Herc is Officially Old

@JudyEv (325696)
Rockingham, Australia
December 3, 2016 6:32am CST
With all my posts about Herc, our pet sheep, I hope you have learnt something about ovines. Here is a lesson about telling the age of sheep. The main indicators are the teeth or to be more precise the permanent incisors. Sheep do not have any teeth on the upper jaw but mature sheep have eight incisors and twenty-four molars on the bottom jaw. Instead there is a dense, hard, fibrous pad. Baby lambs have no teeth. By the age of two months, they have eight temporary incisors. Permanent incisors replace these in pairs with the two central teeth appearing first. When this happens, the sheep is said to be a 'two-tooth' (about 19 months old). As each pair of incisors appear either side of the previous pair, they become a four-, six- then eight-tooth or 'full mouth'. The corresponding ages are roughly 22 months (4-tooth), 32 months (6-tooth), and 36 months (full-mouth). Sheep of the same age may show different dentition depending on breed, dietary conditions and other factors. At some stage after that, a progressive deterioration means the sheep starts to lose teeth. This is described as 'broken mouthed'. Teeth become longer with wide spacing and eventually fall out. Once all the teeth have gone, the sheep is known as a 'gummy'. Herc is now broken-mouthed so is officially old. He kindly agreed to show his 'broken mouth' for the edification of myLot readers.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
3 Dec 16
He will qualify as very old when he finally resorts to dentures.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
4 Dec 16
@JudyEv lucky sheep, I love porridge.
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
I'll be making him porridge next. lol
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@JohnRoberts (109857)
• Los Angeles, California
3 Dec 16
Looking at the mouth and teeth is so funky looking.
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
That makes it sound really groovy, man.
• United States
4 Dec 16
He is a little senior, nice to see his teeth...lol
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• United States
12 Dec 16
@JudyEv , at least he has some...lol
@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Dec 16
They're not very clean are they? :)
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@moffittjc (118433)
• Gainesville, Florida
4 Dec 16
Maybe Herc should have listened to his mother and brushed his teeth when he was told! And he definitely doesn't floss between meals, I can see that from looking at his teeth! haha
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@moffittjc (118433)
• Gainesville, Florida
4 Dec 16
@JudyEv I can imagine the animals would probably not like the taste of the toothpaste at all, or the feel of it on their gums and teeth! Or, on the flip side, they may actually love the taste of it and try to eat or swallow it! haha I'm sure they probably make special kinds of toothpastes for animals.
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
5 Dec 16
@moffittjc It was the rinsing and spitting bit that was the problem.
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Dec 16
Yes, it's a bit gross isn't it? My father used to brush the teeth of his prize sheep before he took them to a show. I don't think he used tooth-paste though. :)
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• Midland, Michigan
3 Dec 16
I'm not sure that this image edifies me, but it surely is interesting. It looks to me like those incisors are on his upper jaw, but you said they don't ever have teeth on the upper jaw? Did I understand that correctly? So, how old roughly, is Herc? And how long may he live yet? Do you need to feed him more mashed foods or because of the hard, fibrous pad is he still able to eat fairly normally?
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
Sheep only have teeth on the lower jaw. I'll add another photo which shows it better. Herc is around 13 and looks very good at the moment. I'm hoping he'll live another year or two. He eats fairly normally but as he loses more teeth it will get harder for him. He gets some sheep pellets now just to keep him in good condition and I'll increase the amount if he starts to lose weight. I guess it won't be the easiest to eat them but he'll get more nutrition from less food with pellets. Sometimes sheep do better when all their teeth have gone.
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• Midland, Michigan
7 Dec 16
@JudyEv At first it still looked to me like they were coming down from the top not from the bottom. It looks like their teeth might be similar to ours in that the larger section is what they use to maw on much like our molars? I thought those were four teeth with sharp bottoms not flat tops. Thanks for the newer image.
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Dec 16
@MarshaMusselman I have been saying 'lose all their teeth' blah blah but I really mean they only lose the 8 incisors. There are 24 molars that they will have to still chew up their food.
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@DianneN (246710)
• United States
3 Dec 16
Welcome to the club, Herc! I still love him.
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@DianneN (246710)
• United States
3 Dec 16
@JudyEv I know you do, and I hope so. He's my favorite sheep!
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Dec 16
@DianneN I'd like to be really impressed but you probably only know one!
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
He should be okay for ages yet. We keep a close eye on him. :)
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@rebelann (111160)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Dec 16
Now that's something I had no clue about. It does bring up one question though, how long do sheep generally live?
