Why Do Christians Interpret Prophecy like We're Still Jews?

@mythociate (15179)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
March 30, 2013 8:22pm CST
You recall that--when Jesus Christ lived among His disciples--they all thought that 'one o` those days' Jesus was gonna break out the arsenal & rise against the Roman Empire. And you remember what actually happened---there was no assertive assault, but rather Christians were given 'the inner strength' to survive through the Roman Occupation until it crumbled. So why do Christians largely agree that Jesus next 'visit to Earth' will be thronged with bloodshed & warfare? Did we not learn to 'adjust our interpretation' from the way the original Apostles misinterpreted it?
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@Pegasus72 (1901)
1 Apr 13
I don't think it was misinterpreted but some preachers may preach things wrong, which leads others onto the wrong path.
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@mythociate (15179)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
1 Apr 13
What do you think the disciples were expecting from Jesus? Warfare! Did they get it? No! So why do WE expect warfare in OUR future?
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• United States
1 Apr 13
Pegasus, I can't even read the "left behind" books.. they may have one or two things somewhat correct, but that would be about it. (I wrote a book and self published it, on Bible 'end' times prophecy. Some things in the Book of Revelation and also Daniel [namely 12:11,12] I simply cannot see how they are missed by all the experts! I also write about it on my blog http://inner-monastery.blogspot.com )
@Pegasus72 (1901)
7 Apr 13
It all has to do with how they perceive things to happen. Only God knows how it will happen.
• Philippines
1 Apr 13
Hello there mythociate, I never such not unless you must have heard a wrong preaching about the return of Christ. Actually when you speak about prophecy, it is given to people of God but the Word of God clearly talks about the end times and what will happen. The return of Christ will happen that no one will know except God the Father. The topic about rapture and tribulation has different interpretations but as I have told you, just stick on the Word of GOd, the Bible and you won't get lost into it. The book of Revelation is an interesting one plus the book of Daniel speaks of it clearly but with in depth study and interpretation from the people of God.
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@mythociate (15179)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
1 Apr 13
No, it doesn't. It's the imaginings of writers on a similar pattern. And it's not really clear on what it's the end-times of---my entire universe, or your entire universe?
• United States
1 Apr 13
..end of man's empires.. and Babble-On the confusion which is the foundation and psyche of them..
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@PastorP (1174)
• United States
6 Apr 13
You asked... So why do Christians largely agree that Jesus next 'visit to Earth' will be thronged with bloodshed & warfare? Revelation 19 and Joel 3 to name a couple.
@mythociate (15179)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
6 Apr 13
And how do THOSE writings outdo humans' common sense?
@PastorP (1174)
• United States
6 Apr 13
:) ? Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith YHWH.
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@mythociate (15179)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
22 Apr 13
"saith YHWH" ... TO the prophet Isaiah! Whose to say YHWH can't disagree with Isaiah's (or some other prophet's) interpretation of His Word? And Jesus' disciples had JUST AS MUCH evidence that JESUS would bring about a huge military-action against Rome. The 'common sense' I'm talking about is 'asking how we don't learn FROM SCRIPTURE how much a mistake it is to think WAR is some sort of "sign of end-times"'?
@joliefille (3696)
• Philippines
31 Mar 13
Good question. For some reason I think Christians especially the Roman Catholic ones were subliminally preconditioned to think that Jesus' second coming would pan out in the same way it did before. Jesus was an Essene and warfare was absolutely not part of their religious mission. Most people fail to realize that it is the Christ spirit that's present in us and we just need to attune to that. I don't understand why people are so attached to the physical Jesus and forget the essence of what he taught. Bloodshed and warfare is so far-fetched from his teachings about loving another.
• United States
24 May 13
@uncle Doc J Then how do you think salvation comes? Do you think you are good enough to get into heaven? Are you perfect?
