The Quran PROVES that Allah Is Not the Almighty! Whatcha Think about That?

@mythociate (13822)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
November 28, 2012 8:57am CST
In 6.136, the Quran says, "And they set apart a portion for Allah out of what He has created of tilth and cattle, and say: This is for Allah-- so they assert-- and this for our associates; then what is for their associates, it reaches not to Allah, and whatever is (set apart) for Allah, it reaches to their associates; evil is that which they judge." This 'Allah'-character---he can't take anything without your permission, and then can't take what you DO give him unless it's EVERYTHING! What's up with that?
6 responses
@Adoniah (7523)
• United States
30 Nov 12
allah was not even known at the creation of the earth or man. allah is the ancient moon god of the arabs. He is not the creator. He was the god of choice for mohamed however...The Jews were the first people to believe that there was such a thing as monotheism and that He was the Creator. mohamed rejected the Creator in favor of allah a god already known to arabs.
@Naseem00 (1998)
• Pakistan
30 Nov 12
Hence, not being a Jew Adam was not a monotheist.!!!
@samar54 (2456)
• Egypt
30 Nov 12
Adoniah ? please, don't repeat what you hear without be sure of it, you can read hear : http://www.ijfm.org/PDFs_IJFM/23_2_PDFs/Brown_WhoIsAllah.pdf Allah in Arabuc mean God in English , Aloh in Jewish ( you can see that it very close)
@samar54 (2456)
• Egypt
30 Nov 12
correction : Allah in Arabic .
@Naseem00 (1998)
• Pakistan
28 Nov 12
You are MISUNDERSTANDING the verse. It speaks about the practice and believes of the unbelievers what they used to believe. They used to believe their idols are associates of Allah and whenever they used to sacrifice they used to divide it a portion for Allah and a portion for the associates. Then they used to say Allah is independent so He does not need their sacrifices and what portion was meant for Allah would be added to that which was meant for the associates.
@mythociate (13822)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
28 Nov 12
But people created Allah as much as they created the idols, so what difference does it make?
@Naseem00 (1998)
• Pakistan
28 Nov 12
People did not create Allah. When Adam was sent down from Paradise, he came with the knowledge that Allah is the God. Hence the concept that Allah is the God is as old as mankind is. As time passed, people started associating others with Allah and that is where the need to send prophets to guide them arose.
• Tucson, Arizona
29 Nov 12
On this one, I agree with Naseem-- Adam had been created, and knew his creator, personally, the Creator used to show up and walk and talk with him--whether you read Bible or Qur'an, call him G-d or Allah. Then, time goes by, and people don't walk and talk with the Creator anymore,so they lost faith and they built idols, and dedicated them to other "Gods"--who by extrapolation, would be "associates" of the Creator. Man "created" those other "Gods"--not the Creator Himself. Now comes this situation: you had a good crop. You had been "praying to" and "sacrificing to" some stone object or other, by a given name, and things worked out well. On one hand, you know there is a Creator--but you haven't met him, and he doesn't have idols hanging around. But you DO have idols, and they're right there, and you talked to them, and things went well. Who do you give the reward to--the invisible Creator you have no control over, who comes and goes as He pleases, or the idol sitting in the field, that YOU created, and listens to YOU? They chose to give their "reward"--the offerings, to what they could see and touch-- and so they got rebuked, they did wrong. They weren't being faithful, if you will--faith is belief a thing exists, without proof that it does. In creating an "idol", you are showing lack of faith to begin with-- you are showing you can only "believe" in what you can see and touch. By offering to this idol, you are showing a further lack of faith, and have done "evil".
@samar54 (2456)
• Egypt
28 Nov 12
[6.136] They made for Allah a share of what He has created of tilth and cattle saying: 'This is for Allah so they claim and this for our associates (gods). ' The share of their associates never reaches Allah, but the share of Allah reaches their associates. How evil they judge! " This vilified and rebuke from God to the heathens who invented innovations and disbelief and shirk, and made to God a part of his creation, which is the creator of everything Almighty what associates; For this he says: (They set aside for Allah a share of what He has created ), namely: creating (tillage), namely: of crops and fruits (and cattle share): part and part, (they said this to God as they claim this to our partners.) And he said: (What was their partners not up to God and what God had it up to their partners) interpretation of this verse: The enemies of God were if plowed ????, or had their fruit, made to God it is part and idol part, what was the plow or fruit or something the share of idols kept it and Ahsou. If something has landed him in the so-called God bunker to what made him the idol. The predecessors of water that made him the idol. Is feeling something made him God; made this idol. interpretation of this verse: The enemies of God were if plowed plowing , or had their fruit, made to God His part and idol part, what was the plow or fruit or something the share of idols kept it to idols . If something has landed in the so-called to God , to what made to the idol , kept it to idols . The predecessors of water that made to the idol. Is landed in something made to God; kept it to this idol. , and they were deprived of their money lake and bulk ??????? and welding, and they take that to the idols, and they claim Ihrmonh God, Almighty God said (and made to God than the tops of plowing and cattle share) verse. Everything slaughter being slaughtered to God, they never eat even remind of the names of gods. What was to the gods did not mention the name of God is with it, and (worsened what rule): the worse of the divide, they sinned first in the division, the Almighty God is the Lord of everything and Sovereign and his Creator, has the kingdom , and everything has at his disposal and under ability and his will, no other god, nor Lord besides Him. Then, when they divided as they claimed , they did not keep the division that are corrupt , but Harmdoers
@samar54 (2456)
• Egypt
28 Nov 12
"and they were deprived of their money lake and bulk ??????? and welding, and they take that to the idols," this words I can't translate the meaning exactly , so don't care with it , make it as its not here, I thought that I deleted it
@mythociate (13822)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
28 Nov 12
Your 'score' is "666" now It takes time to erase it; you've got to 'report' it & wait. But it's cool enough to leave up; shows that myLot is a good place to vent your thoughts (even if they DO start to look like babble)
@samar54 (2456)
• Egypt
28 Nov 12
Waht I wrote not babble. Please respect the others and their beliefs
@Gordano (791)
• United States
3 Dec 12
The verse is talking about some kind of people, used to make portion for Allah (for charity) and a portion for their associates (for their Idols and relatives) when they start spending from the part that was meant to their Idols till it finish they used to take from the part that was meant to Allah (from Charity) and give to their Idols saying that Allah is independent. but if they started spending from the portion that was meant for Allah till it finish and more is required they don't take anything from the portion that was meant for their associates like what they did in the first situation. so, All it proves is that such people are hypocrites, the verse has nothing to do with the Almightiness of Allah. you people used to read in the Bible that Jacob wrestled with God and Jacob prevailed and didn't let him go till he bless him!! then you come here to say that the Qura'n "proves" that Allah Is Not the Almighty?? when a bandit take your money without your permission does that make the bandit almighty? I'm sorry but your logic is flawed.
@mythociate (13822)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
3 Dec 12
If G*d wants my money, he has already taken it. If he does not take it, he obviously wants me to use it best for me! Since Allah cannot have it until I decide to give it, he must not be G*d.
@urbandekay (18314)
28 Nov 12
I don't read the verse that way all the best, urban
@mythociate (13822)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
28 Nov 12
What does it say to you?
@robspeakman (1707)
28 Nov 12
Are we playing MY RELIGIONS BETTER THAN YOUR RELIGION!! Classic childish behaviour of the Zealots
@urbandekay (18314)
1 Dec 12
Why do you try and reduce a discussion to that? Smacks of insecurity to me. See anyone can play the psycho-babel game all the best, urban