Saw a poster that read...

@Rosekitty (19445)
San Marcos, Texas
September 1, 2015 2:48pm CST
Kids who can't read cursive handwriting can't read historic documents. I had no idea since all my children are grown, that they don't have that in the curriculum. I noticed my grandkids ask me what i wrote but always just thought since some are young they are still needing to learn to write. Now i find out it isn't mandatory ..so what is happening?..just a bunch of children printing? Any Teachers who will help here?
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@much2say (38683)
• United States
1 Sep 15
I noticed this early on - so one summer I planned to teach my daughter cursive writing. As she is an advanced drawer anyway, she picked up on it right away - it didn't even take an entire summer. The following year (3rd grade), the teacher was surprised she could already write cursive - and that was the year the kids would learn it in class. But after that, I don't know what happened - I didn't really see cursive being used in 4th - even now in 5th grade! However my daughter still uses it - particularly in her artwork. So whether the folks of the future use it or not, at least she's got that in her pocket!
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@much2say..I try to read and practice with my grands over the summer..at least 1 hour a day..not too much but to get them aware school isn't just with a stranger but family too..i hope i helped them along the way to be better in school each year!
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@Marcyaz (35765)
• United States
1 Sep 15
Good for you Much so at least your daughter knows cursive writing. They change things in the schools and they do not seem to be for the better. The kids now days can't even add or subtract without some type of electronic gizmo. Sad very sad as they should be able to do it in their head.
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@much2say (38683)
• United States
2 Sep 15
@Rosekitty That's wonderful what you do with your grands - it's so easy for kids' brains to go mush over the summer! Plus I think it means a lot to get taught things from family - it shows you care! School doesn't teach as much as they did before . . . it seems to be all about testing to raise the scores for the schools!!
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• United States
1 Sep 15
I'm not a teacher, but heard about it a few years ago at my son's parent/teacher conference. I asked the teachers how are kids going to sign for a loan or mortgage and they said it is done electronically. In fact, a girl who went to school with my daughter bought her house without signing her name. At the time, only my son and one other student could read and write cursive (which he loves since he could write things about other students without them knowing what he wrote). In my opinion, it is another "dumbing down" America technique, after all like you said, the future generation can't read historical documents which means they will not know how to run this country and will more than likely repeat history without even knowing it.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@Carmelanirel2..so sad to see how lazy they are making the kids..so does that mean anyone can steal their credit reports and such if they don't have a unique way of writing their name?
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@Marcyaz (35765)
• United States
2 Sep 15
Carmela, you have made a good point. If the future generation can't read historical documents how will our future leaders be able to run our Countries. The same mistakes will be made over and over again because of not being able to read cursive writing. This is so sad.
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• United States
2 Sep 15
@Rosekitty I don't know, maybe one has to provide lots of paperwork to show they are who they say they are.
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• United States
1 Sep 15
One Phrase "Common Core" which is harmful to the process and then there is "New Math". When the Government supplies the guidelines they would rather not teach the children how to think beyond what will keep them from figuring out what is being done to them.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@Berniezeitler I don't get that new math..what was wrong with the old??..I wonder who comes up with these new rules?..young ones of course..
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• United States
2 Sep 15
I do not agree with all aspects of "Common Core", but there are some good points to it. I admit that some of the ways that they teach children to do math, for example, seem very long and more confusing than the traditional way. However, they teach students multiple ways to solve a problem, and eventually the student is allowed to use whichever method he or she understands and works the best for him or her. That is different from the traditional way in that it acknowledges that there is more than one way to find the solution to a problem and does not take off credit for those that do not conform to "traditional" thinking.
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@howard96h (11663)
• New York, New York
1 Sep 15
With the computer age here and everything in print form cursive writing appears to be a thing of the past. I was told by someone who works for the post office to stop writing out in script the name and address not because many people write sloppy and its illegible but because many new younger workers were never taught how to read cursive writing. So I now print ALL envelopes.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@howard96h..now that is a shame..why change our ways just because these young ones never were taught to understand or write ??? i guess if we want our mail to make it we have to
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@howard96h (11663)
• New York, New York
1 Sep 15
@Rosekitty Yep, either that or we could try carrier pigeon? Hmmm
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@howard96h maybe SOS ????..you will get my package in a year..hahaha with carrier
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@loki1982 (782)
• Dallas, Texas
1 Sep 15
Yes, unfortunately in the last few years that have dropped cursive from our curriculum.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@loki1982..such a sad time for us to have the next generation not knowing how to write but probably computerised everything..
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@kiran8 (15363)
• Mangalore, India
2 Sep 15
@Rosekitty Yes it is already happening...You see the handwrirting and spelling used by the modern day kids and you know that due importance has not been given to both ..
