Will you be offended? I am not.

@GardenGerty (80271)
Marion, Kansas
January 1, 2013 10:59am CST
Warning, this concerns a pet peeve of mine. I will start out by saying that among other things I am of Native American Heritage. This discussion came to mind because one of the Marching Bands in the Rose Bowl Parade is the "Dutchmen". They march in special wooden shoes, are wearing knickers and the kind of clothes that are pictured in stories about the people of the Netherlands. We have "The Swedes", in a nearby community. And we have "The Vikings". Many of us are familiar with "The Fighting Irish" of Notre Dame,and I have just named a few. The only one that is ever criticized is the mascot, name or dress that reflects on Native Americans. Now I am not talking about the Victoria's Secret fiasco, which I did find to be in poor taste, but about the schools that are being chastised for being "Braves", "Redskins, "Warriers" and "Papooses" and drum majors that carry tomahawks. I am not offended. I think I am the only one around here that is not. So, just curious. If your nationality is or was used to indicated a team identity, or someone with great prowess, would you be offended? If you do not agree with me, I will listen, you can post your opinion and I promise not to give you a negative rating for another opinion. Please do me the courtesy of not flaming or being angry at my opinion. I grew up knowing that I am part of the Choctaw Nation and I am proud of my Native American heritage, though I know very little about it. I know, heavy discussion, perhaps, for the start of a New Year, but it just came to mind while watching that parade.
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@WakeUpKitty (8717)
• Netherlands
1 Jan 13
Although I still did wear those wooden shoes (you mention) at the first classes of high school (no it was not custom anymore since long but kind of modern again plus you have really warm feet in it in wintertime and you have to know how to walk on it) I find it (still) kind of weird the pic many nations do have about the dutch people. It's mainly not based on history at all. Personally I don't feel or would feel offended if my nationality is used (no matter for what). Since my nationality has nothing to do with who I am as a person.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Jan 13
I imagined that the pictures we have in stories and books is not totally accurate of the people of the Netherlands. I am bothered that it seems only to be the Native Americans that get upset about the naming here. I have some of many nationalities in my background, and I feel that Native American names indicate a respect for a brave people. I imagine that walking in wooden shoes would be hard unless you practiced a lot.
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@JohnRok1 (2052)
2 Jan 13
Amirable Senta-ments! ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_Dutchman )
@carmelanirel (21108)
• United States
1 Jan 13
Good for you. I think as long as the "people" are not "stereo typed" I think a anyone would be proud if a school is named after their heritage. My children's school is "Shawnee" and I see nothing wrong with that, and I think this is why my daughter started admiring the Native Americans, because of the name of her school...
@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Jan 13
I see this as a plus as well. No one really talks about studying the tribes, just that we should not use their names or depictions. One school had a marching band and the youngest school would be papooses, then braves for middle school and warriors for the high school. The district is much admired for the marching and choreographed strutting as they play.
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@ElicBxn (59545)
• United States
1 Jan 13
Well, I'm of Scot/Irish/English decent and I don't see anyone dressing like Picts these days (naked and painted blue) but I do see kilts and tams and stuff and I'm fine with that. I think what most Native Americans object to is the more derogatory names, like "Redskins". However, there are always that most vocal minority who will object to anything they think might be a reference to a group when said group doesn't include any of them. I wonder if they've really thought it through, tho, can you imagine the Florida 'Gators having to have real alligators on campus? How about the Texas Longhorns? Yeah, they have mascots, but really...
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Jan 13
I have seen people with blue painted faces and no shirts at football games, but they usually call them FANS. Redskins is questionable, just as Black ies ( or Blackamoors) would be, or Whiteys. The Swedes around here make more fun of themselves in jokes than anyone else does. On your last sentence let me say that I was a Bomber in High School and a Rocket in Jr. Hi, while the other Jr. Hi was Mustangs.Bombers and Rockets are a little dangerous to have on campus. I know a while back some religious groups did not want their teams or schools called "Devils" or "Blue Devils" and I can actually identify with that more so than with the other. However, I would not petition a school over a name.
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@ElicBxn (59545)
• United States
1 Jan 13
I hear that! I was a Scottie and a Matador in middle school, a Knight and a Trojan in high school. Then in college I was a Bobcat (Texas State), a Pioneer Woman (TWU) and the community college I went too doesn't seem to have a mascot. Yeah, I can see having a problem with Devils.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
2 Jan 13
How about a team that was the Salukis? I wonder how many students knew what that was. I did not, and I was not even curious, it was totally beyond me. Of course it was an opposing sports team.
