Here's what I was talking about

@dawnald (84146)
Shingle Springs, California
March 12, 2013 10:46am CST
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/01/tammy-duckworth-vawa_n_2792848.html One member of congress so far who has offered to take a pay cut after the so-called sequester went into effect. Maybe it's not much, but what if all of them did. Nothing says "I care" to your constituents more than actually taking an action that affects you personally. Imagine if all the CEO's of companys that are doing layoffs were to take a small pay cut, and their senior executives too. How many jobs might that save?
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@peavey (16876)
• United States
12 Mar 13
I don't know how many jobs it would save if all CEOs took a pay cut or how it would affect the US economy if all of Congress (AND the president) took a pay cut. I do know that it would be good publicity! People would tend to look more kindly upon the "upper class" if they showed in even some small way that they cared about the state of the nation.
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@Taskr36 (13923)
• United States
12 Mar 13
"People would tend to look more kindly upon the "upper class" if they showed in even some small way that they cared about the state of the nation." Unfortunately that has proven to not be true. Just look at Debater. He posted an article about a CEO taking a salary of less than $800 a year, but was more focused on bashing him because he has good stock options. Every single time I show people CEOs that have taken massive paycuts, they just piss and moan about how the CEOs are already rich so it doesn't matter.
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@peavey (16876)
• United States
12 Mar 13
Yeah... you're probably right. There will always be naysayers and complainers no matter what. I wonder, though, if overall, people would begin to see CEOs and politicians as minor enemies instead of major ones as many do now. I can dream.
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Mar 13
It does matter.
@Lakota12 (42681)
• United States
12 Mar 13
I always thought they should and if not that they dont give them selves a rise like they do omost of the time and also if things arent giong right no time off till it is solved andthey also should come to have Ins. the way the rest of us do this should savea lot of money I would think. and that would save jobs in mythinking they shouldnt be layingoff no body buut hireing people
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Mar 13
I can understand not hiring if you are hurting, but I wish there would be more working together to turn the company around instead of this stuff where the guys at the top decide on cuts, and the guys at the bottom are out of a job without ever having been given a chance to be part of the process.
@Lakota12 (42681)
• United States
24 Mar 13
I know that sucks and to get let go with really no other word and probably no reason
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
27 Mar 13
They just tell you it's a reduction in force...
• United States
14 Mar 13
That would be awesome if more CEOs and people in command took pay cuts. It's almost unheard of.
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@crossbones27 (22335)
• Redlands, California
12 Mar 13
I never do get this logic that our country has fallen into. If you want people to make sacrifices you lead by example. Its like a mother having very little food and decides she needs it more than her kids. Its like A Officer in the military doing the same thing to the troops who are fighting a war. That would not happen in either case unless they were a bad mother or officer. Yet our congress and many of our financial leaders are very big reason why we are in this mess. Yet all they do is take it out on people who can't afford it while their pay is unaffected or has gone up even more. I mean congress is in office like 10 days a month and gets paid 100's of thousands of dollars to do exactly what, take are jobs away.
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Mar 13
They're into this whole "cut the deficit" mentality, when they should be focusing on jobs. Even the democrats are buying into it somewhat...
• Redlands, California
24 Mar 13
Exactly, and that is the one thing upsetting me about the media right now too. They keep falling right into right wing talking points instead of keeping the focus on jobs. Democrats are falling for it too. People need to stay focused on the task at hand.
@lelin1123 (15643)
• Puerto Rico
12 Mar 13
That would be so generous of them all but unfortunately most CEO's are greedy and don't care about their country, their employees your anyone else for that matter. The world would be such a better place if more people like this one person from congress thought the same way and all came together for the country on a whole instead of only thinking about themselves.
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@Taskr36 (13923)
• United States
12 Mar 13
Nice work preaching left wing talking points. Of course reality doesn't match up with that. Many CEOs have been giving themselves paycuts as I posted above. Look at the links I provided. Check out the link Debater provided showing one CEO that was making under $800 a year. You should try researching and learning about CEOs rather than believing all the garbage you hear from the left. Most of them donate heavily to charity and do a lot for this country without anyone knowing.
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 13
I just love how you throw the term "left wing" around. @Taskr...
@katsmeow1213 (29043)
• United States
12 Mar 13
That's wishful thinking!
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 13
Not that it would save a few jobs, surely? Probably that they would actually do it!
• United States
20 Mar 13
Yes.. that they'd actually do it.
@artemeis (4069)
• China
14 Mar 13
I believe he is not the first person to do such a thing and CEO's of a number of companies have done this but at the rate of decline, the effort needs to be collective. Unfortunately, that has never happen and the leader's effort is always quite useless when there's not enough follow through. Compared to a collective effort of U$5 per worker per month and U$60 per annum in the entire employed population, I am sure that amount collected could do more than the effort of 1 congressman or CEO.
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Mar 13
No, she's not the first, but you don't see the rest of the congress, especially the ones asking for cuts, doing this.
