would not think about today. But one of those was you had to be a property owner. And that makes a lot of sense, because if you're a property owner you actually have a vested stake in the community. If you're not a property owner, you know, I'm sorry but property owners have a little bit more of a vested interest in the community than non-property owners." By the way, the founding fathers also didn't allow women to vote, or black people. Sound like a good idea to you? Rush Limbaugh also said that the poor shouldn't be allowed to vote either: “This story raises a very unpolitically correct question. If people can’t even feed and clothe themselves should they be allowed to vote? Should they be voting? If people who are receiving government assistance, that is taxpayer assistance, if they weren’t allowed to vote can you imagine the political difference in this country? Can you imagine? It’s just a think piece, putting it out there for you to ponder?” http://www.politicususa.com/limbaugh-poor-vote.html
@Rollo1 (16685)
• Boston, Massachusetts
27 Oct 12
Yeah, let's go back a couple of hundred years to find a way for you to make your point Debater. Taxation without representation. It was what they fought against back then. Now, it's happening every day.
@Rollo1 (16685)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 Oct 12
They have no legal right to be within 100 feet of polling places, and so I support the states that are threatening to arrest them if they do try to interfere. The monitors are a joke. They come from countries with voter ID laws and corrupt election processes. This is just another tool of the Obama campaign to desperately try to sway the election towards Obama. It's just one of many tools and plots and schemes. I want the US to give the UN its marching orders and evacuate the entire, stinking, communist organization from our country. If they want to hate us, let them do it from a greater distance.
• United States
26 Oct 12
"This is just another tool of the Obama campaign to desperately try to sway the election towards Obama. It's just one of many tools and plots and schemes." What FACTS do you have that could possible justify this comment? How could these people effect the election?
@stary1 (6622)
• United States
26 Oct 12
Rollo1 I agree with you...and while they have no real power, they are another tool used for proapaganda..we should 'kick the UN out of the US'
@Rollo1 (16685)
• Boston, Massachusetts
26 Oct 12
Please look at who requested that they monitor, Debater. Liberal groups telling tales of boogeymen in Tea Party clothing coming to keep the poor, the minorities and anyone voting from Obama, away from the polls, that's who. That's how we know it's a tool of the Obama campaign. It's his people who asked for the monitors, expressing such fear that conservatives will suppress the vote by asking for things like ID. Course, in Germany, where one of the monitors is from, you can't vote without your government issued Voter ID card... ah well. It could aaaaa-ffect the election if these monitors interfere at the polling places. Excuse my sudden William F Buckley Jr accent.
@bostonphil (4403)
• United States
26 Oct 12
I live in Austin and I have not yet heard this story. There are always problems with elections, not just in Texas, but I think that the U.S. can take care of its own monitoring. I do not see why the U.N. needs to be involved. Who or what is GW that you mention in your post?
@stary1 (6622)
• United States
26 Oct 12
bostonphil I often refer to Pres G W Bush as GW....
• United States
26 Oct 12
The UN needs to back off. They have NO authority in this country. I really wish we would just pull out of the UN and be done with it. We have ZERO obligation to let them to become involved in our election process.. I hope Texas does arrest them if they do show up.
@stary1 (6622)
• United States
26 Oct 12
lilwonders456 They were invited unfortunately..and while they have no power or authority they clearly are ticking off quite a few..