bullying in my own house

@dawnald (85135)
Shingle Springs, California
January 18, 2013 11:39am CST
Last night the kids were eating dinner. Mean old mom wouldn't take them out to eat, made them finish off the leftovers. I was upstairs with Tony, when I heard what I thought was crying. "Is that crying or stupid kid noises?" He turned the TV down and I couldn't tell, but then after a minute or so, it was clearly crying, so I went down. I heard something about "you are not ugly without your glasses", turned the corner, and Cary was inconsolably crying. Dearra had taken his glasses away, and for some reason he thinks he's ugly without them (need to have a talk with that boy). I made her give them back, but she went at him for being a big baby about it until I told her to stop it. Like twice. Things finally calmed down, and I went back upstairs. But it occurred to me later that what she was doing to him was exactly the sort of thing I feared that he would run into at school with bullys. Yep, she was basically bullying him. If I catch her at it again, she is not going to like what I do about it. She can be very opinionated, usually for the good, but not always. She and Naomi got into it this morning about how Naomi can never watch shows that she likes but Dearra doesn't without getting mocked. Going to have to have a talk with that girl.
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@vandana7 (98826)
• India
18 Jan 13
Dawny, I think it is a good thing!!! I mean, you and me we cant go around the world correcting every bully out there, right? So someday the little Cary has to learn how to face up to bullying, and how to retaliate and if not, how to absorb such anger...help the anger dissipate. If he is over protected at home, he will be more sensitive and therefore, even seemingly innocent words may be termed as bullying by him. I am fine if such teasing and ragging goes on amongst brother and sister.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
I agree, but at the same time, she shouldn't be allowed to just walk all over him.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
One of these days, he will realize that he is bigger and stronger than her, in just a few years, and she will have to watch it then.
@vandana7 (98826)
• India
18 Jan 13
lol...roles reversed..lol My sweet blondie..
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@marguicha (215428)
• Chile
18 Jan 13
I know that older siblings (or the ones with more power) can be real nasty. We have to be on the look out for that. I remember that many years ago, I babysitted some weeks for my eldest daughter. The two older kids were mean with their younger halfbrother. I`m glad that I`m a witch. I gave them a lesson. My daughter had no idea of the words they used at their brother. The least they said was something that could be translated as "Hey, halfwitted!"
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
She calls him stupid far too often, and with him being in special education, that is really hurtful.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
Not a bad idea. I bet she has no idea how often she says stuff like that.
@marguicha (215428)
• Chile
18 Jan 13
How about getting a bulleting board or something like that and telling her that you`ll count every single disparaging word she says. You can tell her what she will lose after a certain number. Make sure it is something that hurts her. Noone can go around thinking that they can do everything they want to. Least of all, to a brother who has special problems to deal with.
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@carmelanirel (20942)
• United States
18 Jan 13
Oh I can relate, except my older son would physically hurt his younger sister in order to control her. I didn't know this because obviously she was careful around him and I didn't know it until she moved out. My younger son, however, told me a couple times his brother did this so I don't allow them together unless I or someone is with them.
• United States
18 Jan 13
Yeah, but truthfully I have a hard time with both, and it is the verbally abuse I touch on in my book.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
I'm not downplaying it, it hurts, I'm just glad there's nothing pysical going on additionally.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
That's scary. At least Dearra is only verbally abusive (mostly).
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
18 Jan 13
She probably won't see it as bullying but she needs to understand that people's sensitivities cannot just be ridden over roughshod; even if she thinks that it is for his own good. No doubt you'll deal with it, I wonder what you were upstairs doing with Tony. Dirty mind I've got...
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@p1kef1sh (45681)
18 Jan 13
I am sure that it is not unsavoury. A beautiful union I am certain of it.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
Dear Mr. Dirty Mind, Tony and I watch TV and leave the door open for cats and kids. IF there were anything unsavory going on in there, it would be after the childrens' bedtime, and with the door closed and locked. Sincerely, And on the topic of bullying, yes she didn't see it that way, I am sure. She thought she was teaching him a lesson or something, and that he was being a baby about it. We need to have a serious talk...