@natliegleb (5184)
• India
13 Mar 13
ya correct and it sounds to be so funny all the way about ceo talking about layoff,i think this has to go up not down
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Mar 13
Lay off all the ceos? lol
@srisahara (4147)
• Indonesia
13 Mar 13
Yes you are right, what happen if all member of the congress do the same action, of course there are many people or constituents that are disadvantaged. If you have power you can remember them to avoid these actions and more respect to their constituants.
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Mar 13
Those in power are often pandering to large corporations rather than their constituents.
@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
12 Mar 13
That would save a lot. But that would save more jobs if Obama's minions did not put so much red tape and restrictions, forced the employers to offer Obamacare, and did not give entitlements to those who decided to have babies just to get welfare. However it is a good start. I never thought that someone has to give up their job or take a pay cut, but I would be all for getting rid of waste and duplication, plus all that pork. Yes, and the Obamas since they are all for environmental can save money by turning off the lights in the White House when not using them, and other such savings.
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Mar 13
Obamacare was a compromise that benefited the insurance companies and the medical suppliers more that the people, I am afraid. But if you were to propose universal health coverage, people would start screaming "socialism"...
@jillhill (37383)
• United States
12 Mar 13
Yes...and most of them are so overpaid that its rediculous...I know alot of CEO"s are given big money because of the headaches that come with the job....or trying to save a company...but they are given way more then anyone needs...with perks they could bank some of it and share!
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
23 Mar 13
Many of them are, and then when they sink the company in a hole, they are given a lovely package to leave...
@GardenGerty (105281)
• United States
12 Mar 13
Dawn that would involve doing something unselfish. I wonder how many people would do that. I have seen or heard of companies that did and it seems that it usually turns around a negative trend for the company when leadership does that. I would hope if our national leadership were to provide the example it would turn around the economy here as well.
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 13
There are some, but I would bet it's a minority.
@savypat (20246)
• United States
12 Mar 13
Instead of standing there shaking their heads and saying we know there must be cuts but not in my area, if only more would step forward and say I'll make the first cut, my pay. I love this story.
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 13
Unselfishnes breeding more unselfishness, what a thought.
@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
12 Mar 13
I think the gesture with Congress would be largely symbolic of the need for every one to cut down but it terms of actual savings it will not make much of a diffence. I also thj9nk tyhat sme CEO's of some companies should take large pay cuts
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@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 13
Some of them are, apparently. But rather than somebody slinging around links showing that some CEOs have taken pay cuts, I'd love to see some numbers on how many CEOs actually are.
@Taskr36 (13923)
• United States
12 Mar 13
"Imagine if all the CEO's of companys that are doing layoffs were to take a small pay cut, and their senior executives too." Many of them are already doing just that and have been for years. The left wing media just doesn't cover it enough because it flies in the face of their anti-business rhetoric. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/money/companies/management/2010-04-02-many-ceos-took-a-pay-cut-in-2009_N.htm http://abcnews.go.com/Business/bosses-pay-cuts/story?id=17209062 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323539804578262080137562590.html Some senators and congressman WANT to cut their pay, but it's actually unconstitutional. I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. Still the legislation is being pushed so it would affect the next congress. http://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2013/03/senators-want-cut-congressional-pay/61658/ Aside from that, some senators have cut their operating budgets even before sequestration. Rand Paul has cut his by 18% two years in a row. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/02/21/rand-paul-returns-more-money-to-treasury/
• United States
12 Mar 13
Taskr, the CEO's who are taking pay cuts, or very small amounts of money are usually compensated with stock options that are worth hundreds of millions. http://management.about.com/b/2013/03/04/groupon-ceos-golden-parachute-misleadingly-small.htm WOW, congress fighting to cut the NEXT congresses pay. How much do you want to bet that this NEVER sees that light of day? "Aside from that, some senators have cut their operating budgets even before sequestration. Rand Paul has cut his by 18% two years in a row." And some are paying bonuses: Three republican representatives who rail against federal employee pay gave their staff bonuses. "http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/06/27/congressional.bonuses/index.html"
@Taskr36 (13923)
• United States
12 Mar 13
"Taskr, the CEO's who are taking pay cuts, or very small amounts of money are usually compensated with stock options that are worth hundreds of millions." I don't see what's wrong with that. We're talking about a CEO that got paid less in a year than minimum wage workers get in a month. The stock options ensure that his wealth is tied to the success of the company. If it tanks, those stocks aren't worth crap. "And some are paying bonuses" And that's something that should be stopped completely. In non-profit organizations, such bonuses are actually illegal. The government should function the same way. If they have enough spare cash for bonuses, it should be returned to the treasury the same way Rand Paul did it. Again, non-profits are actually required to keep such money in the company so the government should do the same.
@dawnald (84146)
• Shingle Springs, California
20 Mar 13
Bonuses commensurate on performance - I don't see anything wrong with that.