Oma is so annoying omg...

@dawnald (85130)
Shingle Springs, California
April 16, 2013 12:10pm CST
Saturday and Sunday R's mom took the kids shopping for things to wear for our niece's wedding. Dearra didn't want to go Saturday, because she already has a dress. Her grandmother wasn't happy because it was "black", but I told her it had a lot of green in it. Dearra found the dress, and tried it on, and granny approved, so she didn't have to go dress shopping. Naomi went and got a skirt and blouse, and Cary went just to go (he had a nice shirt and pants that I had bought for a band concert). That was Saturday. Sunday the girls went shopping for shoes. As usual, Dearra found a pair quickly, and Naomi and her grandmother dawdled around looking for all the choices. Dearra was on her period, and it got pretty painful, and she told her grandma she wanted to go home, she was in pain. Grandma (Oma) looked at her and said, "I'm in pain too" (arthritis) and continued looking around. By the time they got home, Dearra was livid. Not in pain any more, but just furious that her grandmother didn't listen to her and take her home. I got one of her loudest rants, calmly offered her a Tylenol and something to eat, and she eventually calmed down. Later she apologized to me. Do you think her grandma should have listened and taken her home, or should Dearra just have sucked it up and dealt with it?
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@much2say (53918)
• Los Angeles, California
16 Apr 13
Maybe it's the generation? I know my mother in law is all about kids needing to do as the adults say - suck it up and deal as you said. But still. Oma could have been nicer about it. At least ask her how much pain she was in, or find a place for her to sit if she wanted to continue shopping that badly. Or perhaps look for some Tylenol or something in her purse to help her. It wasn't very cool how she brushed her off like that. I remember my cousin's family took all of us to Lion Country Safara when I was a little kid. It was super hot there, and I was seriously thirsty. I asked my chinsy aunt-by-marriage if I could have something to drink . . . and she told me to swallow my spit. Really? And she meant it - I never got anything to drink! That's just the way she was - and guess what - I never had too much faith in that aunt about anything (not just because of that incident - there were many more). I don't blame Dearra for her rant - I would have felt the same way!
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@BarBaraPrz (45437)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
16 Apr 13
Her name wasn't Audrey by any chance? I had a friend who used to tell her kids the same thing.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
Ha, at least you got to go to Lion Country Safari. Seriously, I can just hear Dearra's rant about that one!!!
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@much2say (53918)
• Los Angeles, California
16 Apr 13
BarBaraPrz Ha ha - no it wasn't - but hard to believe there are people who would say things like that to a little kid! Dawn Well I think part of the problem was that my Aunt wanted to take everyone out to Lion Country Safari because my cousins had come out from Japan. I happened to be sleeping over my other cousin's house and I happened to become the unintended outing guest. So I guess I used up the "drink" funds by her having to pay admission for me.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
16 Apr 13
I would have immediately taken her home and head back to the Malls with Naomi to get the shoes. Oma was very insensitive as I can still remember what a period pain felt like - so painful and then all of me just ached and ached.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
Last month it was so bad she was crying...
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
16 Apr 13
Sometimes I would throw up and faint. Disappeared when I had a baby - not that I recommend this as a cure for Dearra
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Apr 13
She wouldn't go for that one anyway...
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@GardenGerty (157485)
• United States
16 Apr 13
Dearra should have a pill box in her purse for occasions like this. Grandma should listen, and acknowledge her pain instead of making it all about her. Both should give a little bit. It is not an every day or every month occurrence that they shop for something for a wedding, so maybe D could have been a little more patient. Her anger and anxiety made the pain even worse. Grandma needs to realize that young people are people too. I have waffled all over your discussion, but it just seems to me that both of them could have been more reasonable.
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
16 Apr 13
she probably wasn't in pain prior to leaving. She is a teen and well, that says it all. She probably wasn't thinking it was going to take so long nor was she anticipating her pain ahead of time. Any type of illness could come on suddenly. I stand by my response. The gram should have wrapped it up and taken dearra home. Her granddaughter is uncomfortable and tired ...take her home.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
Dearra doesn't carry a purse, but I agree, if she had spoken up about her period before she left, I could have given her some Tylenol to take with her. She will have to learn to plan better.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
No, I'm sure she wasn't. And I wouldn't have thought of it at that age. I learned the hard way...
