Who started the SIN, Adam or Eve?

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@Shavkat (137215)
Philippines
November 12, 2012 10:14pm CST
In the bible context, it was described that how is sin started. Some people have different perceptions on this, claiming that Eve was the first who commit the sin. She persuaded Adam to eat the forbidden fruit, out of his love for her. Do you agree or disagree?
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@chrystalia (1208)
• Tucson, Arizona
13 Nov 12
Well, as the story goes, the serpent convinced Eve, who was curious anyway, that eating the apple was a good idea. Then she ate the apple-- and talked Adam into it. Therefore, she should be considered at fault for both her curiosity, and for talking Adam into breaking the rules as well. However-- Before the apple, both Adam and Eve were innocent, completely. If they had just sat around in the garden and played house, being innocent, there would have been no Cain, no Abel, no Seth, and no other people. Plus, unless we were shown the difference between right and wrong, we would not have the opportunity to CHOOSE either right or wrong. Since God is all-seeing, it stands to reason he KNEW Eve would sin, and bring Adam to sin, before hand. Why else would he have planted the tree there in the first place and told them about it? Would YOU put something in the playpen with your two year old that you didn't want them to have, or was bad for them, and then tell them "no, no"? Doing that would be very foolish, and one would think that God would know better. A lot of evil has come into the world since Adam and Eve left the garden, but a lot of good has come as well, and man has grown-- and anyone who has ever raised a kid knows they don't grow well if you keep them locked up somewhere, and never let them learn anything for themselves.
@allknowing (130066)
• India
13 Nov 12
There must have been countless fruit trees in the garden and God merely points out to one, raising the curiosity no end. Who would not succumb to it? I would!. I tend to agree with you when you say that God did it on purpose! The God of my understanding does worse things just so that we remember Him and bring Him into our life and that explains all the tragedies and adversities one faces,ofcourse with God's knowledge!
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
This is an overwhelming responses from you guys. In the bible, the serpent was really the culprit for letting the two souls commit a sin.
@zeedo666 (150)
• Poland
13 Nov 12
The Bible's Genesis is several thousand year old. People from that times were, how to say, more stupid than we now. They liked seing women as the root of all bad things in their lives, as worse etc. because it let them make women their submissive slaves. It's so lovely comfortable and egoistic, isn't it? So only thing they had to do was to invent a likely story to justify their nasty point of view. Voila! We have Genesis. Now you can wonder how much of the real God's intentions was included to the story and how much of it was just human imagination. There are much more such discrepancies in the Bible, which obviosly show the influence of these people's mentality on the book's content. Especially when it comes to sexuality and killing "pagans" (which should be God's itself idea) to, at the end, miracously completely change the character of God and let it start loving even these foul infidels
• United States
13 Nov 12
Eve didn't one day just decide to grab one of those apples from the forbidden tree and take a bite. She was tricked into it by the serpent...the devil. I would say the devil started it but Eve is forced to take the blame since she shared it with Adam.
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@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Nov 12
Cooking: Eve has to take blame for allowing herself to be "tricked". It matters not that she was duped. It matters that she disobeyed a direct command from God.
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• United States
13 Nov 12
I know and understand that. But I doubt that she would have even thought about that tree if not for the serpent.
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Nov 12
Cooking: You could be right. I think however that since God had told them about it, it is possible that they would have wondered about it without the serpent's encouragement. I think eventually, the choice to obey God or eat the fruit would have had to be made.
@marguicha (215410)
• Chile
31 Dec 12
Both Adam and Eve wanted a kind of knowledge and conciousness that they did not have as part of nature. So they both wanted to have the ability, the intelligence, to acquire it. The bite of the apple from the Tree of Knowledge is just a metaphore. That`s why they were thrown away from Paradise (nature) and placed on the other side of the table. It`s a pity that they (we) acquired the ability ti get knowledge, but not the wisdom to use it. We would not have violence or wars if we did.
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@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
Well, it must be Eve, coz she was the one who lured Adam into taking the fruit from the "Tree of Knowledge", when they were clearly told not to.
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@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
In spite of the only rules given by God, still Eve persuaded Adam to eat the forbidden fruit.
