Another view I got on my daytrip

Yeah, Europe in general has a much better transit system that we do here. I think we have a bus that runs twice a day but it takes almost 2 or 3 hours if I had to go somewhere that's only 35 miles from here.

Well, at least I have a car so I don't need to worry about buses @LadyDuck

@rebelann The bus that stop just a few steps from our door runs every half hour, it is very convenient. I can reach the railroad station walking 15 minutes and from there I can go to every Swiss city.

@rebelann This is no doubt due to Britain being more densely populated.

Thank goodness you have a good transit system where you live, we don't have that which is a pity.

You are not alone, I also never did learn to drive.

I like that too but nowadays our roads aren't as empty as they once were.

That is a much better way to learn than a straight line but ma's friend took her to this road to teach her to drive back in 1963 when dad was in Korea so when he was in Okinawa in 1968 that's where she took me to learn.

Thats how my dad learned, he actually learned to drive a tractor before he drove a car.

How did you manage to get a license at 14? I took DE as well and a few of the others in that class were 15 and were told they could only get a permit until they turned 16 .... that was back in 1969.

I imagine many laws changed after 1954 @JamesHxstatic I know that they've changed considerably since 1969.

@rebelann I dunno, it was 1954 and we lived in San Antonio, and I got a full license, kinda strange I think.

That is very interesting.

It's the best way to learn how to control a car but then one does have to learn to drive in traffic eventually.

We are the lucky ones. I'm not even sure parents these days take the time to teach their kids to drive. I took drivers education through my school back in 1969, it was an elective that counted as a grade but I think mom had to pay $30 dollars anyway. I haven't a clue how much people pay for drivers ed these days.

Wow, that sounds so wonderful @DianneN nothing at all like what we have here. It seems like we've got one great big suburb, here's an Ariel view of part of the east side of our city.

I always get an image of our neighborhood when I hear suburbs but I wonder what they are like on the east coast, fairly densely populated I imagine would that be about right?

@rebelann Not really. My town has grown to 100,000 people, but we are each required to have a minimum of 1 1/2 acres of land. We have two, so the houses are not on top of each other. It's a small town with a town center consisting of a church, senior center, town hall, volunteer fire and police department, and a new library. Very New England looking. Further away on a main road is a farmer's market, a little deli, and small businesses just as you read the city line about 2-3 miles away. Then the restaurants, supermarket, hardware store, etc. begin.

I know what you mean, the first time I had to drive in traffic I was so scared but after a while I got used to it and then I fell in love with driving.

@rebelann exactly. that was what happened to me.

The good thing about that is you probably weren't willing to risk your life by driving stupid the way that teens sometimes do.

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