If killing is justified, is it still a sin?

By Cruz
Philippines
July 2, 2016 12:34pm CST
All people have a need to protect themselves. Ever since the conception of history, people armed themselves with shields and weapons to protect themselves from other people who wish to do them harm. However, protecting oneself has a tendency to ending up in a big fight and fighting also causes death. And yet, to kill people is a sin. It may be alright in some jurisdictions if the killing is justified. However, would it be alright in the eyes of whatever deity one believes in if they kill another person?
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11 responses
5 Jul 16
I believe no religion teach us to kill. Killing can never be justified until it's a question of self-survival.
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• Philippines
6 Jul 16
Then does this mean that there is no other good reason for killing others except for one's own survival?
8 Jul 16
we don't have the power to give life to someone, then who has given us the right to kill.
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• Philippines
8 Jul 16
@Manishankarroy Good idea. So there really is no reason. Except when others try to take ours, we must do everything to stop them, even if it means taking their life?
@MALUSE (32847)
• Denmark
2 Jul 16
Do you know how many religious wars have been fought through the millenia? People have always maintained that God is on their side. The Old Testament of the Bible is full of the most atrocious stories of wars and killings.
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• Philippines
2 Jul 16
That is true. Then perhaps killing would be alright if it were for a deity's sake? But then, that kind of thinking would be similar to those of ISIS wherein they kill people just because of their beliefs. Do they not think of others' beliefs? Perhaps God is trying to be neutral to all groups and religions and some people are misunderstanding Him and thinking that they should make a "Holy War" to prove their point, don't you think?
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@MALUSE (32847)
• Denmark
2 Jul 16
@Tierkreisze ISIS people definitely don't think of other people's beliefs. This is a vast topic. You may want to ask a religious person, a priest or a pastor, what your religion has to say about it.
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• Philippines
2 Jul 16
@MALUSE I'd like to have the opinion of the ordinary people, if I could. I can ask them, but those people have already developed their own views based on their level of understanding of their own religion. People like you can help me understand certain parts of this topic a bit better by making sure that the thoughts of the public does not go unnoticed (and it's easier to do it here, by the way ).
@Shiva49 (9644)
• Singapore
3 Jul 16
I would say in the rarest of rare cases where there is no other option. We should fight tooth and nail for peace than become trigger happy - siva
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• Philippines
3 Jul 16
Do you mean the Hindu God Siva, by any chance?
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@Shiva49 (9644)
• Singapore
4 Jul 16
@Tierkreisze Yes Hindus like to name children after their many gods and their variables. I was named after three important gods - siva
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• Philippines
4 Jul 16
@Shiva49 I guess it should be an honour to be named after an important entity in your religion, yes? Oh, and regarding your response, does this mean that you believe that killing should be done only when necessary?
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• India
2 Jul 16
Killing is wrong but in some cases we have to kill the people who is really harm to the society. we are forced to do it for the good.
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• Philippines
2 Jul 16
If doing good meant having to do evil, then perhaps that would allow killing. Then does that mean doing lesser evils to do good is also acceptable? Like what Robin Hood does, stealing and then giving them away to the poor?
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@MALUSE (32847)
• Denmark
2 Jul 16
@sunilparthan Capital punishment doesn't stop crime as you can see in all countries where there is capital punishment.
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• India
3 Jul 16
@MALUSE But at least it will help to reduce the crimes.
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@IreneVincent (15437)
• United States
6 Jul 16
This is a very good question. As you probably know by now, I try to always get the Bible's viewpoint on questions like this, so here are my thoughts on this subject. 1. One of the ten commandments is stated at Exodus 20:13 and it says: "Thou shalt not kill." This was a law to the Israelites and notice that it does not say: "Thou shalt not kill, EXCEPT in the case of..." There were NO EXCEPTIONS. 2. Jesus also had something to say about defending ourselves. You might want to read what Jesus said at Matthew 26:52 "for all those who take the sword will perish by the sword." You might want to read this article in your own language:
See 5 Bible teachings that show how one world government will act to eliminate nationalism and all that is at the root of conflict. It is already teaching true peace.
