Where did it all begin?

I might repeat the famous quote "The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world" I wonder at what point in time in our life this was discovered. This more than proves the fact that women are not unreliable to use your own words. How can anyone who is unreliable rule the world! The question still remains while on the one hand women are supposed to rule the world and yet on the other hand they are considered lesser mortals.

"Reliability" is not 'strength' or 'power to move or -manipulate'; reliability is simply 'the practice of being there on time and staying there as long as needed and doing what you're told to do the way you're told to do it'---'predictability.' Employers don't want 'a rare breed whose service is good when the lucky time comes by that she is not otherwise involved (with matters of feminine hygiene),' they want someone 'reliable.'

Keeping someone on the job because they are available unlike women who would be busy with their responsibilities should not be the reason for women to be considered less reliable. They too, from the beginning of time, had responsibilities that should have been considered equal with men. But why was this not considered is the question here.

In the good old days every woman was treated as a lesser mortal and that being the case religion as you pointed out could not be the reason. We are now in the year 2013 and do see a sweeping change in that women have moved forward but some as you say are bound by religious norms. The question therefore still remains. Where did it begin?

Does that mean that in some areas people have gone against religion and given the status a woman truly deserves!

My answer is...I don't know, lol. Just curious, why do you think religion cannot be the reason? I guess it depends on what you believe. Man has worshiped some form of "God" since his creation, has he not? Humans have looked to the stars, or skies or heavens for answers since they were created, therefore is not religion as old as man? And if religion is as old as man, is it not possible that religion is the source?

Greater physical strength , the capacity to garner resources for a family must have been the root cause of it all.It would have clearly designated roles to play and everything else would have followed.

Allknowing! Women are survivors and men know it .THere is no unfairness at all because God has made us better .Poor men need to feel bad about the unfairness of it all because they know that the hand that rocks the cradle does rule the world.

So it looks like it just happened with no formal introduction of a law that men rule over women! You think it is money - who brought the dough kind of situation? All because men were physically strong and could do those jobs that women could not. Seems unfair to me. And yet - "The hand that rocks the cradle rules the world" kala

The Taj Mahal was constructed in the memory of a loved one but I don't think that loved one was treated as equal. Some adored women but never kept them on par. Where did this idea of giving women the second place all begin? You have said about the women folk in your life got the place that they rightly deserved but you have not answered my question! The respondent in Box No. 1 above attributes it to physical strength. Do you agree with that user?

as I am surrounded by too many things and am confused with words).[i][/i] You have only stated how women have been treated but you have not said why. I get the feeling that in the good old days when manual labour was the main source for earning one's bread which only men could do that got prominence and a woman's role - an important one at that - was swept under the carpet. As far as religion goes there too what could be the likely reason for religion to treat women as lesser mortals?

but you have not answered my question! Well I think I pointed out two reasons when I said - Politics and Interpreters of Religion. I dont think the physical strength has to do much. Yes, it might be on occasions when you hear and see physical violence against them, but then, there are just a few such instances. The many men have started taking women as objects - and that is where the problem lies. Our Indian movies too have almost always showcased women as some object which can be won over by wrong doings - many actors have persisted in teasing their lady love, and have won their love in the movies. and this definitely sends wrong messages to the society. Similarly, the women continue to be projected merely as s-x objects - in many movies which again sends wrong messages. Now women allowing to them be used for the sake of money or whatever reasons, is wrong again... so it is definitely quite impossible to pinpoint at one instance and say this is where things started getting wrong. There has been a long chain of incidents which is responsible for sending out and establishing the wrong reasons and wrong impressions. (hope I make some sense here, as I am surrounded by too many things and am confused with words).

Could religion be the cause? But the way things have evolved for women now, at a global level what started it and what triggered this change is still confusing.

The response in box No.1 seems one reason. But over a period of time this has changed for many women in many parts of the world while there are women still who are treated as lesser mortals. So. What is the main reason?

i see your point. May be in the good old days only hard labour was available for earning one's bread and therefore this segregation about women staying at home and the men working. But it has now evolved in several countries and women are considered equal. Why is it that some countries are still lagging behind?