Do you write your own discussions, or rewrite articles from the Internet?

@JolietJake (51144)
United States
January 18, 2016 11:42am CST
I've always written my discussions showing my opinion of how I feel about a subject. I may use quotes from an article, and if I do, I give a link to that article. But I always make the discussion my own, and original. I don't think taking facts from an article, and rewording them, not adding any of your own thoughts, and then posting it, qualifies as a valid discussion per the guidelines here. But I see it quite often. And I tend to avoid those 'discussions'. What is your opinion? Do you think a discussion with no original material qualifies as a 'discussion'?
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@topffer (34158)
• France
18 Jan 16
Some of my discussions are inspired by articles read online. When it is the case I give a link to the article. Many news can be a good source for a discussion, if the conclusions are original and there is something to discuss. Only rewriting dry news is not a "discussion" in my mind.
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• United States
18 Jan 16
You use things as inspiration, but you always put your own thoughts and ideas in it. That is different than what JJ is talking about.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
There's a huge difference between being inspired by an article, and simply re-stating facts. I want to know what people think about a subject. And it isn't just the news...I see people dong it with other subjects as well, simply re-hashing something they read without giving any original thought it it.
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@vandana7 (64930)
• India
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake .."original thought"...Vanny goes away thinking when was I ever original in thinking...
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@vandana7 (64930)
• India
18 Jan 16
Bro...you tell me? :) I write about incidents or episodes that touch me. Anger me. Frustrate me. Similar feelings are of course shared by others. But I write spontaneously. It may not be original thought, but it is not a rewrite. It is heartfelt..at times I do come up with doubts.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
You write about them, giving your impressions/feelings...there's nothing wrong with that.
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@vandana7 (64930)
• India
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake ..exonerated...relieved...
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@thesids (22358)
• Bhubaneswar, India
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake I have to agree. She does add her opinions and that makes things different for sure. Plus - she does revert back and does not leave it unattended.
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@owlwings (39229)
• Cambridge, England
18 Jan 16
It may qualify as a discussion but plagiarism doesn't exist in just the exact words used. It also covers the ideas and the order of the ideas in the article, so just 'rewording' an article (while keeping the original ideas expressed and the order in which they are presented) is just as much plagiarism as copying and pasting the original article.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
I think even changing the order of a sentence or two still constitutes intellectual plagiarism, but it seems to go on here frequently.
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@yukimori (9047)
• United States
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake Yeah, it's still plagiarism. Seems to be a strong misconception that any changes make it 'theirs' instead of the original author's...
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@yukimori (9047)
• United States
18 Jan 16
@purplealabaster Yeah, no kidding. Shoot, we got the lectures even in high school English class.
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@yukimori (9047)
• United States
18 Jan 16
People who do that are clearly missing the point of discussions. It might prompt some members to reply, but the commentary that separates the good and great discussions from the blah discussions is noticably absent. It's a game of give and take, not a game of post as much as you can and watch the money roll in.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
I hate it when the money rolls in, Scar sees it and starts batting it around and then I have to dig it out from under the couch or chair or whatever.
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@yukimori (9047)
• United States
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake He still hasn't made the money = catnip connection yet, has he? That's probably a good thing...
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@pgiblett (6595)
• Canada
18 Jan 16
It is important to make the discussion your own. Today I took the subject of an article I had published some time age, copied a few snippets to MyLot but also added my own more recent thoughts on the subject, but I think it made a good post. Part of the reason for doing this is to ensure there are seemingly independent links to my original article (which is good SEO) I agree re-wording someone else's post is not a good practice and most that do are visibly plagiarising.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
Personal opinions, thoughts, or ideas obtained from reading something online, and then expressed, with perhaps a snippet of the original article used, is how I think a discussion should be done. Many of those are quite interesting. But to read the news here, posted as a discussion, with no originality to it...if I wanted to read the news, I'd go to a news source. There's no specific mention of it in the guidelines, although it is a form of plagiarism, which the guidelines state is not allowed.
