Supreme Court advocate thinks good girls dont get raped

Oh I just got mad when I read that....

for God's sakes she is just making a p oint of how angry she is with that advocate for what he daid. She is n ot evil.

No matter how angry you could ever possibly make me, there is no way I would ever, at any point, actually wish that you, or anyone you know, were ever raped for any reason. We may disagree, even to the point of seething anger, and I would never wish such a thing to happen. That's plain evil.

Hi andy yeah you are right in your point of view , but thinking and showing he anger will change from person to person so there is nothing wrong in her words. She just quoted those lines ( may be she forgot to add how that lawyer will feel now and how will he respond , Will he use the same words Good girls don't get raped ). I can see that you are taking the Words Personally .

Even if I'd sincerely wished it to happen, it wont, because I bet he is married to one of the ugliest ladies in the town, who paid a hefty dowry to marry a person like him, and remained submissive to him whatever were his atrocities, simply because she had no choice. Who would want that ugly lady anyway...not even the rapist. He had the audacity to say good girls are not touched by the dons...makes me sick to the core.

I see what Hatley is saying here. It has nothing at all to do with how a woman is dressed. Rape is about control and power and has nothing at all to do with a woman's innocence or lack of it. those things don't matter to a rapist. Good girls do get raped and so do ugly women and age is not a factor either. Bottom line is that it does not matter the cause,.,..it is NEVER ok.

I am an American and I resent that a lot as no women no matter what she wears deserves to be raped at all ever. You make us sound like you think we are all just a b unch of w.h.o.r.e.s here; ju just inviting someopne to rape us. You forget this is an open foru m to p;eople from all over the wor ld and as its vased dhere in the US there are a lot of us Americans here so soft pedal mean talk about us American women.

typos someone not someopne and people not that mess. sorry forgot to edit.WE do take advantage of our freedom as w e are proud to be in the l and of the free and the brave so back off.

I bet he would be submissive when he is raped.. Good girl definition by these men is hard to understand... I mean...they dont want girls to earn because girls who earn can decide right and wrong and exercise their rights, and get help from others if things are bad in their home. But worst...girls who work dont bring dowries, or the dowries they bring is considerably lower. That is so insulting for the men!!! They are forced to marry such girls because there is shortage of girls. And then they take out their frustration on them... I think more rapes are reported because girls are educated. They want to fight back. In the past, girls were raped as often, but they kept quiet about it. And what justification this crazy man has for the rape of three or four years old...were they seducing the guys ..? Disgusting.

In what sense..lol I am being sarcastic...I want the guy to realize that rape can happen to any woman, good or bad.

Five year old babies dont wear jeans nor seduce..they still get raped...I need an explanation for that before they ban jeans out here..

OMG, then I got you completely wrong.SORRY!!! Well, all men that rape women should be punished. There is NEVER an excuse. I read about that lawyer and thought:This man is crazy!! Also read thaat in some psrt of India women are not allowed to wear jeans anymore. That's weird. Men should learn to control themselves!!

Are you kidding? Rapists will be acquitted...wanna bet?

At least I am an honest evil one..lol

I agree...I was just mad when I came across it.

yeah i can clearly understand that you more than MAD on that lawyer , and your intentions are clearly seen . I think you wanna ask this same question to that lawyer if he come in front of you.

I want somebody to have guts to make them bad... Yes...thats the genius.

It is pathetic that this advocate waited for 2 years to decide if she was actually raped as her boyfriend and she had some intimacy in Feb 2010 and she made it news in Feb 08 2012 (I refer to that link provided by topffer)... this case is just something like - Grapes are Not Sour!

Yes, this is an attitude hard to understand for an advocate.

Justice delayed is justice denied!!! When the plaintiff is no more, there is no case to continue, is there? How many of such cases have been pushed under the carpet? I can understand...we are fighting a case since last 30 odd years..right now it is in Supreme Court, and we have in the past 5 years or so found new evidences in support of our case, and so they are prolonging the case by hook or crook. In any event, even if we win it, Supreme Court is only going to direct High Court to review it. So presuming the case would be heard this year, and final orders in respect would be passed the next year, it would still be a couple of years in High Court before we start enjoying our properties. Where does that leave Dad and me? Too old to enjoy, and too old to prevent kabza.