@asliah (11137)
• Philippines
5 Dec 12
hi, a very long discussion until now because in the Rizal Park there are still elders who still debating about this,and for me i think eve who started the sin,because she was the one who picked the apple and gave it to Adam,though Adam had also sin because he ate it though he knows it was a forbidden fruit.
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@prashu228 (37526)
• India
13 Nov 12
As per the Bible Eve is blamed for all, and so all follow that. But my personal opinion both should be blamed, because Adam would have warned her and change her mind, he can stop her and himself from that, but he didn't do that.
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@prashu228 (37526)
• India
13 Nov 12
No offense , nothing against Bible ,its just an opinion.
• United States
13 Nov 12
Both are to be to blamed because the serpent was involved. Eve ate the apple because she was tempted by the serpent. Adam was to weak, because he loved Eve so much. However, because of the consequences, Eve and all women suffer when giving birth.
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
I do think that Adam was so weak to refuse, is it out for love to Eve? Thanks for sharing
@rsa101 (37952)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
I really have no direct answer to this. What the Bible says is what the Bible says I guess. There is really no argument about that and the way the Bible describes is that Eve was lured by the snake(devil) to eat it and asked Adam to join her which Adam also complied to. So it looks like the story is really blaming Eve for trying to convince Adam to take eat it.
@rsa101 (37952)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
If the question in here was who started it all. Then the simple answer was eve. She was the one lured by the snak to take it and offer it to adam which eventually gave in. No one stand on their ground and follow what God has ordered them to do. As far as I recall, Adam even warned Eve of not taking it but then she took it and lured Adam to partake of it which he eventually gave in because of that.
@monkmano (585)
• Canada
13 Nov 12
i think that both adam and eve received the blame for eating the fruit, that adam had a choice in eating it after eve did so they are equally to blame first second a sin occured. so dont blame eve for tempting him it all seems to come down on eve i mean
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
So Adam is the one who feel weak when tempted to eat the forbidden fruit. Thanks
@ifa225 (14364)
• Indonesia
13 Nov 12
not both of them Devil is the one who started If devil does not persuade both of them I believe they stay happily ever after in heaven
@ifa225 (14364)
• Indonesia
13 Nov 12
no..God does not curse human for that but he punished Adam and Eve out of the heaven and live in this world while for the Devil God curse him forever, even if the world had stopped turning
@prashu228 (37526)
• India
13 Nov 12
I agree with you too, this is from other side of the point. But God didn't forgive us. He cursed all the mankind for that. Which i really don't like.
@ifa225 (14364)
• Indonesia
13 Nov 12
deedee do you believe in heaven? maybe that is a matter of believing I believe they were in heaven since they can get all of they need easily and almost without efforts while in this world, you have to work hard just to get foods
@marguicha (215410)
• Chile
13 Nov 12
In my opinion, Adan and Eve are symbols, just as it`s a sybol that God created the world in 7 days. Sin as I see it is a consequence of our being concious of what we do, That`s why allianated people are not guilty of their wrongdoins. They don`t know the difference between right and wrong.
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
During that time, being curios of what is right or wrong was not known until they had the sin for the first time. Thanks
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
13 Nov 12
Adam was Eve's guardian, her protector, her boss. So it's like when you're a kid and you steal something from the candy-store and your parents have to pay for it. You can say it's on account of 'they haven't taught you not to steal yet'; so you can say Eve took the fruit because Adam hadn't taught her to obey yet.
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
15 Nov 12
mythociate: Really? That is the best you can come up with?
@coldnpale (555)
• Greece
16 Nov 12
I believe the devil started the SIN actually. He persuaded Eve that she should eat the forbidden fruit. Then she, on her turn, persuaded Adam that he should eat it as well. So both Adam and Eve did exactly the same thing. They were both persuaded to do something they shouldn't. So they both sinned the same way. Lucifer as a snake started everything, knowing that humans are vulnerable.
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@Pegasus72 (1898)
13 Nov 12
I guess it just depends on how you see it. They both sinned because they didn't listen to God. Adam didn't protect his wife from the devil who persueded her to eat of the forbidden fruit, and Eve was left wide open to then pass on that sin to her husband.
