And The Point of It All

@artemeis (4070)
China
December 23, 2015 5:56am CST
I wonder if scientists are really looking for answers to solve problems or simply wasting time and most of all, money to prove something useless. I think we've seen and read even how they are coming up with meat alternatives from non livestock but from some combination of cells and what not. Then, we have the "God Playing" genetic engineering where it is messing up our food supplies and the emission problem due to beef breeding and eating. I just feel that the studies are simply not objective enough and that there are better agenda like disease cures and prevention, better breeding methods and non polluting modes of transportation and so on. I mean who is to say that meat eaters will not change their diet preferences over time, or that improved agricultural techniques is not better than GE crops and so forth. These scientists should know better and not waste their time over something which man could not even control to improve the situation and deterioration. What do you think? Are scientists today being wayward?
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• United States
23 Dec 15
I think some of those research projects that are funded are outrageous, not sure if I am responding correctly, but that is what I feel about science research. I do think however that science is very valuable.
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@artemeis (4070)
• China
24 Dec 15
Undeniably and I agree with you that sciences is indeed important for all of us but when they embark on projects that are trying to play God then I think this is where sponsors and the intellectual community should step in and not let them treat our limited scarce resources which proves nothing or does not contribute solutions to the impending problems around us.
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• United States
24 Dec 15
@artemeis I totally agree with your stand on that Artemeis and is what I was trying to put forth. Take care dear friend and happy christmas if you celebrate it.
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@artemeis (4070)
• China
24 Dec 15
@TiarasOceanView Thank you and a Merry Christmas to you too. My office will be exchanging gifts and a Christmas luncheon party at a nearby hotel. My husband's office will be having the dinner party with his company where I'll be attending since spouses and children are being invited.
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@thesids (22357)
• Bhubaneswar, India
23 Dec 15
Going by the scenario of Climate Changes, Global Farming and also less and less people being interested to take up farming, they do need to have alternates ready before the day arrives when there is no production of food (as via farming, the way we know of). I have already heard about some experiments where everything (nutrition) needed can be put up in a capsule and taken in. And even they do not need water for gulping it in. Put it in mouth, chew it and that is all. One capsule for a one balanced healthy meal. When we are heading towards that kind of stuff, they do need to perform experiments. As for your question - Are scientists today being wayward.... they always were. The ones who gave us the inventions and discoveries had to think and go beyond what the normal people could not.
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@thesids (22357)
• Bhubaneswar, India
24 Dec 15
@artemeis I agree with you no doubt. But then - you mention things that are simply not going to happen in the near future. For the first paragraph - You mention illegal dumping etc. Now when the Government(s) is not taking right steps to curb them, how can we expect some people gaining popularity who are working towards these solutions? Definitely, there are many who are working towards it (solving these issues) and maybe that is why some good scientists got the Nobel Prize last year. But yes, it is the corporate world that controls things and as such, despite the hard work these people did, there are practically no takers. I know some people have been working on fuel-less automobiles, but tell me which major country's government makes it legal? Again, it is the big corporate world behind the scene. On the agriculture part - yes, there is lot of scope in terms of irrigation, and taming conditions. But then, either these are done on a pilot basis and yet to be adopted by the masses or again, there is some other thing behind the scenes. However, it would be wrong to say that they are not working on these. The last one, where you say the S&E are playing God - yes, these are the ones that get highlighted - there are takers who play on these and make their monies. And amidst all this Gender Liberation, LGBT etc. Activists have a bigger say - so definitely, these are known - stopping them((or preventing them)will only damage the image of the people in power - social media is much stronger today and news spreads faster than lightning. And not many people in power want to risk the wrath of the masses - who are kind of sheep - led anywhere by anyone.
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@artemeis (4070)
• China
25 Dec 15
@thesids It is sad that things get messed up when politics is involved but we couldn't do without them either. I'd like to say that though the E&S may have been ongoing or completed, it is just all choked at the bottlenecks created by red tapes and incompetence as illustrated by you. Then there are the inadequacies where fuel-less motor vehicles are facing the mortality rate of the batteries used by the vehicles and the proper disposal of them. So again, I would still ask why aren't more scientists involved here where it is needed. Hence, my post here on how wasteful and wishful thinking some scientists are when they try to play God than help solve the impending problems of today.