As a matter of fact, such closeted species become more vulnerable to crimes because facts of life are hidden from them. Right? Modern girls may have bad experience, and learn from it. But the closeted ones, i.e., "good" girls, would be trusting once too often, till they can no longer retain their right to be called "good". Everybody is innocent till proven otherwise.

He is a retard, he is senile, he is insane...and that is the kind of advocates that practice in our Supreme Court. I wonder why they are not disbarred.

Exactly, that supreme court should consider giving mental estability exam for their applicants, to avoid such advocate like this one.

Its all over yahoo...what excuses are they making to get those guys out..:( Just want to be evil one to check whether his wife and daughter are good or not... I dont know if people like that understand shames. Today they fight like this. 20 years later, it might be their grand daughter who faces similar fate and then they may not have any Supreme Court advocate or judge in their family to fight the case. I am apalled to say the least that such a guy practices in Supreme court. He said good girls ..even dons would not touch. It is only the bad ones that are touched. So ...does he have contacts with underworld dons? How can he know their such personal habits?

The rights of everyone is the same as to the application of the law is concern.

So has not the lawyer clearly indicated that it is ok to rape a bad girl; it doesnt qualify as a rape?

Is the right of bad girl not to be raped any less than the right of a good girl not to be raped? That is also a pertinent question that comes into mind at the moment.

Good for you! Someone from the USA took exemption to my statement that girls should not dress in exotic attire, but I have lost that post. I'm from the USA, also, and jeans are not exotic attire. I was speaking about dresses where the neckline goes clear down to the navel and skirts that barely cover their panties, if they are wearing any at all. I'm not saying that any female deserves to be raped, but why give an open invitation? Have you not heard that an ounce prevention is worth a pound of cure? I definitely agree that wearing blue jeans on public conveyance would be preferable to wearing a sari, if reality is anything like the pictures I have seen of public transportation in India. We are talking about two different cultures. I just hope that Indian women don't go as far down the lack of modesty road as many American women have.

I think wearing more contemporary attire is a way of convenience apart from psychological comfort that should anything bad happen, I can run!!! Running in sarees, which is the traditional attire is more difficult, and chunnis too would be handicap as they can get caught somewhere, but jeans do give mental comfort about physical security. A girl cant be good or bad simply based on what she wears!!! Out here, they are trying to prevent the girls from taking up employment. Educated girls exercise their rights, and are more open to divorces. They can survive without their husbands, if the husband is abusive. That is resented. As is the feeling that if these girls were remaining indoors, we would be employed and get paid better. Last but not the least - educated girls are more open to the idea of dating and finding a spouse who cares for them rather than paying dowry and agreeing to a match that is bad but has to be accepted just because it is within the community. This brings down the dowry rates, and in view of the shortage of girls (female foetuses are killed), it is resented all the more. So yes, the male community is up against the girls and women out here.

Very good point there...bad girls dont make an issue, they blackmail or accept monetary considerations...good girls protest...

When you say that women of the previous generation want the dowery custom to continue, you surely mean the mothers of the eligible bachelors. The mothers of the girls would be foolish to want this outdated custom to continue.

Mothers of the girls are pressurised by the society. It goes like this..."how old is your daughter?" So are you on a look out for matches?, and "get her married fast otherwise, it will be very difficult to get matches later on", and so on. She is torn between doing the right thing, and obeying the existing dictat of the society for her daughter. She cant possibly sacrifice her child's future for her principles. It is for the girl to say she doesnt want to pay. Girls generally dont defy the system. Some are shrewd, but most know how difficult it to remain unmarried. Safety is an issue. And law, as you already know, of little help.

These are evolution pangs ...yes, educated girls are opting to find guys from other communities rather than pay hefty dowries within their communities for a guy that is not half as good. That is hurting the ego of the guys, and strangely the women of previous generation are also against it. They want the dowries. So...it all boils down to being up against a lot of people. Just like freedom struggle, there will be sacrifices..but eventually there is light at the end of the tunnel, whether we live or not.

Yeah I want his wife and daughter to prove they are good by living with rapists and not getting raped..