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@pgiblett (6595)
• Canada
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake "if I wanted to read the news, I'd go to a news source" I quite agree - I would as well and I don't need to look at MyLot for that. If you copy your own work is isn't plagiarism, but it is unwise from an SEO perspective.
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@pgiblett (6595)
• Canada
18 Jan 16
@LoriAMoore It is true that it is all too easy to copy. I moderate on another site and see a black man from South Africa posting a copy of an article originally by a gay Chinese lady from Chicago, sure I know who is copying who. I don't know how they think they can get away with it.
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@AnneEJ (5013)
• Dollard-Des-Ormeaux, Quebec
18 Jan 16
I just write about what I am thinking about at the moment.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
I sometimes even write without thinking
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@yukimori (9047)
• United States
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake Sometimes I-- SQUIRREL!
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• Jacksonville, Florida
18 Jan 16
I write my own discussions. If I see something from the news and want to write about it I give MY opinion about it-so it's all in my own words.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
That is how I have always felt it should be done.
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• United States
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake I did that one time years ago and added my own words and got myself so confused I got two murders names mixed up. That's life!
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• United States
18 Jan 16
I write my own discussions ... right after I copy and paste them off the Internet.
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@vandana7 (64930)
• India
18 Jan 16
Nobody said copy and paste is not allowed. They said plagiarism is not allowed. There is difference. Copy book is what my little friend takes to school, and paste is what I use in the morning. Plagiarism...well, I hope I got the spelling right for whatever it is worth.
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• United States
18 Jan 16
@vandana7 I thought that paste is what you use when you are brushing your teeth.
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@vandana7 (64930)
• India
18 Jan 16
@purplealabaster ..actually I also use ginger garlic paste in the curries...we Indians love spicy food...you know. But well, you could say that brushing thing is also ok...only too sweet..
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• United States
18 Jan 16
I think this kind of discussion goes on at every site. When you get right down to it, is there anything original? Nope, everything has been written already at some point in time. Typing what I just typed has been typed many times...so it's not original either.I know there will be a rebuttal coming....
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
The rebuttal being that you had to think about what to type. You didn't take the thoughts of someone else, change the order and wording a bit, and then post it as your own.
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• United States
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake Excellent - you get A+
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@silvermist (20100)
• India
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake And what if one is writing without thinking?
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@aju007 (1470)
• Thiruvananthapuram, India
18 Jan 16
To be honest, I once had a thought about doing it when I joined here first. But I changed it, no mylot made me change my thought. I have had a great experiece here. But I think posting discussions inspired from articles is okay, by not just rewording it but expressing it in your own way, isn't it?
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
Yes, expressing it in your own way, with your own thoughts, is perfectly acceptable.
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@much2say (39228)
• United States
18 Jan 16
Most of my discussions are about what's going on with me and my experiences - that better be "original". Nah, I don't rewrite articles that are already out there - what good is that? I will only write about "my" world. Oh my gosh, I think am just realizing who you are!
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
Shush woman, it's a secret...kinda...in a way...
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@much2say (39228)
• United States
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake JJ, of course, my long lost cousin!
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@amnabas (10282)
• Karachi, Pakistan
18 Jan 16
I write my own I hate those long lengthy discussions they irritates me.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
I don't mind a long discussion as long as it isn't a great big long paragraph with no breaks in it.
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@mysdianait (64058)
• Italy
18 Jan 16
I write my own. I might get an idea from something I read or hear and quote it but then I ask a question based on something contained in whatever news I have heard. I do see many who just write an article based on another article adding nothing of their own and that just seems so wrong to me.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
The site seems much more lax on banning this type of plagiarism than they used to be, but I guess they have their reasons...just always seems wrong to me. After all, what does it take to copy/paste a link showing where everything you wrote came from?
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@mysdianait (64058)
• Italy
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake When y post concerns something I read elsewhere then I always post thelink to it to back up what I say inthe post. I have not poked around a lot yet since I returned, due to lack of time, and have not seen what is happening now. If that is the case then it is wrong. There is NO reason to allow plagiarism on any site!
