Surprise! The Hurt is Still There

@just4him (305965)
Green Bay, Wisconsin
April 30, 2016 8:13pm CST
I just got back from church and found you've been just as active as you've been all day, so you must not have taken time to do the SS&S let alone eating, drinking, or being merry except on here. I don't mind. My bank also climbed while I was gone. So anyway, I'm going to tell you a story - a true story. It happened a little over a year ago. Wait, I can give you the exact date my world turned upside down. February 11, 2015. That's the date the letter was postmarked. I had been going to the church for a few years. I enjoyed the church. I was involved and I was a member. I had/have a lot of friends there. However, the husband of a good friend decided to take it upon himself to totally disrupt my life. I had been part of a group he was the head of, for about six months, called Grief Share. I became part of that group because I lost my brother in June of 2014. Consequently when you see someone every week, you learn things about them, and they you. However, I never once suspected what was going to fall down around my ears. I stopped going to Grief Share. I didn't feel I was getting anything from it. There were people there who had lost loved ones who were really hurting. I couldn't feel their pain. Yes, I had lost my brother, but the closeness of our family was never there and I didn't feel anything at all for his loss. I still don't. You all know I write a Daily Bible Study. I also send it out to a few friends. One of those friends shared the study with this couple. He took it upon himself to start making accusations against me and telling me I didn't know what I was talking about and I was listening to bad teaching and so forth. Through the course of the letter he sent me, he also told me I was going to Hell, to stay away from his wife, and get counseling. I was so hurt I didn't know what to do, but I knew one thing, I couldn't go to that church any longer. No, he wasn't a pastor, but he was in a leadership position. But I couldn't stay there. So I started church shopping as they call it, and finally landed at the church I'm currently going to. Fast forward to tonight. He was there. All the pain, all the hurt, all the feelings that I've been working through for the past year with my counselor, because yes, I did start counseling almost right away, all of it came back in a flash. I felt conscious of every song I sang, every move I made, and every thought I had throughout the service. It felt like he watched everything I did, though I'm quite certain he didn't. Yet I felt guilty. I felt cheap. I felt like maybe he was right, and yet I know beyond a doubt he's wrong. He was wrong when he wrote that letter, and everything I felt tonight was all wrong as well. If there's one thing I know it's this. I have been a Christian for 36 years. I've sat under some great Bible teachers and pastors. I've listened to countless hours of radio ministries, and I've been to Bible College. I have read the Bible cover to cover countless times. I used to be able to count the number of times I've read the Bible by how many Bibles I owned because I would buy a new one every time I finished with one. The reason I did that was that I didn't want all the highlighting, underlining, circling, and messages in the margins to influence me the next time I read the Bible all the way through. I also have countless notebooks filled with my Bible Studies. Now I have a Bible program - two of them, and I do my Bible studies online, and start a new one every time I finish the first one. I might not have all the answers, but I know where to find the answers, and I'm going to Heaven not Hell. When I saw him tonight I almost walked out, but I didn't. I stayed and when the service was over. I didn't see him. He was gone. I prayed all the way home, for all the pain, for him, for an end to the feeling of guilt that really isn't mine. I have nothing to be ashamed of, yet I felt shame. I asked God to take the hurt away. That is only one reason I'm in counseling and I will win this battle. With God's help. I don't know if you have anything or anyone who has caused you as much pain and hurt as I have felt in the past year. I hope not, but if you are going through it, I hope you too are getting some help. I'm a child of the KING and I know it. Thanks for reading.
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16 responses
@Elizaby (6902)
• Pensacola, Florida
1 May 16
You allowed yourself to be robbed tonight when you saw this individual. I pray that you are able to come to the place whee you have fully forgiven him and as God does when we come to him, cast those sins into the sea of forgetfulness and are able to show the character and love of Christ when you see him.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
I know, and the only thing I can say is I'm working on it.
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@fishtiger58 (29823)
• Momence, Illinois
1 May 16
How awful for you, and why do you suppose he was at your church tonight.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
I don't know. It was a complete surprise.