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@911Ricki (13602)
• Canada
1 Jan 13
I would be offended if it was inappropriately, not to represent the area, or a team. I mean if they were bashing my hertage and their backgrounds. I went to school with a girl who was a native, now I have ntaive in my backgrund. She used it against everything. I just stopped talking to her because it got old after awhile. She wouldn't admit to her problems or anything, it was always your picking on me because I am a native.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
2 Jan 13
Yes, certain terms are derogatory and I would not like that either. People like the girl you knew in school are the ones that give their "people" a bad name. Oh, and another thing, people forget that not all "Indians" are the same, or all white people either.
@911Ricki (13602)
• Canada
2 Jan 13
Exacatly, everyone in the class repeatedly said do all of them act like that. She also expected the world to be handed to her as well. I can see to an extent, but sometimes just goes way over baord and irritating.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
2 Jan 13
I think if we are not perpetuating the wrongs of the past we should be looking toward working together in the future. We are all Americans, or in your case, you are all Canadians. People also bring up slavery and black people. Some of our founding fathers had slaves, and it was wrong, but people do not realize that some of the people who took and sold slaves in Africa were also Africans. People are mean to each other, regardless of the color of their skin.
@katsmeow1213 (26821)
• United States
2 Jan 13
I don't know what my nationality is, other than American (not native American.. just plain ole American) so it doesn't offend me. I remember when I was a child we were very into watching figure skating and there was a figure skater (I think he was French actually) who wore a shirt that looked like the American flag.. and at one point in his routine he took his shirt off and dropped it on the ice. He didn't do it in an offensive manner.. he meant to be sexy. I found no offense, but it became a big deal to others. Honestly I just think people like to complain about things.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
2 Jan 13
I would have a hard time with that, I guess, because the American flag represents all of us. If he was French, he should have used the French flag. I doubt, however that I would have boycotted his performance. I just would have been disappointed.
• United States
2 Jan 13
He meant nothing by it though. It wasn't the olympics or anything, it was just an exhibition show here in the states.. he wasn't trying to be disrespectful and he did apologize later.
@Pegasus72 (1904)
1 Jan 13
I like to see people dressed up like Native Americans. My mother was part Native American and part of her is from Holland. She had long American Indian Hair and was one of her best attributes. Also my Grand daughter who is also part American Indian, will be taught as much as we can about her Heritage.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
2 Jan 13
Actual Native American Dress is almost an art form. I have little problem with the regular clothes. I do understand that it is not very respectful to use something of religious significance in a disrespectful manner, like a Victoria's Secret Model wearing a head dress. Those head dresses represent much more than a bunch of feathers on their head.
@Jennlee3 (292)
• United Kingdom
1 Jan 13
I don't think it is the use of a nationality as a team mascot that is offensive so much as the images and costumes sometimes depicted for the team. For example, Native Americans (as I'm sure you know) aren't actually red faced but they're often depicted that way. That is offensive part. To perpetuate untrue and racist stereotypes through images.
@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
2 Jan 13
Focusing on skin color is inappropriate. I think naming a team after a tribe, or a town after an article of clothing can be historic and educational. I believe what we are doing now is what is important, and we should not have a blanket condemnation of all cultural references. I also recognize that we sometimes fail to respect clothing articles that might be of religious significance.
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@matersfish (6313)
• United States
1 Jan 13
The Native American lobby is a lot more connected than others. Plus there's the guilt factor. Being part Italian, I'm offended by Jersey Shore. But only because those orange schmucks give us a bad name! Being part Irish, I'm offended that Notre Dame thinks they have a chance to beat Alabama next week! Roll Damn Tide! But on a serious note: "Irish" and "fight" is definitely a stereotype. But I don't think many are offended by it, and there are a heck of a lot of people in America with Irish ancestry. But, then again, even if some were offended, it would never get anywhere. Number one, Irish are considered white. You can't be white in America and have a legitimate complaint about anything unless you're gay, disabled, or some other protected class. Two, everyone loves stereotypes. We all identify one another through stereotypes. So unless it is a protected class of people some feel guilty about, it's perfectly acceptable.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Jan 13
I guess you are right, it has to be a group of people of color to be offended. I could make a case for being offended for a lot of things, but why. The people locally who complain the loudest about Native American issues are pale, with kinky light brown hair and blue eyes, go figure.
