Would You Rather Be Good or Bad (when You're Happy with Bad, & Good Might Hurt)?

@mythociate (21437)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
December 9, 2012 9:13am CST
They say that you should read The Christian Bible (or maybe some other religion's Holy Book) to see the right way to live. So how do people live with themselves while any man is 'alone' (as G*d himself says "it is not good for the man to be")? That's my main reason for sticking with Christianity (rather than 'throwing it all in' with the sin-industry): Because--as they claim to be disciples of Jesus Christ--they would make sure that 'it IS good' for all their fellow Christians. But no. No one is Christian to help all other Christians (as Jesus would be today); they're all Christians so that life is good for themselves, not for ANYBODY ELSE unless it doesn't 'hurt' (or 'even look like it might hurt') them. All Christians follow the pattern of Doubting Thomas---they don't believe they can help anyone unless they've seen it happen before. Why do they lack that faith?
5 responses
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
9 Dec 12
Well Myth, we live in a very egocentric world. It is very hard to get folks to do things just because they are the 'right thing to do'. Folks want a reward now! and later. Instant gratification is the goal with a lot of folks. Christians no longer realize that all of their teachings in reference to how to treat their fellow man comes directly from the Torah...It is pure Judaism. I think that the ones that do, are angered by the fact and try to reject it. If, we as a people, took the time to teach our children even just the golden rule, the world could be an awesome place. It always starts with the little ones. Raise them right and for generations a people will reap the benefits. We need to stop teaching them that all one has to do is believe in the christian savior and they will be saved...It takes work too!
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
9 Dec 12
you know, that's GREAT for 'the future of kids today'; but I'm NOT a kid today! Where do we find ADULTS who want to do the right thing?
@Adoniah (7513)
• United States
10 Dec 12
I am one! But, good luck finding more...There are a few here on the Lot. Whenever you want to change the mindset of a civilization, you always start with the children...It does not take all that long for the change to be universal, especially today, when our kids are raised by the government, babysitters, and dayschool.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
11 Dec 12
Maybe that could be a slogan of my Presidential campaign---'Warping the Reality of Your Children'
@chrystalia (1208)
• Tucson, Arizona
10 Dec 12
To lack faith, many times is human, Myth--look at the disciples. There they are, wandering up and down the Galilee with a man who performs amazing miracles--and they still doubted him. And on occasion, denied him--and if you follow the Christian rather than gnostic books, betrayed him (personally, I go with the gnostics on that issue--it makes more sense). Gram always said: never underestimate the power of a person to delude themselves. People are good at deluding themselves, and rationalizing--many people firmly believe they are practicing their faith (Heaven help you if you point out when they aren't!). Gram also used the term Cafeteria Christians--and I am NOT trying to be offensive here! Not my term, hers--for people that seized on a scriptural doctrine here and there, and practiced those ones--while conveniently ignoring others. She was a very spiritual person, read Scripture, prayed, followed the Golden Rule--just left out the church part of things. The Jews had it right, and have it right now. What is hateful to you, don't do to your neighbor. Everything of importance comes back to this one simple rule, in one way or another. Jesus helped everybody he ran into--regardless of religion--because he was an observant Jew. Even the Christians I know who are happy to acknowledge that are equally quick to try to separate his teachings from the "Old Covenant"--which doesn't work, and never could--because he taught what he knew. I'll take being good over being bad any day--even when it does hurt. Nobody ever said life was supposed to be fair, or that doing the right thing would always be easy, after all.
• Tucson, Arizona
10 Dec 12
You pretty much nailed it there, and it's a good thing to teach--the distinction between knowledge and understanding is crucial.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
10 Dec 12
I plan to tell the Church-Fellowship's children about the difference between "knowledge" and "understanding," but the difference between "faith" & "doctrine" (which goes right along with this) might also show the same thing. See, the 'knowledge' needed is not a listing of commandments or a calculation of income-donated; it's simply 'the acknowledgement of another's superiority.' I 'know' G-d is in control ... case closed. But men want 'understanding' (boxed by 'doctrines,' under man's control), and 'understanding' truly means 'captured and contained for further observation.' Basically, you can only understand a thing as far as you can control it. (That's why G-d kicked us out of Eden---because he does not control our thoughts and so couldn't risk us living forever and extending our actions beyond his will.) Similar to the reason Lucifer got kicked out of Heaven.
@franseman (516)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Good and bad have NOTHING to do with religion! As an atheist I try to take my own responsibilities. If ever I can help people I do help. Also I am very concerned about our environment. So I don't let lights on in rooms where I'm not. I do throw cuttings from vegetables and fruits on a compost pile. We hardly throw food away for food it getting scarce. Good and bad is all about norms and values. If the kids today behave bad we can blame it on the parents. Most parents these days work both, dumping their kids everywhere. All because of them having 3 cars, 4 holidays etc. etc. And who teach the kids what love and raking care is all about? NOT the parents. Well this is generally spoken of course. But for sure I see changes. And not for the good!
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
10 Dec 12
Religion has nothing to do with G*d! It's about as involved with G*d as American schools are involved with the American flag---i.e. they're just 'something the group pledges allegiance-to. The rest of the time, religion's just about 'keeping the herd in line, marching to the slaughterhouse.' And I think I join religions specifically for the purpose of breaking those ranks!
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Actually I don't usually goes with this topic but I think I need to share my ideas about this. As a matter of fact, many religious people claim themselves as the follower of the good things but the problem is they don't know how to apply it in their life. For an example, there was a religious man/woman that a poor child asks for help for some food but instead of helping, he/she just ignored the child. So the good things they know hurt others. And what about the man who for an example win thru lottery. Lottery is considered a gamble and gambling is a sin. And this man helps people who are poor. In this case, bad thing brings happiness. Well, I am just stating some stories but of course I am not the kind of person who will do anything as bad as I know the word.
@ruffabee (145)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Every human being is subjected to a term "free will". We always have an option whether we will go good and we will go bad. Of course, as a human being with a matter called cconscience and humanity, what are you gonna choose? If you choose being bad, then, it's yours and if you choose being good then it's also yours. Now, if you choose not to be good, enter your heart and ask yourself. "Did I make a right choice, to be bad?" or "What will be the effect of being bad to others" and "Do I really like to be bad?" Now, once you assessed yourself, think again. "Do you really deserved to be good or bad".... It's your choice. :)
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
10 Dec 12
But what if I can logically draw the conclusion that I HAVE to be bad ... if only to PUNISH those whose lack of action MAKES me bad?