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@fishtiger58 (29823)
• Momence, Illinois
1 May 16
@just4him I hope he leaves you alone to worship how you choose to. He doesn't sound horribly Christian to me.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
@fishtiger58 I hope I don't see him again either, but I am doing my best to forgive.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
1 May 16
that was horrible ideed yo u did nothing wrong and he was horrid this reminds me of a supposed slte for us diabetics and some weird freak of a doctor started telling us all that we were not christlians and he even made a list of us he was g o ing to send to the devil etc the man scaredme and I just gave up going to that site because of this odd evil man. I know I had not done anythig wrong but he seemed pure evil
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
He probably was. The man at church tonight also sent a letter to a good friend of mine who also used to go to that church. It was the same kind of hateful letter.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
2 May 16
@just4him what an awful man and of course that would indeed upset your friend too so awful
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
2 May 16
@Hatley She still hasn't found a new church. She's checked out the one I'm going to, but the size is putting her off. Normally that would me too. I tend to feel like I'm drowning in larger churches, but not this one for some reason.
@rona07 (1641)
• Philippines
1 May 16
Im sorry that this happens to you. Some people are really so quick and easy to judge. No one has the right to judge how a person lives his life. And i am not into church group, for that reason. For there are people who are just like that and i dont want them to share to every friends they met the things that i went through. I hope youll heal and that the hurt will be lifted up from your heart. Have a blessed sunday.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
Thank you very much.
@Drosophila (16573)
• Ireland
2 May 16
A similar thing happened to a close relative of mine, and she ended up having a breakdown. I was angry for a very long time for the person who caused this for us. Reading your story just brought that memory back. Jesus gave us 2 commandments to bear, 1) love God and 2) love each other. As long as we keep these commandments we are walking with God. Your bible studies are your testimonial to your love of God and his words. As well as the love to fellow Christians who may be in need of these words. I think when he wrote you that letter, he did the opposite of the second commandment. If you can't love another Christian, who can you love?
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@Drosophila (16573)
• Ireland
3 May 16
@just4him Forgiveness is not easy for sure, it literately took me years to stop feeling angry against the group of individuals that brought on this catastrophe onto us. It also put me off church and Christianity for a long time. I still don't understand why people feel justified to judge when they are really not in a position to. For judgement belongs to God. "Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" - Matthew 7.3. is what I want to quote to these self-righteous people. I can only empathise your pain, the very network of people you trust turned against you in the most vicious way hurts. My relative never recovered fully, she has been in and out of mental care unit since. So I understand it might take you years to come to terms with this unjustified abuse. And I can only say, you're making great progress already! you did not let this man deter you from carrying out what Christ had said all Christians should do. That is to make disciples of all nations and spread the good news: "teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." -Matthew 28:20.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
3 May 16
True. Jesus even said it is easy for us to love those who love us, but we need to love those who don't. I am doing my best to forgive him the hurt and pain he caused me.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
3 May 16
@Drosophila I have no answer to this as the tears roll from my eyes. Thank you for your understanding.
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@CRK109 (14558)
• United States
1 May 16
Why on earth would he have even been there? Well, I'm very glad you didn't leave and while I understand the pain you are in (and yes, I've been there and yes, I spend many years in therapy to learn to deal with the pain), please keep praying because God and your counseling with get you past this. Pain can make us better if we deal with it head on. I'm so glad you've talked about it to get it out of your head. I hope this is your first step in finally getting rid of the pain he has caused you. xoxo
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
Thank you so much Claudia. It'll be the main topic when I see my counselor next. My problem with that is it's still two weeks away. Being he's also a pastor and summer is upon us, his church is getting ready for retreats and camps and things of that nature.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
2 May 16
@CRK109 You're right of course. It's already manageable.