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Sep 15
@kiran8 I agree..so what does this say for modern teaching nowadays?..that the more important things to them are tests ans sports..
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@celticeagle (117156)
• Boise, Idaho
1 Sep 15
Totally weird. I thought I had heard wrong but heard this a while back too. Don't understand it.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@celticeagle..my guess..too much work when they have to study for those state tests..so sad
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• United States
20 Sep 15
they have to "stupid" everything now..not to mention the kids have the attention span of a gnat...
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
20 Sep 15
@scarlet_woman isn't that the truth..I feel sorry for the leaders of the Future
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@topffer (33148)
• France
2 Sep 15
Your first argument is not very pertinent : handwriting has evolved during the centuries, and reading an old cursive from the 15th or 16th C is not easy at all for me, although I spent perhaps a decade of my life among archives. And when I need to read something older, I need to ask a professional to help me times to times when the handwriting is too difficult for me. The education evolves, and if a thing like cursive handwriting is no more taught, it is less important in my mind than to suppress or reduce the teaching of philosophy in high school like it is done in many countries today... Children are learning script, so they know how to write, but if they don't learn philosophy, they will lack some efficient tools to make a better use of their brain.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Sep 15
@topffer..that may be true in France but here we don't have the fancy museums from 1000 or so years ago..so kids here are taught to do sports and tests..2 things i feel unnecessary for learning a skill that can help their brain adjust to many wonders of writing in documents.. Taking out the arts so we can have these uneducated kids make millions on sports is so wrong..The Schools I guess their hands need to play ball instead of a magical skill of writing
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
2 Sep 15
@Rosekitty You have got this nailed! I totally agree with you.
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@Susan2015 (20163)
• United States
1 Sep 15
Every child still needs to be able to write so it's important that not everything is done on a computer at school.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@susan2015..I wish all teachers would fight for what you just said!!
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@Marcyaz (35765)
• United States
1 Sep 15
Susan that is so true that children need to learn other things than on a computer.
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@kaka135 (13992)
• Malaysia
1 Sep 15
I have read discussions about teaching cursive handwriting, and I think it's good to teach kids. I read that learning cursive handwriting is good for brain development too. So, I am going to teach my kids cursive handwriting anyway, though it's not part of the curriculum here. Same goes to Roman Numerals, I think it's good to learn.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@kaka135.I'm teaching my grands roman numerals too plus the cursive..what the school doesn't teach will be our job i guess!!
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@kaka135 (13992)
• Malaysia
2 Sep 15
@Rosekitty Yes, I think the school has actually left out quite a lot, and we need to supplement what we think is good for our children, and grandchildren too. Since I am homeschooling my children, I can choose what's interest me and my children.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Sep 15
@kaka135 good for you..i wish my kids would allow me to home school their kids..
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@allknowing (61550)
• India
2 Sep 15
Cursive writing will soon be history. No one hand writes these days. Sad but true. One will never know how to judge one's character which used to be done by looking at their cursive writing!
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Sep 15
@allknowing..i still write some people but guess it is up to me to do more and everyone knows how to judge me
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@allknowing (61550)
• India
2 Sep 15
@Rosekitty You have always been an exception. Have I judged you correctly without looking at your hand writing
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Sep 15
@allknowing hahhah..now how could you here while i type????
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@1wldngl (3991)
• United States
1 Sep 15
My son's school still teaches it although they don't get it until 6th grade for some odd reason.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@1wldngl..I sure they still do by 6th grade
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@1wldngl (3991)
• United States
2 Sep 15
@Rosekitty He says that they will be required to use cursive from 7th grade on.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Sep 15
@1wldngl good to hear and hope not all of texas needs a good butt whipping!
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@ElicBxn (60762)
• United States
1 Sep 15
I was taught it, but decided in 11th grade I couldn't read my own writing, so went back to printing. I'm not too sure my 29 year old niece knows how....
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@Elicbxn..I'm sure the doctors out there hated cursive too..hahah
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@ElicBxn (60762)
• United States
1 Sep 15
@Rosekitty When my dad retired, they joked that he was going down to Galveston to teach handwriting to the doctors.... that's how BAD his handwriting was. My brother and I both have lousy handwriting. I suspect that my sister worked until she had a prettier one. I didn't care...
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@ElicBxn Funny it was one of the things i wanted to perfect as i got older and now that i have it pretty good, there doesn't seem to be any reason for me to fill out papers except when i apply for something or write letters... Funny about your dad!!