• Canada
1 Jan 13
As long as they were depicted accurately, I'd be ok with it. If the depiction was a tired or racist stereotype, I'd be offended, but if accurate, I'd be ok.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Jan 13
I agree with not singing "one little two little three little Indians" Just as I agree with not reading the book "Little Black Sambo", those are not appropriate. I just do not get why it is wrong to call a great ball team "Braves" or "Warriors".
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@bunnybon7 (27455)
• Holiday, Florida
1 Jan 13
heres something i dont understand either. we used to have a Squaw mountain here and people raised a big to do about it a few years ago. they said squaw was a bad name to call native american women , so i think they changed it but i cant remember what to. i have native american in my family and ancestry. it doesnt bother me such things.
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• United States
1 Jan 13
Squaw Peak is now Piestewa Peak. They renamed it in honor of Lori Piestewa, who was the first Native American woman to die in combat while serving with the U.S. military.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Jan 13
I love this. . . it is educational and honoring of culture and heritage. Squaw is a derogatory name just as the "n" word, and names we called Italians, Polish people and lots of others. I just learned from FrugalMommy about a person to honor in our country.
@bunnybon7 (27455)
• Holiday, Florida
2 Jan 13
thank so much frugal. i could not remember what all the contriversey was about and now i remember, i even did a search and couldnt find it. but now i remember seeing her pic on tv and everything. id forgotten it was called peak and not mountain also!
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• United States
2 Jan 13
First, I would like to thank you and your ancestors for allowing my family to come to your great country and allow us to stay. I am also sorry for what we (whites) did to your people. I can't say that my nationalities are used as a mascot or anything (Italian, Scotch, French, German and maybe something else), so I wouldn't have any experience to draw on to say how I'd feel about that. I think it's awesome that your so proud of your Native American heritage; I've never had an opportunity to meet anyone from the Choctaw Nation. Where I'm from, the Lenni-Lenape are prevalent, but my ex-fiance was part Cherokee. When he learned of his family's lineage, he had to stop liking John Wayne because of his views regarding Native Americans.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
2 Jan 13
Well, the Germans are represented when the Mascot is the Teutons. I am not sure I can think of other teams with different nationalities. I guess what is on my mind is that we are all American and when one segment of society uses their heritage to bully another one that is wrong. I do not think people should make fun of other races, but they need to lighten up a little bit about some things. I am as white as anyone, and was never enough Native American to cause the federal government to give my school more money. On the other hand, when I would wear my hair parted in the middle and certain clothes people asked me all the time if I was Indian. I was flattered. All through my school years we had a survey every year and a form to fill out about our degree of Indian blood, and also whether or not we were military dependents. Either one could get the school district more subsidies. I have heard various nicknames and seen stereotypes of all the people you name, and none of it is right. On the other hand, my hubby remembers growing up where they had an annual game between the Italians and the Poles, but those were not the names they used. No one was offended, it was part of their town's heritage.
• United States
2 Jan 13
To be correct that baseball game was between the Italians and the Swedes. They still have that baseball game every year during Bass Festival.
• United States
4 Jan 13
I'm half-Italian, but my last name is Scottish-go figure! I also don't really look that Italian anyway; I've got the fair skin and light eyes of the northern Italians. My uncle was a blue-eyed blond, yet both of my grandparents had jet black hair! I had a social studies teacher in the seventh grade; he used to tease students based on their ethnic backgrounds. One student happened to have an Italian last name, so he always teased her about being part of the Mafia. And one of our tests had a question about George Wallace-he thought he'd be smart and just put the last name on the test. Everyone else in the class thought it was about me, so they wrote my first name; I was the only one who got it correct. Guess it's a good thing he didn't bother me about being related to the mob; some of my older relatives used to run numbers. And I think at least one was paying protection money, but no one still alive will own up to that story.