• Calgary, Alberta
24 Dec 15
PETA is basically funding these scientists because they want humans to stop killing animals. I think PETA is funding "SCHMEAT" it is basically meat created from stem cells of living animals that were not killed. I have nothing againts animals but Vegans forcing veganism to everyone is a very wild dream of theirs that will never come true.
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@artemeis (4070)
• China
25 Dec 15
No offense but I am really against forcing or coercing (even) people into becoming vegan. I feel that we should be balance with whatever we eat especially when it is the best health advocate for all of us.
• Calgary, Alberta
26 Dec 15
@artemeis Some vegans leads to violence just to force their beliefs. They were responsible for terrorist attacks againts animal testing laboratories to save laboratory mice. Those laboratories are for Cancer and diabetes research.
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@artemeis (4070)
• China
26 Dec 15
@CaptAlbertWhisker I am never a supporter of violence and much more against acts of terrorism. It is sad and even disgusting to see just what this group had done which really is never related in their so called caused. Sad indeed. But again, scientists should be conscientious with their undertakings and not be frivolously wasting our precious and scarce resources.
@Bluedoll (17050)
• Canada
23 Dec 15
Is it possible that scientists keenly interested in science seek funding from sources that might be only concerned with profit or solving a problem that will save them money in the future? Perhaps reports can come out because of good conscience but actual solutions to solve the really big problems don't always have the backing required to make them happen?
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@artemeis (4070)
• China
24 Dec 15
I don't deny what you mentioned could be actually happening without our knowledge but it should be in these intellectuals and their community to decide with their conscience. Afterall, they are co-existing with us in these harsh and hazardous environment which is caused by us. Playing up to some pacifists and trying to become God is simply unnecessary and unthinkable for how can one live life when we keep studying it, where at the end of the day we find ourselves living "unnaturally".
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@Bluedoll (17050)
• Canada
24 Dec 15
@artemeis Hello friend, I'm finding the world to be less and less natural and normal everyday. We are all part of the earth. Everything is happening is for a reason. In our artificial living we might think we are safe but it is only artificial. I don't think science can fix the problems by itself but rather a complete cooperation must occur which might be another very complicated problem given the history of man on our planet.
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@artemeis (4070)
• China
25 Dec 15
@Bluedoll I really have to agree with you and I could not feel safe these days, like today one of my girls came back with cartons of orange juice (100%) and in my understanding of such a labeling the juice would be "freshly squeezed" and packed. Instead, I find it alarmingly in the fine prints that one of the ingredients involved "Concentrated orange juice" which is really nothing but syrups with sugar and so much more. And some of these scientists are still meddling instead of shifting gears to get into some serious work.
• United States
21 Apr 16
I think science is a wonderful field and I appreciate those that seek answers to questions that involve the improvement of conditions in places that have no resources and I am grateful technology is advanced from the ancient days; however it is far out of control when compromising a few to help the masses, as the masses become immobilized by contamination, greed, poverty, deceit, disease and all of the things we know are destroying the human race. But I have to say without science there are not enough other platforms to stand on where greatest potential for survival is addressed . . .
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• United States
26 Apr 16
@artemeis if we could just separate science from religion, the benefits could be accepted so much easier. GOD was also created by man, remember Abraham ?
@Beatburn (3940)
• Philippines
24 Dec 15
I have always been doubtful of GMOs. Then again, we have been eating them for several years. Many of the food we have are processed and modified.
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@artemeis (4070)
• China
26 Dec 15
I do agree with you and it is ever so much more for these scientists to focus on their E&S into providing more solutions here. Trying to become God and fix things that really does not need fixing in the first place is simply a waste of time and our limited resources.
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@softbabe44 (5899)
• Vancouver, Washington
24 Dec 15
It's hard to say what the scientists are up to.
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@artemeis (4070)
• China
24 Dec 15
I'm sure they (scientists) need to declare what they are pursuing to their sponsors or community before commencing the studies. It is better to have some regulating here since resources are scarce and some studies could be highly dangerous or outright wasteful.