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@sid556 (30960)
• United States
16 Apr 13
I am a gram. I understand that it is possible that Dearra may not have been clear as to how much pain she was in but she DID say she was in pain. If it were my grandaughter, I would have called it a day and taken her home and either gone back with Naomi or gone out again on a different day. I try to create happy memories with my grandchildren for them as well as myself. Dearra is not going to look back on this day as a fun outing with Gram and worse ...she is apt to remember it as Gram not caring about how she felt. Shame on Oma!
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
I think that is exactly how she felt.
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• United States
16 Apr 13
Your ex's mother sounds like a very self-centered woman. Dearra would have been well within her rights to give her an earful. Next time, Dearra should either raise H*** until she gets what she needs or give her father a call and demand that he come and pick her up posthaste. She shouldn't take it out on you, though.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
She's actually very giving,but sometimes she gets really obsessed about what has to be done, especially if it has to do with appearances.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
Yup, agreed
• United States
16 Apr 13
Being giving shouldn't come at such a cost to the recipient. When someone says that they are in pain--especially when the person is a child or teenager--that should be understood and honored. Adults often train ourselves to work through the pain; we often have no choice. However, Dearra is still young. Let her develop her coping methods for pain over time rather than be forced to suffer due to someone's obsessive "need" to shop.
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@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
16 Apr 13
If my granddaughter was in any type of pain and wanted to go home I would have stopped everything I was doing to take her home. Menstral pain is horrible and all you want to do is be in bed. I'm so surprised by her actions being a grandma. Then again I had two grandmas that were not very nice to me. I guess that is why I overdo for my grandkids. Dearra should had been taken home and left the shopping for another day.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
Grandma tends to get obsessed, but yeah I think she should have taken her home.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
16 Apr 13
I used to bleed a lot in my periods and when I had my renter, she had to stay in bed and could not go out, and was in so much pain when she had her periods. So of course, Dearra should have been allowed to go home. They can shop another day.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
17 Apr 13
Sounds rather silly. Maybe Oma does not like the shoes Dearra bought. I would have shopped by myself or someone the same age.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
plus I think they were pretty much done and Oma kept pulling out other shoes after she had already chosen
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Apr 13
They were higher than Oma thought was appropriate, I think. But Dearra was just done.
@BarBaraPrz (45437)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
16 Apr 13
Oma should have offered her a Tylenol. And Dearra should have more patience with Oma.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
yup yup.... Oma means well and Dearra is short on patience...
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@cotruelove (1016)
• Denver, Colorado
16 Apr 13
Hello friend, thanks for the discussion. Since I was one of the unfortunate teenagers who suffered with cramps longer than most, I sympathize with Dearra. I had a full 7 day heavy period and pain from before until it ended. However, I also learned that the world really doesn't care if you are in pain, they expect you to manage it. I know no one walks around broadcasting they are on their period and it is embarrassing to say the least just to be in pain. I never had anyone sympathize with me or change any plans because of it. Once I grew up and went out into the working community, I learned they didn't care either and expected you to deal with it regardless of how miserable you were and to do it gracefully and pleasantly. Fortunately, I was like clockwork and knew exactly when to expect it and when to expect it to end. My mom didn't care, it wasn't up to her to keep up with my period and she was so much older than me that when I started having periods she was already past menopause. Perhaps, Dearra needs to keep up with her own body a little better and should have taken whatever was necessary to not destroy anyone else's trip or stayed home. I'm sure her grandma was as annoyed with her as she was with grandma. Grandma probably felt like Dearra was being a drama queen and ruining everything. Grandma has been there, done that, and probably thought it is about time for Dearra to grow up and deal with it just like grandma has had to do all her life. The hard part is for you to be put in the middle of it all because you are mom and daughter. You were right to help Dearra AFTER she got home. But hopefully, Dearra learns the life lesson about taking care of herself better. She has only encountered the first of many times when people will not respond to her pain, whether it be her grandma or some one else. I know many times I had to ask to go sit in the car while others were shopping or taking care of business because I was in so much pain. It is a problematic situation that requires Dearra to grow up and deal with it in a grown up manner. Had she asked to go to the car, perhaps, Oma might have paid more attention. But that might have meant that Dearra put her purchase back which I'm sure would create a quandary for her. Good luck trying to deal with both Oma and Dearra, especially if they both feel they are right.