@Loverbear (4929)
• United States
1 Jan 13
I do agree about the insensitivity of the naming of school's teams, mascots and marching bands. But I also take into consideration the fact that many of these schools were founded way before the cultural sensitivity movement began. While it would be wonderful if these schools would change their mascot, marching bands, and team's name and reference; the most difficult thing on the face of the earth is to exact change. I used to love to watch westerns, but I couldn't stand the horrible bloodshed featured in each of them. The American Indians truly got the short end of the stick when the first "white man" landed on what was to become the United States and Canada. As it still is in modern times, we pushed our beliefs on the natural residents of the country and if they didn't change to our way of life they were slaughtered! As it was said in one of the movies about the Pope, the Catholic Church is going to be doing penance for centuries to come for what they did to the American Indians. The priests treated the American Indians like dirt, and they expected them to abandon their beliefs and accept the Catholic way. If not the Indians were beaten, starved, and otherwise abused. Often times they were killed. We took their lands from them, in the name of progress. We called the Indians "savages" while we were killing them, stealing their lands, molesting their women, killing their food sources, and forcing them on extended marches to "reservations". Humm, I wonder who was the savage? We continued to disrespect the American Indian to modern days. As a nation, the Americans continued to abuse nationalities that we felt were inferior...including enslaving the African Americans. The egotistical population felt that the African Americans were no better than a piece of garbage and they could be ripped from their families and sold like merchandise, they could be beaten and killed at the "owner's" whim. I could continue with all the horrible atrocities that have been done to various peoples at the hands of others... and the lack of sensitivity to the various peoples and their beliefs. Until people learn that they are not superior to others, but are the same as everyone else, will we be able to eliminate the racial slurs like the tomahawks, Mohawk hair cuts, and other slurs. Until we reach the point of realizing that "All people are created equal" we will continue to have wars, assassinations, gangs, and killings aimed at a particular nationality or race. I continue to pray that one day people will learn to live in peace and respect of other nationalities, cultures, mental abilities, physical capabilities (I went through that many years ago), and even social economical status. I happened to run into the principal of my elementary school many years ago. The first words out of his mouth were "I remember you! You couldn't play baseball!!! You were sooo stupid you couldn't even hit the ball!" I was so close to slapping him smart (he already was silly and stupid...maybe a good hard smack would have made him a bit smarter!) I was on the sales floor and we were supposed to be polite to the customer no matter what...but I totally lost it. I looked at the egotistical jerk and asked him "Was it that important that I could hit a baseball?" His response was "YES, after all baseball is the national past time and it reflected badly on the school because you couldn't hit the ball". It took me a bit to get my anger under control and then I blew at him "DID YOU EVER ASK ME ABOUT MY ABILITY TO HIT THAT STUPID BALL?" The man looked at me like I had hit him. I continued on with "You never took the time to get to know me, to find out why I couldn't hit the ball, to offer special help in teaching me how to hit the ball. You just have the b-lls to stand there and still criticize me and continue to make fun of my inability to play baseball. Did you ever stop once to think that since I wear glasses that maybe I couldn't see the ball to hit it? I have ambliopia which leaves me with NO depth perception so I couldn't judge the distance to hit that stinking ball. And furthermore, if it reflected badly on the school and you that I couldn't hit the ball...did it ever come to your mind that maybe it wasn't my inabilities but your inabilities as a teacher that reflected badly on the school?" I then turned and walked away. It is those kind of attitudes that keeps the sociological turmoils going. Just like you GardenGerty, please don't replay to my posting with flaming assaults, criticisms, and angry responses. I am simply expressing an opinion and expressing what I have learned through the years.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Jan 13
No, I would never flame you. I hope that no one else will either.You can have your opinion, and I am pretty familiar with the way we treat people who are "different" from us. I think some of the names we borrow for our schools are respectful, others are not, but there are many things that need correcting in the educational field. I had plenty of bullies for teachers as well. I always thought schools were to educate and develop well rounded individuals. I could not play very many sports very well at all. I also have horrible eyesight.I was a debater, but we could not have a "debate lounge" in an empty classroom, but all the money could go for the football team. I had teachers make fun of me for enjoying the sudden "aha" of decoding a word in the elementary levels.Twenty five years later I had a principal tell me that my son could not read, he was a kindergartener. The difference being that I was belittled when I was in school, but the principal who told me kindergarteners do not read, apologized to me just a few weeks later. I had teachers who never taught at all, but spouted off about their life and did their best to find a way to inflict corporal punishment on every child in their care. I think if we use an ethnic name for our school, we should do our best to honor and learn about the ethnicity. It is a learning opportunity and a way to honor someone else. I had a hard time when I worked in retail. I am usually pretty nice but some customers just about did not deserve it. Thank you for contributing to this discussion. I like to start light ones, usually, but this just came to mind today.