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@thesids (22363)
• Bhubaneswar, India
2 Sep 15
We are heading towards that when we would be no longer be required to write. Looking at how things are shaping up - Use Less Paper - has been promoted world wide (for whatever reasons). We have technology to allow you to write - computers (for documents, emails, accounts etc), Handsets for chats, socializing, texting etc. So sooner or later we are going to be on those lines where we would not be required to write anything as our ancestors (or even a few of our next generations). And I am sure, there would be no need to read historic documents either - as of today, we already have a very small number of people who actually want to become historians or even read about history.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Sep 15
@thesids sad to hear but what you write is the truth and even though i recyckle and use less waste i enjoy the skill of handwriting and sending out cards and letters to those i love and want to pass that on to my grands..
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@thesids (22363)
• Bhubaneswar, India
2 Sep 15
@Rosekitty I still bring in one diary each December (for the next year) and try to write as much as I can. Agreed, it is not a personal diary anymore, but I love to write using pen and paper.
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@jstory07 (65385)
• Roseburg, Oregon
1 Sep 15
the school system figured children did not need to learn curvive hand writing anymore. they firued with compoters they did not need it. How are they going to sign documents.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@jstory..guess everything is electronic now so it helps hackers get into their accounts..no unique way of writing anymore..
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
2 Sep 15
So true Judy. I did not know this about your education system.
• Austin, Texas
1 Sep 15
Didn't know that was happening but it's IGNORANT! What genius educator decided that it wasn't necessary to learn cursive writing??!! Just because digital clocks were invented kids were still taught how to tell time with the long hand and short hand on the clock! No wonder people are opting for homeschooling.
@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@cmoneyspinner...We need to make sure to do the job for them since all they care about is the state tests.. I agree and its almost like they want the next generation to be dumb..
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@cynthiann (18619)
• Jamaica
2 Sep 15
Well said!
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@TLChimes (4842)
• United States
2 Sep 15
I taught all of the kids cursive.... except the youngest two and that is more because of their disabilities not because I think it is pointless. I think cursive is beautiful. My middle will learn it a few years delayed because she will be able to do it I think. Her printing is very nice. The Boy may never learn it but he struggles just to put a mark on a paper some days. He is just, at 8, getting the letters of his name down. He knows them verbally but has no muscle tone in his hand so..... Anyway.... I would have them all know it if I could.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Sep 15
@TLChimes...I think all parents should be teaching it anyway since one never knows what they remove from schools..
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@GardenGerty (96643)
• Marion, Kansas
1 Sep 15
Some of the schools in the area still teach it, I believe. The thought by some people is that it is more important to teach more "academics", just like some schools are omitting art classes. However learning cursive causes better connections in the brain to help kids learn other things. My daughter is homeschooling and teaching her oldest cursive, after printing. Her second one is going to just be taught cursive, based on something she read in some of her studies about writing. Personally, children need to learn many ways of reading and writing in my opinion.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Sep 15
@GardenGerty..I feel they need to learn cursive and I'm also teaching my grands roman numerals..pig latin..just some stuff so they can feel unique
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@cupkitties (6907)
• United States
1 Sep 15
I taught mine how to write in cursive after learning a while back they were talking about not teaching it. My daughter says they just barely went over it in class and yet they still require the students to use cursive to sign papers.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@cupkitties...makes no sense they don't teach them and then expect them to do it?? i sure would be a rebellious teacher..
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• United States
1 Sep 15
I can't imagine anyone not knowing how to write.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@Abbygrenhill..well its going on whether we like it or not.. So teach your children well like the song said
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• United States
1 Sep 15
@Rosekitty No kids - not my thing!
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
1 Sep 15
@AbbyGreenhill well then you don't have to worry about this unless you have nieces or nephews..
@Gwensmom (508)
• United States
2 Sep 15
My daughter learned it, but never had to use it. The most cursive she does is to sign her name on legal papers. But, her school did a pi$$ poor job of teaching any handwriting. They just had the students look at the letters and write what they saw. Didn't really teach proper form. I have no idea why. Now, middle school and high school is mostly computers. All the students are assigned laptops.
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@Rosekitty (19445)
• San Marcos, Texas
2 Sep 15
@Gwensmom..I don't see the importance of teaching computers if they can't write to get a great job that doesn't use them..
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@mommyboo (13198)
• United States
2 Sep 15
And people wonder why everyone's handwriting is so bad now lol. I had to write a LOT when I was a kid. I don't write much any more, most of it IS typing, texting, etc. It's a lot faster, no hand cramps.
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@Gwensmom (508)
• United States
2 Sep 15
@Rosekitty I agree with you. I don't get it. After they got the laptops, some of the parents complained and they talked about getting rid of them. But, they didn't.