@Pegasus72 (1898)
13 Nov 12
I just think he didn't realize his wife was so vulnerable, they had never known a lie until this time, and they had no fear so he didn't know to protect his wife. Even today with equal rights for women, men sometimes forget women still need protecting, and guidance.
• Greece
13 Nov 12
Someone once said to me 'and where was Adam when his wife was left alone to wander around in the garden!'
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
It showed the weakness of Adam. Thanks
• Greece
13 Nov 12
Adam blamed Eve and Eve blamed the devil and God punished all three! The thing that srikes me when I read the story is that neither of them knew they were naked until Adam also ate the forbidden fruit. So I conclude that both were responsible. As for the devil he was doing his usual thing of trying to make humans doubt God. 'Did God really say' etc. Jesus faced the same temptation of doubting but thankfully the second Adam did not sin.
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
Nice statement. Thanks for sharing.
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
The temptation was done by the devil. Sin was done by both Adam and Eve. It is not Eve alone. Adam got the choice of eating the forbidden fruit or not. God forbid them to eat the fruit of that tree. Even if Eve told him to eat the fruit, he won't eat it if he wanted to obey God..and not the woman. There was this joke before: God: Adam, Why did you eat the fruit? Adam:The woman you made told me to eat it. Eve: The serpent tricked me. Serpent: I live in this tree, I'm just doing my part. Forbidden Tree: I didn't plant myself here, you, God, You made me. Should God be blamed? It was written as a joke, but if you think it over, it serves a lesson. God permitted temptation, but it's Adam and Eve's choice to eat the forbidden fruit. They have different minds to obey God or not.
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
Logically, why do God needs to have the forbidden tree in the paradise of Eden. Could it be the test for Adam and Eve? Thanks for sharing
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
I believe that the sin was due to the fact that we humans were deceived. Eve was the first one to be deceived, and yes she took a bite of the apple, and yet... the sin did not stop there and then even adam was pursuaded by eve (by the snake's pushing her to do so as well) to take a bite of the same apple. What confused me with this story though was the fact that whilst we know that God is all knowing, how come he was not there to see and stop this from happening? :D
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
That's an interesting answer, both of them should not be deceived by the serpent. Thanks
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
18 Dec 12
Eve gets the blame for sinning first, but she was deceived and Adam was not, so I say they both get the blame. Eve is to blame for being deceived and not listening to Adam, and Adam is to blame for partaking even when he knew it was wrong. He was not deceived. When I think of this I always wonder why didn't Adam stop her? Was he secretly lusting after the fruit and used her ignorance as an excuse to partake? We don't know, but we know Adam was quick to blame Eve when his sin was found out. See I Timothy 2:14 and Genesis 3:12.
@mayka123 (16584)
• India
13 Nov 12
The serpent tricked Eve and she got tempted to eat the forbidden fruit. She offered it to Adam and he accepted it. So who is to be blamed? Eve for getting tricked or Adam for listening to her?
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
The deception from the serpent really overpowered Adam and Eve. Thanks
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@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
13 Nov 12
Shavkat: I believe that each of them should bare the responsibility for their own actions. God told both Adam and Eve not to take from the tree. Both were disobedient. Eve should not allowed herself to be swayed by the serpent and Adam should have also exercised his free will and refused Eve's offer to eat the fruit. I don't believe Adam disobeyed God out of love for Eve.
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
Thanks for sharing. I do think that all of them should be punished for disobeying God's rule, not to eat the forbidden fruit.
@rubyroy (824)
• India
13 Nov 12
Nobody committed sin first.Sin was there.And when human beings gave an entry in to their life,it followed them through generation.We needn't blame the male or the female, it can use any situation to defeat and overcome us.So let us learn to overcome it,rather than find the person who caused the sin.
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
In my opinion, sin was not materialize and long after Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit.
13 Nov 12
Well, your question is a choice between Adam or Eve. So that my answer is Eve. Eve started the sin in the garden. Adam follows. However, both are responsible for their actions.
@Shavkat (137215)
• Philippines
13 Nov 12
Exactly, they should take the responsibility for committing the sin.