• Canada
16 Apr 13
Yes, I found that people didn't understand the severity of my period pain either. I met very few people in my lifetime that got it as bad as I did, so they often simply didn't believe me, because they never got it as bad. I was prescribed Tylenol 3's from the age of 11, since Ibuprofen upset my stomach badly and Tylenol extra strength didn't do squat! I spent 1 week every month, stoned out of my gourd for a week in school, but I was an empty vessel, too stoned to do much, and when they wore off, too much pain to do much. Thank goodness I was an honour student so it never affected my grades, as I was always able to catch up.
• Canada
16 Apr 13
Yes, I found that people didn't understand the severity of my period pain either. I met very few people in my lifetime that got it as bad as I did, so they often simply didn't believe me, because they never got it as bad. I was prescribed Tylenol 3's from the age of 11, since Ibuprofen upset my stomach badly and Tylenol extra strength didn't do squat! I spent 1 week every month, stoned out of my gourd for a week in school, but I was an empty vessel, too stoned to do much, and when they wore off, too much pain to do much. Thank goodness I was an honour student so it never affected my grades, as I was always able to catch up.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
Oma's my ex's mom. She's a sweetheart, but sometimes she gets obsessed about getting the task at hand completed. Dearra does need to learn to plan better and to be less sensitive. I remember in college I cancelled something because of my period (it seems to have been worse when I was nervous in retrospect), and the MALE professor chewed my butt out the next day. The other student involved in the project gave me a big lecture (psychology student) about how I was defensive (because I was crossing my arms). No, I was angry because I had just gotten chewed out. lol Nope, people don't care about other people's pain generally.
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@katsmeow1213 (28717)
• United States
16 Apr 13
Poor kid.. yes she should have been brought home!
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
I wonder if she was really quiet about it and didn't get her point across that she was really hurting.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
21 Apr 13
Rot, a child does not get to dictate to an elder how things are going to happen.
@celticeagle (158702)
• Boise, Idaho
16 Apr 13
Saturday sounded good. I think Grandma did fine. Let Dearra be livid. People aren't always going to drop what they are doing and hurry her home because she is in pain. Women all over the world are having periods and running marathons, and who knows what all. She needs to learn now that she might need to think ahead alittle. Take some Tylenol with her or even take some before she goes. Good learning experience. I am all for taking it with you, having some in your purse, taking some before I go cause I have arthritis too.
• Canada
16 Apr 13
Dawnald....Are you saying she isn't allowed to take her painkillers to school with her? Even Tylenol extra strength? Is there a ban? Or couldn't she get some from the school nurse?
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
I learned that one the hard way. She can't bring it to school though. Also, she doesn't carry a purse.
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@celticeagle (158702)
• Boise, Idaho
16 Apr 13
Maybe she needs to start. Or, a reminder before she leaves.
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@MandaLee (3756)
• United States
16 Apr 13
Poor girl. Yes, she should have taken her home. I hope she feels better soon.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
She was fine when she got home, just angry.
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@velvet53 (22528)
• Palisade, Colorado
16 Apr 13
I think she should have been taken home. I don't like seeing people in pain and why should she be made to suffer longer. The shopping centers weren't going anywhere and they could have went back. I am sorry that Dearra was put through this. Things like this stays with a person.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Apr 13
Grandma apologized and said she didn't realize she was in that much pain. And she was focused on making sure the shopping was 100% done.
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@velvet53 (22528)
• Palisade, Colorado
17 Apr 13
Well if this was ok with everyone then I guess that is it :) Bet she listens the next time.
• Canada
16 Apr 13
Hi Dawn Is Oma hard of hearing? Your poor daughter she could not of enjoyed the shopping trip at all. I think Grandma should of taken her home and they could of went out another time, isn't this the whole part of shopping to enjoy?
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
No, she heard her. She was focused on "must do shopping", "must be ready for wedding", and possibly she also didn't realize how bad Dearra was hurting.
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
17 Apr 13
NOt sure on that one but if they hadnt found shoes they wanted should stay but I hate to shop for shoes so I would found A pair fast and wanted to go home but when out with daughter I have to saty till she is done waste of gas going back and forth
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@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
17 Apr 13
ok
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Apr 13
She did drive an hour to get here, and then it was 1/2 hour each way from here to the mall, so I see your point.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
21 Apr 13
I think it was wrong for Dearra to expect that Oma would drop everything and take them home before they were finished. Dearra could have found a quiet place to sit. Maybe she should carry Tylenol in her bag for such occasions or she could have asked to buy some. I think her expectations were bratty butt then again, it could have been hormonal. Either way, she needs to learn to suck things up and be less self absorbed.
