Are 'Christians Today' "Shepherds" or Just "Sheep in the Head of the Herd"?

@mythociate (15963)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
July 21, 2015 1:25pm CST
I ask this on a blog post where I mention how--on a semi-private forum--I talked about 'a fellow Christian's past' and linked to a blog that is 'typically anti-Kenneth Copeland Ministries' (though all of their "complaints" are based in documented facts). I had HOPED to use the semi-private talk to AMPLIFY our following our Father's policy of 'forgiving everything though he KNOWS everything we've done.' But apparently 'another fellow Christian' there felt the need (possibly in reaction to a few disturbed "baa"s in the complaints-section) to protect the herd from it ... as if they're so feeble-minded that they cannot apply God's forgiveness to it themselves. So are we Sheep (mindlessly "baa"-lieving whatever it sounds like Our Good Shepherd would say) or are we Shepherds (leading our Father's sheep the same way Our Brother Jesus did)?
Many words rooted-in/supporting/related-to One Word (Christ ... or whichever word you happen to be thinking-of) Tuesday, July 21, 2015 @CopelandNetwork Trouble at #KennethCopelandMinistries: Shepherds or Sheep (or Both?)? @BVOVTV @KCMCareers Commenting on
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• United States
23 Jul 15
It depends on which type o Christian you are. As an outsider I find many sheep and few Shepherds. The Sheep try to bully me into becoming Just like them. While Shepherds just suggest I try it then let me decide. Isn't the latter like Jesus?
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@owlwings (39882)
• Cambridge, England
24 Jul 15
I can only speak from a personal point of view. I don't see myself (or others) as either a 'sheep' or a 'shepherd'. I feel that, by accepting that Jesus holds a unique mission and asked us to accept God as our Father, I am therefore a brother of Jesus (unworthy though I may be). It is true that one of Jesus' favourite metaphors concerned sheep and shepherding but I don't believe that He really thought of His followers merely as unthinking 'sheep'. He understood, of course, that there are many things about the Kingdom which humans are unable to comprehend and, in that sense, we are as sheep being led by a shepherd. It is not, however, a metaphor which we should dwell on unduly. We are (most of us) intelligent beings with the power of thought and reasoning and we are better able to question the reason for our existence than sheep (presumably) are. I don't believe that we are forbidden to ask questions. Quite the reverse, in fact: it is only by asking for the reasons and logic that we stand any chance of coming to true knowledge and enlightenment. It is just those preachers who, effectively, say "This is what the Bible says, so you just have to accept it as Fact" who we should be wary of. They are not good 'shepherds': they are the kind of shepherd who tries to gather sheep into the fold with kicks and cuffs and barbed wire fences. A good shepherd knows and loves his sheep and calls them to him by the sound of his voice (or his flute, for many shepherds use music to let the sheep know where he is) and they come to him willingly. To the extent that our faith gives us a personal appreciation of God's will and that we are sometimes in a position to advise and guide our fellow humans, we might sometimes be considered 'shepherds' to others but (to remain within the metaphor) a flock of sheep will naturally choose a leader and ewes have a natural instinct to protect and train their lambs to be part of the flock, so each of us is no more a 'shepherd' to others than that, in my view.
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@mythociate (15963)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
24 Jul 15
So I guess at times we're 'sheep with an "evolved" (or "mutated") intelligence,' who can see "where the shepherd is leading us" and so don't want to go there (unless we know there's a good reason for it ... into the slaughterhouse we go willingly because we know that's how we'll provide sustanence for Our Owner as he provides for our future generations). That's how evangelists are sending us to Hell---by filling us with expectations of 'how wonderful The Afterlife will be,' they make "however it actually is" into punishment!
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@inertia4 (27786)
• United States
21 Jul 15
I think lots of those real religious people are sheep's. They always seem to follow whoever it is selling them a bunch of lies. A true leader never follows.
@mythociate (15963)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
22 Jul 15
I'm not talking about 'leaders' (even Lord Jesus said, "I do nothing but what I see Father do before me"), I'm talking about 'followers possessing the ability to discern good from evil.'
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@inertia4 (27786)
• United States
22 Jul 15
@mythociate Real followers cannot see the difference between good and bad. Thats why they are brainwashed.
@mythociate (15963)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
22 Jul 15
@inertia4 Maybe that's why Jesus referred to them as "disciples"---a term from the oldest religion - Buddhism. But many 'Christian'-leaders want people to FORGET that a 'disciple' (almost BY DEFINITION) is being trained as the Master's REPLACEMENT!