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@CRK109 (14558)
• United States
2 May 16
@just4him Yes, I understand. Even when I was in therapy, appointments sometimes had to wait because of the season and how busy everyone was. But this is more time to pray and see if you can begin at least to hand it over to God. That's one area where I struggle all the time, but it's good practice to at least keep trying. And who knows? By the time you see your counselor again, the problem just might not be so large anymore. xoxo
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@MGjhaud (23163)
• Philippines
1 May 16
there might be a reason why you saw him there, but whatever it is, you did good. your faith in Him made you stronger.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
Thank you so much.
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@Marcyaz (35316)
• United States
10 May 16
He was probably remembering what he had done to you and so he didn't want to confront you.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
10 May 16
I doubt that.
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@Juliaacv (48389)
• Canada
1 May 16
That is a shame, can you get counselling from your current church for this? I think that maybe you need to work on that, you are in a very vulnerable state having just suffered more loss in your life. I hope that you are able to work thru this, its really the last thing you need.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
I'm getting counseling through another church, and it will be the main issue at our next appointment. Thank you.
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@Jessicalynnt (50525)
• Centralia, Missouri
1 May 16
I would also deff bring that up in counseling, if you haven't already. That kind of,...well judgement hurts. Why he felt the need to attack you, I have no idea. If he disagreed he and his wife could have, simply stopped reading the studies. you didn't make them read a thing. I have to tell myself over and over sometimes, I am only responsible for ME and my feelings. I have no control over other people's. They can think and feel however they want, and if I find their actions based on those same feelings and thinkings toxic, I can deff walk away. It's ok. It's ok to fight too, whatever is right for you at that time. -hugs- From what I have read I feel as though you have placed your faiths in G-d. He/she would be the only being who can judge your heart, and your actions. Not a person. Knowing this, and putting the irrational feelings and fears down though can be super hard.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
Thank you. Yes it can be very hard. My counseling appointment is next week.
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@DianneN (246643)
• United States
10 May 16
What a nasty man. I wonder what he was doing at your church? Hopefully, he won't show his face again.
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@DianneN (246643)
• United States
10 May 16
@just4him Good!
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
10 May 16
He wasn't there this past Saturday night, so I doubt I'll see him again.
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@Lucky15 (37346)
• Philippines
1 May 16
A I have a heartache.but i had it healed over the years. Just that.
www.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
2 May 16
I'm glad you were able to heal from it. I will too. It's just taking time.
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@ridingbet (66857)
• Philippines
1 May 16
i think that man wanted you to be in his church, but on the contrary, he said some awful things to you. our God is a forgiving one. sure we go through the stages of mourning, but it is in our own perception how we should manifest it. i hope you are able to get over it now.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
Me too, thank you.
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@Daljinder (23231)
• Bangalore, India
1 May 16
I am not a Christian. You know that. I have also told you before that I find your words positive and to me that is a very good sign. A very good thing. That's what God is all about. Isn't it? Good, good and more good? If a person claims to be true to God and spread negativity like that person did to you, do you really think he was right about God? lol No, Valerie, God and hatred don't go together. Never have and never will. Remember you told me "what a blessing to be someone's sunshine". And now remember what that man gave you... the guilt, the pain, etc... If I have to choose to be either one of you. I will be you. Because I will spread smile and goodness rather than claim I am true to God while spitting venom at others. So, rest easy. Please don't feel guilty. You did nothing wrong.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
Thank you. Did you happen to read my latest post? I'm spreading some sunshine.
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@Daljinder (23231)
• Bangalore, India
2 May 16
@just4him If you are talking about the one on depression, then yes I did read it. Haven't replied to it yet. I will.
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@Teep11 (7674)
• United States
1 May 16
What a touching story. Sometimes we may feel shameful for whatever reason but God is a Forgiving God and when we ask Him to forgive us He does. Praying and reading God's words will help us get through anything that come upon us. We can heal through meditating on the word and surrounding ourselves with positive people. Everyone will feel hurt and pain and we can surely overcome it.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
Yes we can, and I'm working on it.
@jstory07 (134426)
• Roseburg, Oregon
1 May 16
In time I hope all of your pain will be gone. I am glad you found the right church for you.
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@just4him (305965)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
1 May 16
Yes I did. I absolutely love the church and getting involved right away with the kids was great.