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@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
21 Apr 13
Yeah, I can be. You're not the first person to call me one.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
21 Apr 13
bag?
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
26 Apr 13
Haha. No, I meant Dearra doesn't carry a bag...
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@betlynfrnds (4060)
• United States
18 Apr 13
It sounds like Oma needs a little bit of a thump. Maybe that will knock some sense into her. Dearra was in pain. She should not have had to explain every stinking detail about it. Pain is pain. Grandma was very insensitive to her granddaughter. I say, shame on Oma. Everyone's experience with pain differs. I had a pinched nerve some years ago and it was the most excruciating physical pain I have ever experienced in my life. I couldn't function at all until I went to the chiropractor. That was my extreme case. I've also had sinus headaches minor body aches and the such. They were not extreme at all and I was able to get around fine. Was Dearra's pain more severe than Oma's arthritis? Maybe. Who knows? The point is that when a person is insensitive to another ones real discomfort, I have a definite problem with that.
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• United States
18 Apr 13
Well that's good to know. We all make mistakes but the key is to acknowledge them and try hard to to repeat the same ones over again. Hopefully all is right with your world.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Apr 13
Little worries here and there, but things are mostly pretty good...
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
18 Apr 13
Usually her grandma is very much into whatever the grandkids want, but sometimes she just gets obsessive about things and doesn't pay attention. She came by and apologized later.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
17 Apr 13
ho gosh dawn after rremembering my own cramps as a teen no grandmother should have taken D arra home as those cramps are six times more painful than my arthritis is now,grandmother should have been more sympathetic and offered her some midol,dawn its really hard to suck up that kind of pain when you are a teen maybe an adult could to it but not a teen. Tell her I do feel for her as I used to have them so bad mself. .
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Apr 13
Grandma wasn't thinking, and dearra wasn't speaking up loudly enough...
@vandana7 (98731)
• India
17 Apr 13
Dearra was not speaking up loudly enough for obvious reasons..nobody likes to announce such thing to the whole world. Perhaps Grandma was not thinking...its natural when people age...to avoid change in plans. It will be hard for Dearra to understand it now but someday she will...
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• Canada
16 Apr 13
My period cramps started when I was 11 yrs old, and they were so bad they were like labour pains. The least she could have done was to offer her some Tylenol or Ibuprofen (whichever works for her) for the pain, since that is pretty much all you can do for it. I was prescribed Tylenol 3's because it was so bad. My mother (the grandmother) was the other way...bleeding heart. She would see something wrong with everything I did, fault me for it and the kids were always innocent in her eyes. Totally opposite. But I still think she should have brought her home. You don't want to be out in public when you are in that much pain, and you are too embarrassed to say why you are in so much pain. Plus, it is in your gut, so the only thing that works (even a little tiny bit) is to double over and wait for the painkillers to work....IF they do. Walking around seems to make it worse, I found.
• Canada
16 Apr 13
Only now (2 children later) and menopause trying to set in, and finally the pain is bearable and I don't seem to need much, other than the odd Tylenol extra strength for the first day. Funny thing, after my first child, they stopped, then after the 2nd...started back up again. I almost wanted to have another one in hopes it would stop again....it was THAT BAD! That kind of advice (walking makes it better), is just like a childless person telling you how to raise your kids....NOT A CLUE! lol Also, I think the mentality of that thought was, you needed to make it worse, to get it over with faster. I remember the Phys Ed teacher trying to tell me that and I told her where to go and skipped (with a note) that class when "Aunt Flo" arrived and she tried to tear a strip off me for it. As if.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
I rarely had it that bad, thank goodness. It seemed to be worse when I was stressed.
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
16 Apr 13
When I was a teenager, I was told walking around would help. NOT true!!! Only thing that works for me is tylenol and a half hour's time!
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@allknowing (130067)
• India
16 Apr 13
Any German blood around? I thought Oma is a German word! Atleast that is what I learnt when I was studying German! Now back to your query. Your little girl should have taken it in her stride and finished whatever they had planned for that day. If Oma could put up with her arthritis surely your daughter could too with her problem? Just saying!
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@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Apr 13
MY discussion. I get the last word. (stern look)
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
17 Apr 13
Yup, Oma is German. My worst day with arthritis so far has not been as bad as my worst period. Just saying.
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@allknowing (130067)
• India
17 Apr 13
This debate will never end specially when you are just saying and I am too!
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