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@PainsOnSlate (20254)
• Canada
18 Jan 16
I write stories about my own life experiences, about the site, and current events. I also rewrite old posts that I wrote over the years that are no longer on thre Internet from other sites I belonged to. I never use anyone's posts found on the Internet, creativity is key for me. I see straight copy and paste often and always report it.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
There's nothing at all wrong with how you do it...even if someone rewrote a news article, it would be acceptable with their own take on it inserted, and a link to where they got the info. But some people seem to think taking the credit for themselves, even when it isn't their work, is acceptable.
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@dpk262006 (56170)
• Delhi, India
19 Jan 16
I try to write my own thoughts. I take my idea from news/happenings of day to day life. I do not feel like copying any article from internet and submitting as a discussion. I have to but agree with our friend @AbbyGreenhill here that nothing is original here, even our words are used many a times. However, the way we express ourselves conveys our originality.
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@Drosophila (16711)
• Ireland
18 Jan 16
I think it's a grey area. Rewrites maybe acceptable if sufficient work has been put into it to make it look unique. If you ever read the Grimm's brother story you'll see this.. Cinderella and Donkey Skin had such similar plots and details down to the gear, the dance, and the prince.. It's difficult to read either of them without thinking of the other one. Yet, no one seemed to raise an eyebrow there. Always strike me as very odd
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
I didn't care for 50 Shades of Grey when it was a popular subject. Putting work into it is the entire point here...nothing wrong with covering an article, but original thought should be included in it, instead of just a set of facts with no other opinion.
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@Drosophila (16711)
• Ireland
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake I don't know, on the other hand you get someone sueing the DS9 producers because Babylon 5 was also based on a space station with a war going down. Therefore, I'd say this is still a grey area, and subject to better definition
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
@Drosophila Sorry, I can't afford an HD screen for my computer.
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• United States
18 Jan 16
Yes I do I think all discussions are discussion unless they are violating some guidelines of myLots. I dont know enough to make discussions apparently as I have had great difficulty in doing so lately.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
You're just in a slump, I've seen a lot of good stuff come from your keyboard over the years.
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• United States
19 Jan 16
@JolietJake Thanks for saying so JJ..I dont recall any haha
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@Bluedoll (17069)
• Canada
18 Jan 16
Sometimes I get the feeling some are not interested in having a discussion. Yes that is suppose to be the point.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
There are a lot of 'hit and run' users here
@Bluedoll (17069)
• Canada
19 Jan 16
@JolietJake Either that or they are flitty budgies with short attention spans.
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@boiboing (12518)
• Northampton, England
18 Jan 16
Some are a bit too close to the original wording for my liking.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
I have a serious problem when the user won't even give a link to the source that their information came from, especially when the entire article is nothing but that information.
@boiboing (12518)
• Northampton, England
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake They are easily spotted and even easier reported. Push that button JJ.
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@thesids (22358)
• Bhubaneswar, India
18 Jan 16
I have only 197 discussions in the time I have been here. Almost most of them have been original, a few inspired by what I faced or learned here at MyLot. And only a few that extended the discussions of other - I recall one wherein I could not reply to the OP just because I realized, the OP and me had barely known each other an the response I had I could not dare post it at that age of our friendship. So I posted it as my own Discussion (but added the reference to the OPs Discussion). As far as your question is concerned, Internet is too big and not always possible to find out whether the material is original or not (at least to many). Also, going by the trends today, where I do see very similar discussions here being allowed, it would be wrong to say that these dont qualify as discussions. However, personally, I think, it is the Interaction on the discussion that makes it a Discussion. So if an OP interacts with the people on his/her thread, I think it is all okay and makes sense.
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@JolietJake (51144)
• United States
18 Jan 16
You missed entirely taking an article, not adding anything original to it, and simply posting the facts from it as "your" article.
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@thesids (22358)
• Bhubaneswar, India
18 Jan 16
@JolietJake Yes, I did miss it out... as I never ever thought of attempting it, as such, I really have no clue. From what I have seen in recent times, there have been such discussions - that put up things / facts from elsewhere and some of them have survived. But, they should not be allowed.
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