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@alberello (4752)
• Italy
19 Jan 13
Well, even when I was in school, even then happened to the boys bullying the weak, all things considered, in those days, the word "bully", I did not feel even mention. Nowadays, unfortunately, often feel weak boys, victims of the arrogance of some elements. It is a phenomenon that should not happen! The children who suffer (often this happens in schools), sometimes do not talk about at home with their parents, perhaps out of shame. And it is wrong! Parents have the right to know if they can take up the defense. I'm sorry that happened to your house such a thing!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Jan 13
It's handled, thanks.
@Mavic123456 (21898)
• Thailand
20 Jan 13
alberello.. were you the bullied or the bully?
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@vernaC (1491)
• Romania
19 Jan 13
I was like this with my sisters especially the youngest one when we were kids. We were teasing each other much till someone cried but we never realized it's bullying. Anyway, when my parents caught us doing this, they scold us and of course tells us it's not right and they teach us to say sorry to each other and to kiss each others cheeks after.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Jan 13
Oh wow, if I asked Dearra to kiss her brother's cheeks she'd laugh me out of the house...
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Jan 13
Different customs too
@vernaC (1491)
• Romania
19 Jan 13
I'm sure, kids these days are very much aware of this thing but way back then we were too innocent and just follow what parents tells us to do.
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@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
19 Jan 13
I would have a talk with her, and get her whole side of the story, when the two of you are not upset. Maybe she did not start off with being a bully, but the situation escalated. Maybe go with discussing the situation and ask her how she could have handled it differently. Maybe giving her pointers. If she was just being mean, I would tell her that it won't be tolerated and that actions like that will have consequences and stick to it.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Jan 13
It is quite possible that it started with him doing something annoying...
@AJ1952Chats (2332)
• Anderson, Indiana
20 Jan 13
It sounds to me as if Dearra is angry and upset about her own life and is taking it out on her little brother. It might be good to get some counseling as a family to figure out how to best fix things before all of you become totally dysfunctional. That will take some very honest expression of all of your feelings, and it won't be easy, but it will be worth it. For one thing, Dearra might be accusing Cary of being a baby--as well as doing things (such as grabbing his glasses) that would make him end up doing things (such as crying) that get associated with babyhood. She might resent that he can get away with more things for the simple reason of being the baby of the family, so she's punishing him by saying (not in direct words but through her bullying) that, if he's going to get the privileges of being a baby, he's going to also be forced to act like a baby.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Jan 13
Dearra is angry all the time, and she's been in counseling for 3 years now. Not for anger, but for anxiety.
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@celticeagle (159020)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Jan 13
I don't know of any "stupid kid noises" but I guess they come in many varieties. Bullying isn't a good past time. I think this is a perfect time that I would be holding a family meeting and talk about it. Nip it in the bud. I wonder if she is getting some kind of bullying type treatment herself. Kids mirror what they see and experience alot. Ofcourse siblings do go on don't they?
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
Cary is known for making strange noises. She sees that kind of behavior at school, of course. And it very vocal against it usually.
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@celticeagle (159020)
• Boise, Idaho
18 Jan 13
My grandson and daughter too. Strange but not stupid. It is ashame that some kids have to see what other kids are like or lible to do. But that is part of living in society.
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• United States
18 Jan 13
That's what they learn in public schools, unfortunately. If she is acting like that toward her brother, that is likely the sort of thing that she is on the receiving end of at school. I know that she does talk with you, but there may be even more going on with the school than what she has told you.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
Quite possibly. Or maybe her brother is just getting on her nerves. He can be quite annoying.
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@blue65packer (11826)
• United States
19 Jan 13
So glad I don't have any kids at home! I am happy I never had to deal with kids fighting and bullying each other. I love kids but I know I would of been a lousey mom if I kept my son and raised him! Maybe some day he will be part of my life. Until then I am letting him find himself.
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Jan 13
All part of the job (sigh)
• United States
18 Jan 13
Yes I agree with you on this. What seems just like harmless fighting among siblings can most definitely turn into something more. We need more parents like you who not only recognize the start of the problem but one who is willing to take the time w/ her kids to make sure it doesn't get out of hand & turn into something more. That's just good parenting on your part.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
Dearra's your typical teenager, gets all hot and bothered, but once she calms down, we will be able to have a pretty reasonable conversation.
@kokomo (1867)
• Philippines
19 Jan 13
I think that's very common for the kids to bully their siblings. I considered myself and my younger brother bullying each other when we were still a kid. But now, we are already grown ups and there is no room for bullying with each other. I think because before whenever my parents heard us bullying each other , they were calling our attention and scolded us and told it was a bad habit.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Jan 13
This is a little beyond scolding. Cary is younger and weaker and has a disability.