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• Philippines
6 Jul 16
It's always good to see all the perspectives when trying to figure out something. This can greatly help. Here's a question, though. I think I remember some passages in the old testament regarding warfare and God's promises of victory. Is that excluded from the sixth commandment? If there were no exceptions, then wouldn't it be possible that Israelite warriors were heavier sinners than the average human who doesn't fight? If I remember it right, the bible teaches us not to fight, but to allow God's judgment to strike retribution on those who have sinned against us; lest we forgive them. Thus the meaning of the line of Matthew 26:52. Still, I'm sure that whatever question comes into my mind, I know the Christian Bible seeks that humans should not kill but to love one another.
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• United States
6 Jul 16
@Tierkreisze Yes, that's when things changed. When Jesus came to the earth, he taught his followers to show LOVE even to their enemies. Understanding why God permitted war in ancient times is a complicated subject, but it revolves around God's promise to Abraham, that from his line, the Messiah, Christ Jesus would come. This covenant is recorded in the book of Genesis and repeated at Galatians 3;16-25 The line of descent is recorded in two different places in the Bible (Matthew 1:1-17) and (Luke 3:23-38) This line of descent had to be protected down through the centuries. There is more to it than that. Here's a link that will explain several different aspects of what the Bible says about war.
Long ago, God told his people to fight wars. Later, Jesus taught people to love their enemies. What changed?
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• Philippines
6 Jul 16
@IreneVincent I think I know why God permitted war. @HebrewGreekStudies explained that the hebrew word used for "kill" in the sixth commandment was better translated into "murder" instead. You can kill, yes, but only because you must protect yourself. Perhaps the same might be true for war, as the Israelites might have been in constant warfare with other nations. I'm not a historian so I don't know. Still, I remember reading somewhere that God hates war. I just don't remember...
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@SIMPLYD (75354)
• Philippines
8 Jul 16
I think if it is done for self-defense then it's justifiable , because if you will not defend yourself you will be the one who will be killed .
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• Philippines
8 Jul 16
But would you have to kill in order to protect yourself?
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@SIMPLYD (75354)
• Philippines
8 Jul 16
@Tierkreisze That is if i have no other recourse but to defend myself .
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@JediYoda (1743)
• Samoa
28 May
Killing under self-defense or defense of relatives or defense of strangers is a justifying circumstances in order to preserve one's life or the life of others and so killing someone in the process under that situation is not a "sin".
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• Philippines
28 May
Then does this also mean that theft under the same circumstances is also not a sin so long as it is justified?
@acelawrites (10750)
• Philippines
4 Jul 16
Sometimes killing could be justified if it was done in self-defense; or to stop that man from sowing terror. Maybe the deity you said will understand it.
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• Philippines
4 Jul 16
Perhaps you're right. Some people even become heroes although the person they are trying to stop gets killed. But then again, doesn't the catholic church love martyrs? They don't kill for their own religion, but they do allow themselves to be killed to show their devotion.
@Lucky15 (33691)
• Philippines
3 Jul 16
This is hard...justified..still.no but...
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• Philippines
3 Jul 16
I see you're also having trouble deciding. You can look at it like this: is the new president doing the right thing? Yes or no?
@Mike197602 (13518)
• Worcester, England
2 Jul 16
I do believe in a higher power but not in organised religion. Killing is wrong but if it is kill or be killed I'd kill and not be worried about sins and such things. I'd be more worried about getting done by the police
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• Philippines
2 Jul 16
Haha. I guess it would be alright that way. I don't think you'd get into much trouble if killing the person meant your own survival (or others. They'd call you a hero for that!).
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@ritwik17c (390)
• India
12 Jul 16
Crusades (holy war), Jehads (of the terrorists like ISIS) etc. are the words that will bear testimony to the evil human tendency to kill humans and justify the heinous crime by ascribing it to some religious necessity. Most obnoxious..