Do Unions Need To Pay Their Share Of Taxes

@Fatcat44 (1142)
United States
December 7, 2012 9:54am CST
I found out today that the AFL-CIO is classified as a non-profit organization and does not pay any taxes. The California Teachers Association Union is also a non-profit. They both rake in millions of dollars in dues, but the pay no taxes. So why aren't the guys paying their fair share? What is good for the goose is good for the gander.
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@peavey (15874)
• United States
7 Dec 12
Non profit, my foot! I think I knew that but had forgotten. We need to make that a point of contention because I doubt many others realize it. I have heard rumors that churches will soon be taxed, so why not unions first? Obama is all about taxing the rich (so he says) and unions are rich.
@Fatcat44 (1142)
• United States
7 Dec 12
And I forgot to mention, non-charitable organizations are supposed to be political neutral, or they can lose their non-charitable status.
@peavey (15874)
• United States
7 Dec 12
That's true. If that were enforced, there would be no "not for profit" unions left.
• United States
7 Dec 12
Interesting point there fatcat, churches are definitely not political neutral but in fairness I don't think they should be taxed within reason. However, I think the money made by employees of the church should be taxes.
@trruk1 (1031)
• United States
8 Dec 12
They are indeed non-profit organizations. They have filed all the paperwork to satisfy the IRS. If you are unhappy with that, you are welcome to petition Congress to change the law and make non-profit organizations pay taxes. Of course, that means churches will then have to pay taxes. And the Red Cross. Good luck getting that passed.
@Fatcat44 (1142)
• United States
8 Dec 12
Non-profits are political neutral. How do they get away with it? This is the big concern. Also, the union executive make big money. I am glad I don't belong to a union and let them steal my money and live wealthy lives.
@trruk1 (1031)
• United States
8 Dec 12
Tax-exempt organizations are not supposed to be actively involved in politics. Like I said, if you want to change their status, petition Congress. It is their job.
@debrakcarey (19925)
• United States
9 Dec 12
Why won't the IRS prosecute them? They would if a church stepped over the line, in fact, they sent out a letter to churches reminding them of that this past election.
@chrystalia (1209)
• Tucson, Arizona
8 Dec 12
But Fatcat--of course they are a non profit! Just like the RED CROSS--they give all their "profits" to their administration, and to politicians. All unions are "non-profit". The 501c and other non-profit status categories in our laws are beyond ridiculous. This is one area of our tax code that has needed reform for a long long time, but like many others, it won't happen--because our politicians, and our government, would lose a lot of money if it did. Who would fund those billion dollar campaigns? But then again--why does someone spend millions to get a job in the first place?
@Fatcat44 (1142)
• United States
8 Dec 12
And non-profit are supposed to be political neutral. I think we should try to get them taken off from non-profit.
• Tucson, Arizona
8 Dec 12
I never agreed with them being non-profit in the first place-- because they were never politically neutral. Of course finding a good lawyer to take on the case might be difficult--the ACLU wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole, and if a conservative lawyer went after it, it would never fly. Any ideas as to how you are going to run this crusade?
@sender621 (14956)
• United States
8 Dec 12
I think that unions deal as any other kind of business would. i am sure that their share of taxation is met on as equal of trms as anyone else.
@matersfish (6311)
• United States
7 Dec 12
But a company finding a loophole is the worst thing to ever happen. A greedy businessperson not wanting to pay their "fair share" is an insult to the country. But organizations able to extort taxpayer money by supporting politicians don't even have to give up taxes. For all the massive amounts of profit they make--pure profit with some of them, since they return no product--they're "nonprofits." Politics is become way too political for me. I think I'm tired of griping for a while.
@dragon54u (31339)
• United States
7 Dec 12
We need to redefine non-profit. The unions use the dues they collect to wield political influence that increases their dues. Do they break even at the end of the year? I have never looked at their books but I doubt it. When their top guys are making millions every year and live in the best neighborhoods while many of their workers scrounge a living in rentals, I would argue about the non-profit status. If Obama wants everyone to be equal by redistributing wealth, the union bosses should be a prime target. They are among the millionaires he despises so much, as he is himself.
@debrakcarey (19925)
• United States
7 Dec 12
Trade unions are a school of communism. -Vladimir Lenin http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/dec/7/labor-unions-and-communism/ And Obama has given the Unions unprecidented power... http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/05/02/obamas-nlrb-strikes-again-employees-vote-to-decertify-voided-over-employer-handbook/