@Loverbear (4929)
• United States
2 Jan 13
I too was bullied by both teachers and students. I was different and didn't conform to what everyone thought was the "norm". I was a free thinker who couldn't see the point of smacking a ball with a stick. I also didn't excel at running, playing football, and other sports in general. Now that I know about the heart problem that has been with me from birth, it explains a LOT! If only I could confront those who made my life miserable...including my father who thought that I should be able to water ski, run track, jump hurtles, climb ropes to the top of twenty foot ceilings and whatever else everyone was doing...and let them know that I truly wasn't able to physically meet the challenges of being so physical. I excelled at art, writing, literature and other activities that he felt were foolish and unnecessary. Each segment of society and each ethnicity should be treated with respect rather than with contempt and disrespect. People get very tired of being put down for their background, ethnic heritage, and their beliefs. We need to learn that by listening and learning from the various religions, heritages, beliefs, and sociological lives we can not only be better educated but even prevent possible wars. By the way, are you on your way here for dinner? Tonight is the rib eye roast, roasted garlic potatoes, fresh home made rolls... should I continue? We were going to have an ice cream cake but we didn't get to the ice cream store on time so we're going to have to order one and pick it up later this week.. I know we're going to have a huge Pit/lab sitting on the floor beside the table and drooling like a waterfall. Happy New Year! Tons of hugs to you and your wonderful family from my family of critters and Bill.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
2 Jan 13
Nope, I am at work. Very light duty, and holiday pay. I will stay to the last minute. I will work tomorrow night for a co worker who had a family emergency. My regular schedule is Tuesday and Thursday evening. Friday morning sometime we leave for Minnesota. I would love to be able to take off whenever I want to. Unfortunately that requires money. I brought my computer tonight cause I had an article to write. I need to get more serious about finding freelance work.
@dawnald (84122)
• Shingle Springs, California
1 Jan 13
I wish I could remember the name of the book. It was basically the truth about Columbus, portrayed from the native American side. But it also talked about slavery and many other wrongs. There was a chapter on the Native American reasons for being offended by such portrayals, and it explained it so much better than I ever could.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
2 Jan 13
I think some things are offensive, but not all. I would be interested in the book you are referring to. I am not on a campaign to infringe on anyone's freedom of speech in expressing their concern over some of these topics, I just do not understand some parts of it.
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@dawnald (84122)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Jan 13
It just came to me, "Rethinking Columbus"
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
2 Jan 13
I think most of us realize that the history we are taught in school is always from a biased point of view, reflecting the opinions of whoever won the battle, conquered the nation. I guess I think about how much time we spend fighting over things we cannot fix and we do not address the things we can fix. Native Americans still live in poverty and yet contribute in supporting the country. Thanks for coming up with the book title.
@savypat (20248)
• United States
1 Jan 13
Both Hubby and I agree with you. we felt it an honor for one of our local schools to have Braves as school mascot. Every kid in that school wanted to be connected with the Braves. How could that be considered an insult to Indian fighters who were known as Braves. We lost that fight and the name was changed, at which point I lost interest in the subject. As far as I'm concerned the people who started this were called stupid.
@ANTIQUELADY (36493)
• United States
1 Jan 13
I'm glad u are proud of your heritage, u should be. Have u ever seen the play in gatlingberg about native americans? I saw it as a child & have had great sympathy for the way they were treated ever since. I have some heritage to w/native americans in my history.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Jan 13
No, I have not, and I also have never been to the Trail of Tears in Oklahoma although I grew up there. In grade school we went to a town called Anadarko which show cased many things about the various tribes of the area. Yes, we mistreated Indians, and Negros, and the Irish, and the Chinese who came to our country. Human beings are really stinkers sometimes.
@bagarad (6276)
• Paso Robles, California
1 Jan 13
I've never had any real opinion on this. My team in high school was the Buccaneers. Those of us at UCLA were Bruins. I think most schools named their teams for qualities such as toughness, bravery, competence, etc, that are useful in winning. I think it's only when we started to see the country break into the ethnic rather than assimilating into the melting pot this became a problem. When people thought of themselves merely as Americans who had an ethnic background elsewhere, it wasn't the issue it is today when immigrants tend to identify more with their ethnicity than their new nation. Personally, I think only the Native Americans who were here first have any reason to gripe, since they didn't come here to be Americans. Still, though, what's wrong with being a Brave? I believe Indian names were chosen not as caricatures but because they represented qualities important in winning football games. Just my opinion.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Jan 13
I think it all depends on how the reference is done as to whether it is offensive or not. I do not find the tomahawk or the name Brave, Warrior, or names of individual tribes do not offend. I am on the fence about Redskins as there are people that find it disparaging, and then there are tribes that call themselves Red Men. I guess there are more earthshaking issues in this world, and I find that some of these "problems" detract from the other more serious issues.
