Hey, political people

United States
October 3, 2013 7:35am CST
Do you always let your party think for you? I just feel like that is the case for many people. Too much butt kissing going on.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
3 Oct 13
I would tend to agree. People have become so hyper focused on that stupid letter next to an elected official's name, that they will twist themselves in to pretzels to justify anything thy do, no matter how much they disagree with it deep down. The problem is people become emotionally invested in their choice and can't seem to see past that. I do not really follow either of the two main parties, the last guy I would have voted for in the Republican party (Ron Paul) retired last year. I campaign and vote for Libertarian party candidates, when applicable and worthy. In fact, I haven't voted for a D or an R in almost 10 years in national elections.
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• United States
3 Oct 13
I don't blame you. I try and stay out of the party thing altogether which is not easy. The majority of my family is Republican and are very opinionated.
@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
3 Oct 13
@cupkitties Political parties were something George Washington warned about (among other things) in his farewell address. In fact, he is the only president we have ever had that did not belong to a political party.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
10 Oct 13
It's not just that the become emotionally invested, it's also that their world view revolves around certain beliefs, and it is hard to make themselves accept other world views even if the facts support them.
@dawnald (85130)
• Shingle Springs, California
3 Oct 13
People are raised a certain way, and very often their upbringing strongly biases their opinions. they associate with a party based on that, and just follow the party line. Not all. I often find that if you can get past all the finger pointing and biases, you can have a pretty decent discussion, and you often find that the other side and you have a lot in common. Some things are really predictable though. For example, I can almost 100% guarantee that if I'm having a discussion with a Republican, and I mention cutting defense spending, they will immediately get indignant and ask me how I can advocate cutting military salaries. Did I say salaries? Nope, I did not. There is so much waste there. For example, MEADS, an air defense system that has cost us hundreds of billions of dollars, and is apparently never going to be operational. Or the F-35, another couple hundred billion, that is late, over budget, not living up to spec, in short, a failed program. But mention cutting military spending, and the flags go up, people get on the defensive, and watch out. And there is so much propaganda in the media, mainstream liberal, mainstream conservative, and if you only read one or the other you are going to get such a skewed vision of what's going on. Few people are able to think outside the box, and impartially consider other points of view. And even if they try, they may run into my English friend's favorite conundrum, cognitive dissonance, in which, a person's world view is compromised by "the facts" and their brain just won't let them believe it.
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@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
3 Oct 13
What do you mean "let your party think for you"? You KNOW what 'the party' is, yes? A group of other 'people' (presumably just like you ... you did JOIN 'the party' for that reason), yes? If a group of other people just like you finds it convenient to think 'a certain way' about something, isn't it more-convenient to think 'that way' too until extenuating circumstances change your mind?
• United States
3 Oct 13
The problem is that most people would rather turn a blind eye and make excuses whenever said circumstances are the fault of their leaders. Let it be the other guy causing the exact same trouble and then they decide to wake up.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
7 Nov 13
Yeah, but the reason for the party is that political power lies not in 'being right' but in 'agreement.' E.g. if I had a guy or two WITH ME when I decided to slam my shopping-cart into that wrongly-parked guy's van, he wouldn't have been so mean to me (making me limp away with my tail tucked between my legs )
@91zarate (13)
• San Salvador, El Salvador
9 Oct 13
You know. I never imagined that US and my small country could have the same problems. The politicians wandering around and all of that. Did any day will stop this?
• United States
10 Oct 13
It could. In our case most people are either uneducated about how our government is supposed to work or maybe they just don't care anymore. These problems will stop when we stop allowing our government to take advantage of us.