@mythociate (15179)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
25 May 13
@work4kids2007 (It's "@mythociate") I think we're BORN with salvation, and we choose to throw it away in favor of "conquest." (You'll recall, the very reason we NEED salvation is because we choose 'good for ourselves now' over 'better for everyone in the long run'---as exemplified by Eve (& then Adam) choosing 'looks like it tastes good' over 'following the rule.') It may sound a little "Muslim," but it doesn't matter whether I think I'm good or -know I'm not good. I don't even know where we came up with this whole fantasy-land called Heaven. Is it one of the "heavens" G*d created when "In the beginning, G*d created the heavens & the earth"?
• United States
25 May 13
@mythociate I am sorry to offend you on typing the wrong name. You are decieved greatly. Man was perfect until he went against G*d. Then at the fall, there are many prophecies to fix the problem. Jesus knew his purpose was to die. Those of old looked toward the future Messiah and those since Jesus looked to the cross for their salvation. It says in the old testament that his own would not accept Jesus when he was here on earth but at the time of the end they will. G*d will stand up for children, even when everyone else stands against Israel. It will happen. Nothing no human being does or says will change what G*d does. No one is an equal or better than him. We aren't perfect but He is. That is a lie of the devil. I was not born into salvation I chose the gift of salvation. My life is so much better with Him than without Him. No matter what you think of us Christians, you can't take away from our relationship with Christ. I will say no more.
• United States
24 May 13
I have been studing what others say and the history of the time in how it is meant in the time it is written. There are many out there that disagree but still can love each other in the process. What we need to keep in mind is what The Bible actually says and the context of the day. Also take a look at not just what Christians are saying but what rabbis say about the old testament and look at their cheif adversary in religion. The Muslims messiah, the mahdi, is the antichrist of The Bible. Amazing huh? There so much out there to learn about prophecy and can study it until The Lord comes. That is what makes The BIBLE AWESOME.
@mythociate (15179)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
24 May 13
@work4kids2007 "The Muslims messiah, the mahdi, is the antichrist of The Bible." ... Hmm. "Christ" means 'the Anointed One & His Anointing.' 'The Anointing' is partly "on whomsoever G*d places it," but most-immediately "on whomsoever YOU THINK HE'S PLACED IT"; and "the antichrist" is anyone who demands that The Anointing be placed on Himself before you SEE that it belongs on Him. G*d does The Anointing, but YOU do The Appointing (even if all you do is 'acknowledge that others have done The Appointing). And didn't an apostle write that "there are MANY antichrists"?
• United States
24 May 13
@Uncle Doc J Yes they did. Would you rather me call him "the dragon" as it is in Rev 12? It sounds to me that you are angry at God, christians and what anyone has to say supporting that point of view. Antichrist just means anyone against The Christ or The Messiah.
@mythociate (15179)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
27 May 13
@work4kids2007 I am a little angry at (and only at) Christians who perpetuate the falsehood that G*d's power is held only by supernatural beings (whom we apparently must wither in supplication-to in order for them to like us). As long as we maintain that Jesus is Our Brother, G*d is Our Father---not 'our great-great-grandfather from ancient days gone by,' not 'the CEO of the family business who arranges that all our paychecks get distributed fairly'; but Our Abba--Daddy--who holds our hands as we walk with Him ... who carries us on His shoulders through the times we only see one set of footprints behind us.
@flowerchilde (12520)
• United States
31 Mar 13
It's what the book says, 2 Thess 1:7 for example. Rev 13:13 & 6:12 are the opening of atomic warfare, after which it is paused for a duration. There's 2 resurrections. Ultimately all are reconciled to God/Life. All, and many verses also say that. God's judgment is mostly (all) results of man's doings and history.
@mythociate (15179)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
1 Apr 13
Does it say you have to die to be resurrected?
• United States
1 Apr 13
yes.. yet again, when Christ returns, is when the 1st resurrection occurs, but those believers who are alive will also be "raised up" or "caught away" - "so shall we meet the Lord in the air and ever be with the Lord" 1 thess 4
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@mythociate (15179)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
6 Apr 13
So you DON'T have to "die" to be resurrected (I mean yes, you have to 'die to the desires of the world' or whatever; but after you've done that?)?