@MandaLee (3378)
• United States
1 Jan 13
Hi Gerty, What a great question. I think that if my nationality was used to represent a team, that would cause me to feel respect and pride about my heritage. On the other hand, I can also understand how some people may be offended by it. Happy New Year!
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Jan 13
There are ways that are appropriate and other ways that are inappropriate. That is the main thing I was wanting to say. We also have a team locally that is the Teutons. Okay, my image and what I learned in school is not very flattering of the Teutons, so should I have a problem with that team, or the Vikings, no, I do not. Thanks for coming by my discussion, have a great New Year.
@finlander60 (1776)
• United States
1 Jan 13
I have thought that I was "Probably the closest thing to a REAL AMERICAN that is likely." My actual heritage is English, Irish, Scottish, Finnish, German, Swedish, Yugoslavian and Russian. I, and my relatives are TRUE AMERICANS,since America is known as The Melting Pot of the World. The only thing that would help this designation would be if we suddenly found out that there is some Native American somewhere in our family heritage. I just tried to find out if there is a mascot or symbol for the Finnish people, but no such luck, yet. Maybe someone else knows of one. If someone does know, I would be glad to know about it. The only thing I know for sure concerns a famous Finnish runner named Paavo Nurmi who was called "The Flying Finn." I, for one, would feel HONORED to have a nickname like that.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Jan 13
People from Finland are noted for music and engineering innovations as well. A Finlander designed the St. Louis Arch. I guess an engineering school could have a Finn for a mascot. We owe it to the Laplanders and their Reindeer that Santa can get around the world. I am Scots, Irish, English, Welsh. German, and my grandma claimed something like "Black Dutch". Native American--Choctaw Tribe, French and Jewish or and Swedish. Pretty well WASP for the most part.
• United States
2 Jan 13
You may actually be closer than I am to claim "True American."
@JohnRok1 (2052)
2 Jan 13
Would a swan do as a mascot, Finlander? My reaction to that might be "Cor!"
@inertia4 (24828)
• United States
16 Jan 13
I have always had great respect for native Americans. I have always thought that they were always pushed aside and forgotten. That always bothered me. I agree with you. They are being represented in a positive light really. I think that native Americans should be the only privileged people in this country. After all, they were here first. I also believe that all native Americans should be exempt from everything in this country, like paying taxes. As for my nationality, well, the Italians are always looked at as mafia. I despise the mafia. But I cannot change that. I am also not offended by that because I know I am not involved it that garbage and most italians are not. They are good people. As a matter of fact, I consider myself an American because I was born here.
@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
16 Jan 13
Your value is not in your blood heritage but in how you live your life. I know not all Italians are mafia.Not all southerners are rednecks, etc. When I lived in San Diego I met a Mexican lady at exercise class who basically asked us all not to view Mexican people as being like those "hill billies" who would come across the border and vandalize stuff. Yes, wrongs were done to Native Americans, and to Negroes, and to Italian immigrants, and the Irish and so forth. We are all part of the human race. I have gotten to know many fine people here on MyLot. I think that is an important fact. Mylot tries to make sure we do not offend with any mis spoken slang term, to the point it gets funny sometimes, but we should censor ourself if we are truly offensive.
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@inertia4 (24828)
• United States
27 Jan 13
We should all censor ourselves. And you're right, not every group is bad for their preconceived idea of them. We are all humans and part of the human race. I see it like this. In every nationality there are good and bad. I being italian despise the mafia. I find them disgusting and offensive. They should be ashamed of being italian. But this happens in every walk of life. There are really more good people out there then bad people. So I feel as if I am in good company. Especially here in MyLot.
@aerous (13477)
• Philippines
2 Jan 13
I think people of these days should not be discriminating each other. We are in the age of advance technology where no people must not be confronted with harsh words and discriminating action to some extent.
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@GardenGerty (80271)
• Marion, Kansas
2 Jan 13
The words are not necessarily harsh, but they do make people mad. To some degree we can choose what to get mad about. We all live in one country. Some people can celebrate their heritage and even laugh about it, others just want to pick a fight and that is not right.
@aerous (13477)
• Philippines
3 Jan 13
Well, we need to accept that humanity have different views in life. But don't forget to understand those people if they are doing something which is not good to others.