Developing a Discussion

All things Considered
@pgiblett (6576)
Canada
March 14, 2016 9:44am CST
What is MyLot? This is a question that crosses the mind of many who come to this site. Let's be clear MyLot is not a writing site, well not in the traditional sense where you write a fully thought out article for people to read (and perhaps comment on). MyLot is about developing the art of conversation, but in an on-line forum, and through that discussing an idea or theme in writing. The idea doesn't have to be complete to start a discussion. How do you develop a discussion? This is am important question in my view and it is not about mentioning everything that needs to be discussed, it is about putting out enough of an idea to attract people's attention, let them add their thoughts, add their ideas. Sometimes it is even necessary to withhold some crucial information, telling people about points A, B, and C, but holding back point D, which may be added later as a discussion develops. Would you agree that MyLot is more like holding a conversation and building a discussion?
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@Bluedoll (17039)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
I see this more as a method than defining what the site is. I agree though you got a good one there. I notice in giving out information which in my circles is sometimes called layin' your cards on the table depending on the discussion, you just might not get all the responses you hope for if that is what you hope for. What do you mean you have a need sometimes to run and hide?
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
Yes you have to lay your cards out on the table during the discussion, but in doing so you hope someone else picks one up, plays with it and either lays it down again or puts a new card down. My sometimes need to run and hide reference relates to the fact that sometimes we do have a tendency of embarrassing ourselves as well (foot in mouth syndrome) or where we light the touchpaper on something then run and hide before it goes bang
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@Bluedoll (17039)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
@pgiblett foot in mouth you made me laugh. I think you are right. Too much info and people can stop. I sometimes will need to go and refresh myself but don't mind if I make a fool of myself in the sense that someone brings in something valid. I do feel foolish however if I think I've been played. Of course all discussions are different so.. I liked the one we had on robots but you left it?
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
@Bluedoll If I left the discussion it was because there was no reply, or perhaps the reply said it all.
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@LadyDuck (188952)
• Switzerland
14 Mar 16
I agree, the meaning of this site is to attract people to a discussion so to start a conversation.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
And sometimes it doesn't matter what the subject matter is some people take the discussion anywhere they wish.
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@LadyDuck (188952)
• Switzerland
14 Mar 16
@pgiblett This is so true, sometimes we start talking about something that has nothing to do with the original discussion.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
@LadyDuck Like our Indian friend @vandana7 who goes in a completely new direction. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
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@amadeo (78692)
• United States
14 Mar 16
I suppose you can look at it that way.Never gave it a thought.there.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
But you take part in these discussions all the time - I see you.
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@amadeo (78692)
• United States
14 Mar 16
@pgiblett Most of the time.I try to interact with the people here
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
@amadeo I Know, and interacting is to my mind the same as having a discussion (the only difference words are typed, not spoken).
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@silvermist (20094)
• India
14 Mar 16
@pgiblett Yes I agree.It sums up what a discussion in mylot should be.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
Yes something that should be developed over time, where we add new facts when they are appropriate and sometimes we feel like we need to run and hide.
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@silvermist (20094)
• India
14 Mar 16
@pgiblett Like,this one,perhaps?This one,I see is developing nicely.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
@silvermist It is. But then there are times you read "Light blue touch paper, then run and hide," trouble is when you come out the fireworks are over. Do we need instant response?
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• United States
14 Mar 16
I've said from day one it's Facebook-ish but you earn a few pennies. There is nothing 'writing site' about myLot.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
I tend not to hold long, intriguing, conversations on Facebook that go on for days.
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• United States
14 Mar 16
@pgiblett I don't either most of the time, but there have been a few that went on for a long time.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
@AbbyGreenhill Discussions on MyLot also tend to be more visible than Facebook.
@vandana7 (69047)
• India
14 Mar 16
Yeah...I am holding conversation with left hand, and building discussion with right...I am right handed, but even so, building it with a single hand is such a difficult thing bro in law...can you help me Peter darlin?
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
It is all a matter of juggling, and I am sure your are adept at that.
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@vandana7 (69047)
• India
14 Mar 16
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@SIMPLYD (86545)
• Philippines
15 Mar 16
Yes. You post should elicit some more questions from the readers so the interaction will keep on going .
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
15 Mar 16
As of course it is only the ongoing discussion that earns the money.
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@JudyEv (142037)
• Bunbury, Australia
15 Mar 16
I agree totally. Here, you need to engage people and develop a line of communication.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
15 Mar 16
II am in favour of allowing the line of communication to develop and engaging people is essential. Is is also about following the rules of passing the dialogue between the people in the conversation.
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@jaboUK (55157)
• United Kingdom
14 Mar 16
I agree, the object is to draw people to our discussions and hopefully take part.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
15 Mar 16
Drawing people in is the purpose of the introduction of the discussion but from there a dialogue needs to develop.
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@Dragonairy1 (1413)
• Newcastle Upon Tyne, England
14 Mar 16
Ive never really looked at it that way, but it is all about interaction, so I do agree
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
Yes Interaction is key, bot sometimes it is necessary to have a respondent think outside the box and even the truly whacky is needed.
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• Eugene, Oregon
14 Mar 16
Asking questions as part of a discussion seems to work well. I generally write a complete thought in a discussion.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
I rarely write a complete thought, because I wish to see what others bring to the table. I wish the thought to develop over time. Another discussion I created, called "Are we ever Going to Learn?" was one that I enjoyed because I developed new ideas as a result of the discussion.
I remember as a young child my mother asking the question 'Are we ever going to learn?' and of course in my innocence I asked 'What did I do wrong?' 'Oh. It...
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@miniam (9228)
• Bern, Switzerland
14 Mar 16
You have explained well and summed up what a discussion in myLot should be.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
Thank you, but what have I missed? I must have missed something.