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@rebelann (111160)
• El Paso, Texas
3 Dec 16
I hope he has too @JudyEv hopefully he'll live another few years
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
Herc is about 13 we think but should go a couple more years. Paddock sheep might live 10 to 12 years. It depends on the treatment they've had. Herc has it pretty easy so hopefully he has a few more years left.
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• Philippines
3 Dec 16
Does he have senior citizen card? at least he was proud of it.
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
He should qualify for a card then his pellets might be a bit cheaper.
@PatZAnthony (14752)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
4 Dec 16
Sad that even the animals age, isn't it?
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Dec 16
It is sad and generally they come to the end of the line before we do. Cockatoos (and I guess turtles) are the only ones likely to outlive their owners.
@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
3 Dec 16
Thanks for the education, but you say that sheep don't have any teeth in the upper jaw, and then go on to explain how many they have at various stages of their lives.??
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
4 Dec 16
@JudyEv I thought that's what you meant, but when I looked at the picture it really looked as if they were on the top jaw. Now I look more closely I can see that isn't so.
@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
The teeth are all on the bottom jaw. I'm edited it now to say that. Sorry for the confusion.
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@RasmaSandra (73365)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
3 Dec 16
Well old or not I still say long live Herc! Give him a virtual hug from me. Tell him there's a crazy lady online who lives sheep.
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
If he gets much more popular he'll be wanting to go on FB! And thanks, I'll give him a hug. He quite likes hugs as long as he's been fed first!
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• United States
3 Dec 16
Awww poor Herc hope he manages to hold onto those few teeth for awhile longer
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
They used to clip their teeth as they found it easier to feed with shorter teeth but they don't seem to do that anymore.
@Morleyhunt (21737)
• Canada
3 Dec 16
Having raised lambs for a number of years these are facts I wasn't aware of. I do know how badly those sharp teeth could mangle you whe you tried to get a tablet down their throats. Next season we settled for shots. My son in law was pretty good at doing it for us.
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
They can also really crunch if they get something back onto the molars.
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@Lucky15 (37346)
• Philippines
3 Dec 16
oh Herc and looks like, he indeed kindly agree about showing it to us :))
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
He said 'anything for myLotters'.
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• United States
3 Dec 16
Poor old guy will need his feed ground up for him soon.
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
Yes, I guess that will be the next step.
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• United States
3 Dec 16
I know a good dentist!
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
3 Dec 16
Can I have his name please? lol
@KnehKnah (3584)
• Philippines
4 Dec 16
Wow, Herc is not camera-shy! BTW, thank you for extensively writing about Herc & his family. I learned from you again!
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Dec 16
Thanks. Actually he was jammed in a corner and didn't have much option but to show you his teeth.
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@KnehKnah (3584)
• Philippines
7 Dec 16
@JudyEv Got no choice but to say, "cheese!"
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Dec 16
@KnehKnah And when I let him go he said 'Baaaa'.
• Eugene, Oregon
16 Dec 16
Truly, we have learned things about sheep we never knew. You really know a lot about them and I'm sure Herc appreciates that.
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• Eugene, Oregon
16 Dec 16
@JudyEv It could happen!
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Dec 16
Haha. That's a nice way to put it. It is my dream that one day, a myLotter somewhere in this great universe, will be at a quiz night and be the only one to know the answer to a particular question - and all because of me!
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
16 Dec 16
@JamesHxstatic We all need a dream in life don't we? :)
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@just4him (306079)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
6 Dec 16
I just assumed all animals had a full mouth of teeth. This is all new information and quite interesting. Poor Herc is getting old. How old do sheep normally live?
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@just4him (306079)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
7 Dec 16
@JudyEv I know it was in the teens. So that's a good age for a sheep then.
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@just4him (306079)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
7 Dec 16
@JudyEv You said he's 16 right?
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Dec 16
@just4him I can't remember if I said he was 16 or 13. I think it is 13.
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@CRK109 (14558)
• United States
4 Dec 16
I've always loved having a pet in my life, but I get sick to my stomach when I realize they are getting old. My Ruby is 13 now and she does sometimes show signs of her age. She also plays around like a kitten at other times, and that just makes me laugh out loud. I've loved getting to know Herc.
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@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
8 Dec 16
@CRK109 Some new owners may not put up with all the funny little quirks that 'old' owners have come to accept.
@JudyEv (325696)
• Rockingham, Australia
4 Dec 16
It is possibly a good thing that we outlast most pets as, at an advanced age, they might find it very hard to adjust to a new owner. It is certainly hard when we lose our pets though.
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@CRK109 (14558)
• United States
7 Dec 16
@JudyEv You are right that it would be difficult for my cat to have a new owner.
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