@Mavic123456 (21898)
• Thailand
19 Jan 13
ohhh these are kids stuff.. hahaha but then it is now quite alarming knowing the ages of your children they are teenagers already. Yes, there must be something to be reinforced here because it might something else in the future. the younger one lose her confidence and the eldest run her powers over the younger ones. Good thing you have grasps with your children. Very good mother.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
19 Jan 13
The younger one has autism too, and that puts him at a disadvantage.
@Mavic123456 (21898)
• Thailand
20 Jan 13
nevertheless your patience and skills as a mother will really be tested with these children. hahaha and looks like doing it great.!
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@1corner (744)
• Canada
18 Jan 13
With children, bullying can still be curbed, especially if stopped before they get to their teen years. But what do/can you do when it's the parents who bully/harrass their children, and they think they're in the right, i.e. won't listen to others who tell them otherwise?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
When the parents do it, it's that much harder to stop the children from doing it.
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@katsmeow1213 (28717)
• United States
18 Jan 13
Oh you'd probably love spending a day with my kids, LOL. The oldest is bossy.. seems to think he's in charge all the time, even when I'm home. The youngest has a potty mouth.. says terrible things and I don't know where he hears them. Apparently one day recently he called the 6 year old "numb n*ts". I swear but not like that, no clue! And it's really hard to get him to stop.. he's kind of always done it, and the other kids laugh at him when he does it so he thinks it's funny. The 6 year old is overly sensative, to a point it even gets on my nerves half the time. My 10 year old son thinks the oldest is his hero and tries to act just like him.. but the oldest is the biggest pain in the neck on the planet. He's mouthy and has that typical teenage attitude and doesn't think he should have to lift a finger. The daughter is a complete drama queen and completely hates her life because she has too many brothers and doesn't like a single one of them. I keep hoping some day they'll grow out of it and get along.. like when they're all grown and on their own.. but they all swear when they get on their own they won't keep in touch with each other or with me.. and none of them plan on having kids either.. so much for my hopes of each of them having 5 kids just like themselves! Then again, do I want 25 grandkids??
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
Um, this too shall pass?
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
Not quickly enough. I was such a difficult child myself, that at least one of my aunts laughed her azz off when she heard I was having twins.
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• United States
18 Jan 13
So they say.. I guess we'll see.
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@mentalward (14691)
• United States
18 Jan 13
This just proves what I just read and what I've known since I had my second son: [i]Having one child makes you a parent. Having more than one child makes you a referee.[/i] Don't fret too much, they WILL grow up and move out!
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
yeah, I know...
@Angelpink (4035)
• Philippines
18 Jan 13
I loved what Mentalward said , "having one makes you a parent and two makes you a referee ". Maybe petty fight within the family is but normal , in here children also learn some values , like tolerance , expressing emotions and views. Parents must be careful in being a referee , they must be fair in pacifying things , must be careful not to side anyone because some parents have favoritism , that whenever they settle the fights like they are siding one child . This is unfair and this can wound a child that she will be bringing all throughout life. Children's emotion are very fragile , it must be handled with utmost care. Good day !
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@verolop29 (1096)
• United States
21 Jan 13
I'm not going to say kids will be kids because for one she is a kid but for the 16 year old she is not a kid, She is a young adult and for her actions there are going to be consequences. I don't know if she's aware of that but she should be. I don't think u should wait for 'next time' because it could get worse.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Jan 13
hope not
@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
18 Jan 13
Kids, kids, kids.... At least you caught it. How old are your kids? I have just one, a 14 year old boy named mIguel....
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
Dearra, age 16, Cary and Naomi, age 12. Cary has autism...
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• Mexico
18 Jan 13
thats great.. I wanted a girl. But never could have another one.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
Well, there are advantages to having only one. But I always felt that it was better for a child to have a sibling, if possible.
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@ZoeJoy (1392)
• United States
18 Jan 13
Sometimes siblings need to be separated so that they can appreciate each other. Is Dearra the older child. She needs to have a life of her own. Put her in sports or something to wear off all her energy.
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@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Jan 13
Dearra's the oldest, and she hates sports. She does have a life of her own, but this happened at the dinner table when they were all together.
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