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@allknowing (73233)
• India
15 Mar 16
Putting everything down in a post will stifle a responder. One should leave the matter such that people get ideas to put into that post.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
15 Mar 16
That is what I thought, they will read the post, "Like" it and move on, hardly develops a conversation, does it?
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@allknowing (73233)
• India
15 Mar 16
@pgiblett There are only a few here who can prolong a conversation.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
15 Mar 16
@allknowing I know. It is something that traditionally I have been poor at, but last year I listened to a lecture about holding a conversation and I was surprised what I didn't know about the art of conversation.
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@dpk262006 (56599)
• Delhi, India
15 Mar 16
I fully agree with you that through a discussion (sometimes we call it a thread also) we give some ideas/thoughts for others to contribute on it and an opportunity is given to other users to share their views/experiences on the issue mentioned in the discussion. It is not a writing site and one does not need to be an accomplished writer to write a response/comment or to start a new discussion. Users come from different backgrounds and different countries so it is not expected that they would be perfect in English. Which means that even if there is some imperfection in use of language that is also allowed here to make a user feel at ease.
@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
15 Mar 16
Alternate views and experiences are a vital part of the thread in my view, you may have one answer in mind, but get given an alternative approach, which may make you think about your question again. On imperfect English, agreed it doesn't have to be perfect, but it should be considered a place to grow knowledge and skills, by understanding how native English speakers use the language.
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@dpk262006 (56599)
• Delhi, India
16 Mar 16
@pgiblett Yes, when we discuss something we get different perspectives on it, we may or may not like all the perspectives, that is another matter. Yes, you are very right that those who wish to learn English, this is one of the best platforms to learn English.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
16 Mar 16
@dpk262006 Liking or disliking perspectives is something that is difficult to control, but I think we must learn to respect the opinions of others even if we dislike them. There is nothing like writing English to help you learn it, but, sadly, there are some people here that fail to learn.
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@Gina145 (3974)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
21 Mar 16
myLot may not be a writing site as such, but I think that learning to build a successful discussion could help someone to grow as a writer.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
22 Mar 16
Yes, I truly believe it can. It can also provide fertile ground for dialogue.
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@Gina145 (3974)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
22 Mar 16
@pgiblett That's something I need to learn badly. I haven't been around here much lately, but I need to do something about it.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
22 Mar 16
@Gina145 I know we all have other things to do, which means we come and go, but that is life.
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@destimona (1914)
• Luxembourg, Luxembourg
15 Mar 16
I do agree.Mylot is mainly for interacting with others. Interaction matters a lot in mylot.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
15 Mar 16
I agree, likes also matter, because it helps contributors get paid. Interaction keeps the topic going, enables you to expand a topic and even sometimes turn the tables on those that are taking part. Also it is possible to go off on a diversion, for example asking how things are in Luxembourg?
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@destimona (1914)
• Luxembourg, Luxembourg
15 Mar 16
@pgiblett Yeah...All fine in Luxembourg. weather is better nowadays. bit sunshine today. last week of school for kids. Easter holidays starts from next week.
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@destimona (1914)
• Luxembourg, Luxembourg
15 Mar 16
@pgiblett What else can help to earn more in mylot.?
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@AnneEJ (4978)
• Dollard-Des-Ormeaux, Quebec
14 Mar 16
I agree with you. Maybe we should do more of that - just toss out a question and see how everyone feels about it.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
I like the idea of getting feedback from others on something I am thinking about writing. I did this for one discussion and got a massive response, which I have been using to create something, but it will be much larger than a single article, it is more like a book chapter in length.
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@AnneEJ (4978)
• Dollard-Des-Ormeaux, Quebec
14 Mar 16
@pgiblett That is good that you got lots of feedback
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
14 Mar 16
@AnneEJ It doesn't always happen, some people think 1 response is enough and don't answer a second time.
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@BelleStarr (40244)
• United States
16 Mar 16
I agree but there are obviously many who are using it as a writing site or an earning site like a job. I think that detracts somewhat from what the site is meant to be, a place to discuss things and get a small share of the income.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
16 Mar 16
I am not sure that there are many using it as an earning site I see a few people on a pension using it for extra money, I come here for fun, and some research on opinions, I leve people's opinions on various matters that are discussed every day. I do my serious writing elsewhere, but turn the ideas gleaned into a piece published elsewhere.
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@BelleStarr (40244)
• United States
16 Mar 16
@pgiblett I think there are more than you would expect. I see talk about it all the time. Anyone spending 8 -12 hours a day on here is not just lonely. lol Me I am having a good time.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
17 Mar 16
@BelleStarr I am normally here for twenty minutes at a time, when I am taking a break from work assignments, one of the advantages of working from home.
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@rina110383 (24064)
15 Mar 16
I completely agree! I like the fact that you used "and" between holding a conversation and building a discussion. Some post discussions that foster exchange of ideas. They are good posts actually. However, they fail to get back to the people who responded to their discussion. There could have been a conversation if they interacted. To achieve the true meaning of discussion, both requirements that you mentioned should be satisfied.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
15 Mar 16
I hate it when people put up a good post that welcomes discussion then fail to discuss the subject with you. I have in the past commented on other people's responses in order to get a discussion going.
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@rina110383 (24064)
15 Mar 16
@pgiblett Same here. I consider it as futile mental exercise on my part.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
15 Mar 16
@rina110383 Agreed. I just wish there was something you could do about it (other than ignoring discussions by people you don't know).
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• , New York
5 May 16
Yes I agree with you. It seems to be a online social site where you mainly engage in conversations.
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@pgiblett (6576)
• Canada
6 May 16
Conversations are at the heart of it and of course to hold a conversation there must be a back and forth between parties.