I Just Donated to the Election Recount

Office photos of Clinton and Trump
Laguna Woods, California
November 23, 2016 9:39pm CST
Did you know that several computer scientists and cyber security people believe that it is possible that the election machines in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania were hacked? Not all of the machines, but just enough to throw the election to Trump. This is frightening. No matter who you voted for, it is terrible to consider that someone could hack the machines and change the votes. These are not complaints from ordinary people ... these are cyber security experts who believe this is what happened. The computer experts who noticed there were anomalies in the count went to the Clinton campaign and told her they would like to audit the election results. Only a candidate can request a recount. However, before she could request one, Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate, requested a recount instead. She is doing this, I believe, to help Hillary Clinton avoid the embarrassment of asking for a recount and then discovering that there was nothing wrong with the machines. I just donated to the recount at the Jill2016 recount website. I have been watching since I did that and money is pouring in. Thank goodness for Jill Stein. I really appreciate what she is doing! No matter how this turns out, it will be reassuring to at least know for sure, one way or the other, that the vote tally is correct.
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@crossbones27 (19579)
• Redlands, California
24 Nov 16
I know if it was me, I would not want to be elected by fraud. Everyone would say you were not the real President. It is already bad enough Trump is losing the popular vote by so much. That would irk me alone, but the rules are the rules and power hungry mongrols like him usually do not care how they win as long as they win.
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• Laguna Woods, California
25 Nov 16
@crossbones27 - I agree with what you said completely. He is a power hungry mongrol and does not care that the majority of voters actually voted for someone else.
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• Laguna Woods, California
27 Nov 16
@sugartoes - I'm sorry this news is making you so unhappy. You seem to have trouble understanding that nearly 70,000,000 Americans have a different opinion than you do.
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@Marty1 (33525)
• Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
27 Nov 16
@crossbones27 when you are entitled like Mr Trump handed over millions of dollars from his father he will win with fraud because with how much he is worth he has the Midas touch so to speak and is used to getting everything he wants. He doesn't know how to lose. So fraud won't bother him
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@LadyDuck (157058)
• Switzerland
24 Nov 16
Well done, I would have done the same. There was something fishy here.
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• Laguna Woods, California
25 Nov 16
@LadyDuck - I agree that there seems to be something fishy about the election. I am so glad they have raised enough money to do a recount!
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@LadyDuck (157058)
• Switzerland
25 Nov 16
@DeborahDiane I am so sure that Mark Twain was true when he declared "If voting made a difference, they wouldn't let us do it. " They let us vote, but finally they elect what THEY decided to elect.
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• Laguna Woods, California
26 Nov 16
@LadyDuck - It certainly looks like bad people may have been behind the results in our election, that's for sure!
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@JudyEv (123170)
• Bunbury, Australia
24 Nov 16
It would be awful to think that Trump hasn't been elected fairly.
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• Laguna Woods, California
24 Nov 16
@JudyEv - I agree that it would be very sad to discover too late that Trump had been illegally made president. I'm glad they are checking on this.
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@jstory07 (66977)
• Roseburg, Oregon
24 Nov 16
We should just go with what the count said.
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• Eugene, Oregon
24 Nov 16
Not if it was wrong. Hillary is ahead on the popular vote by nearly 2 million. If the Electoral votes are wrong, Trump should not be Pres.
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• Laguna Woods, California
24 Nov 16
@JamesHxstatic - I agree that if the count turns out to be wrong, then Trump should not be president. I think the public needs to know for sure, one way or the other.
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• Laguna Woods, California
24 Nov 16
@jstory07 - Even if it turns out Trump is the true winner, we absolutely need to make sure that our election equipment cannot be hacked. At the very least, we need to know that.
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@fishtiger58 (30338)
• Momence, Illinois
24 Nov 16
Interesting, I will be interested on how that all turns out.
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• Laguna Woods, California
24 Nov 16
@fishtiger58 - Yes, one way or the other, it will be very interesting to see how this turns out. At least, if Trump wins, we will know for sure!
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@fishtiger58 (30338)
• Momence, Illinois
27 Nov 16
@DeborahDiane Wisconsin I believe just said yes to a recount. They are also trying in Michigan and Pennsylvania. We should hear their decision the end of next week beginning of next.
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• Laguna Woods, California
27 Nov 16
@fishtiger58 - I'm glad they are doing the recount. No matter how it turns out, people need to be confident that the election process is accurate. If it is not, they need to be confident that it can be corrected.
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@Bluedoll (17069)
• Canada
24 Nov 16
Free country that promotes free elections and democracy has corrupted ones? Now that is really non-unbelievable!
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• Laguna Woods, California
25 Nov 16
@Bluedoll - Pretty shocking that our election process is corrupted, right? Ha Ha!
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@Bluedoll (17069)
• Canada
25 Nov 16
@DeborahDiane I can see the need for independent observers here!
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• Laguna Woods, California
26 Nov 16
@Bluedoll - Absolutely. I am willing to accept the election results, as long as I feel confident that they are accurate. Independent observers are an important part of that.
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@DianneN (77983)
• United States
28 Nov 16
I've been following that on the news. We have a right to know if there has been any tampering. My son, who is an attorney, works as Senior Counsel and Chief Compliance Officer. He has been and continues to be trained in cyber security for his firm, which has offices all over the world. He told us that we wouldn't believe what is going on in cyberspace. So I wouldn't be surprised if there was tampering at the polls.
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• Laguna Woods, California
29 Nov 16
@DianneN - Ironically, even Trump agrees that votes could have been tampered with. However, he is sure that all the tampering went towards suppressing his votes, not Clinton's! LOL
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@DianneN (77983)
• United States
30 Nov 16
@DeborahDiane So I've heard.
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• Laguna Woods, California
1 Dec 16
@DianneN - I have to say ... the guy continues to amaze me, especially with his Tweets.
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• Eugene, Oregon
24 Nov 16
Holy Moley! I just hope this is for real! I will look into donating! Now I have donated and I hope you do too if you read this post.
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• Laguna Woods, California
24 Nov 16
They need about $2.5 million to file in all three states; then another couple of million for lawyers and another couple of million for independent observers. They have already raised enough for the filing fees, so they are well on their way!
• Laguna Woods, California
24 Nov 16
@JamesHxstatic - The website to donate is
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• Eugene, Oregon
24 Nov 16
@DeborahDiane I found it alright and i hope many others do.
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@Mike197602 (13467)
• Worcester, England
27 Nov 16
we don't have machines here. We either vote by post or vote in person and the votes are hand counted. To have an impact on the government there would need to be a lot of untrustworthy ballot counters. If it is right that there was an error it needs to be sorted out.
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• Laguna Woods, California
28 Nov 16
@Mike197602 - I agree that, if there has been an error, it needs to be corrected. We need to know if our voting machines actually work correctly, or we will never be able to trust election results.
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@Kandae11 (36887)
24 Nov 16
You should do whatever you feel is right.
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• Laguna Woods, California
25 Nov 16
@Kandae11 - I am willing to accept whatever the recount shows, but I am glad they are going to do a recount.
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@Hatley (164654)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Nov 16
I read tgat a iit of mauik ub ballots were not sent t0 those of us that vote b y mail
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• Laguna Woods, California
24 Nov 16
@Hatley - I had not heard of a problem with the mail-in ballots. If I do learn more, I will write about it.
@PainsOnSlate (20254)
• Canada
27 Nov 16
I am not holding my breath but it will be a happy surprise if she gets in and trump is history.
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• Laguna Woods, California
27 Nov 16
@PainsOnSlate - I'm not holding my breath, either. Chances are that Trump will remain in office. However, I think we still deserve to know that the machines actually worked properly. If they didn't ... then we deserve to have the situation corrected.
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• Canada
27 Nov 16
@DeborahDiane I agree with you but from what I've read, she already gave ti to Trump. In a perfect world if they could prove she earned it she would get it.
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• Laguna Woods, California
28 Nov 16
@PainsOnSlate - Seriously, I doubt they will find enough errors to flip the election. However, I think it benefits both sides to be absolutely certain the election is correct.
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• United States
30 Nov 16
I hope you did not give away too much money for this if it actually happened . . .
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• Laguna Woods, California
1 Dec 16
$10 -- It won't break me and I'm curious about whether they will find any problems. I don't think it will reverse the election, but I think we all need to know if there are problems with the election equipment ... and put everyone's mind at ease.
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• United States
1 Dec 16
@DeborahDiane well ten dollars would not have told me what I and a lot of other people know from former elections, machines are fallible
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• Laguna Woods, California
1 Dec 16
@enlightenedpsych2 - She has collected $6.7 million for the recounts. I agree that machines are fallible ... and we deserve to know just how fallible they are.
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@MALUSE (40086)
• Germany
25 Nov 16
Is there even the slightest chance that Clinton will be declared the rightful winner?
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• Laguna Woods, California
26 Nov 16
@MALUSE - My best guess is that there is less than a 1% chance that the election results will be changed. However, if they find that there are a number of voting machines that were producing inaccurate results, just knowing that could create havoc in this country. If we cannot trust the voting machines, then that is a serious problem! Mainly, I just want to know, with certainty, that the results are accurate.
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@Marty1 (33525)
• Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
27 Nov 16
@DeborahDiane that would be havoc in this country if we couldn't trust the voting machine. But then I can see how they can mess with the machines as I walked to the library on voting day and walked past the voting place a block away and I don't know if I was there too early at 10:30am or not because a friend did call and say everybody would probably wait to vote after work because there were not even people out there trying to get voters to vote for their local candidate. And one person helping hid mothet walk into the place. Don't know if he is voting. I decided I can't in good conscious like Trump anymore as I am still disturbed about him approving his sons on their hunting of exotic animals. (Monday is first day of hunting deer in pennyslvania so I sm a bit disturbed today especially because schools have had the day off of school since was in school over 25 years sgo..
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• Laguna Woods, California
29 Dec 16
@anniepa - Those hunting photos turn my stomach, too. I hope public pressure makes them stop.
@UncleJoe (9937)
• Virginia Beach, Virginia
1 Dec 16
Actually, you just contributed to the Clinton Foundation. You should read the small print. Trump has been saying from the beginning that the election was rigged. He just didn't say who rigged it.
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• Laguna Woods, California
1 Dec 16
@UncleJoe - That's OK ... I will donate to anyone other than the billionaires who will be "working" for Trump. Supposedly, these people are suddenly, for the first time in their lives, interested in helping the "common people." I have laughed at his appointees every evening as I watched the news. At least he is bringing me a lot of comic relief.
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@anniepa (27236)
• United States
28 Dec 16
@DeborahDiane How about it? So much for "draining the swamp"! What a fraud and how he played the voters who support him!
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• Laguna Woods, California
29 Dec 16
@anniepa - I completely agree! I loved your article about this ... and the drawing!