Kaiser Permanente will FEEL MY WRATH!

@TheHorse (205554)
Walnut Creek, California
January 22, 2017 11:55am CST
Kaiser is my medical provider. My doctor has the interpersonal social skills of chalk. Two weeks ago, I emailed him to order a refill for my back pain meds. I got a canned message from his assistant saying that I could order through the pharmacy. But the meds are a controlled substance, and I had been instructed to order through him. By the time I sorted things out and got my got my meds (more than a week after I originally requested them), I had run out. In fact, I had run out four days before I got them. Fortunately, my back wasn't so bad those days. But what if it had been heart meds? Or diabetes meds? Or psych meds? I hope Kaiser makes oodles of money. But I wish they were more in the business of keeping their patients safe and sane. My illegal planting is not about to stop. In fact it may escalate. Kaiser is going FEEL MY WRATH. Here's a picture of my Kaiser snow peas as of last Friday. I hope your medical provider is not as good at putting up walls as mine is. I never did get to speak to a human.
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@PatZAnthony (14752)
• Charlotte, North Carolina
22 Jan 17
It's a mess! People all over are having these issues, even cancer patients.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 Jan 17
That is terrible. I can joke about it because my life is not in danger, and I can stand a little pain. But if people's lives are at stake, it's not a laughing matter. What can be done?
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 Jan 17
@CoralLevang I worry about increasing social anxiety in the young, because they prefer to interact with technology than with humans. But there's no excuse for doctors not communicating with their patients, even if it's by electronic means.
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@vandana7 (98778)
• India
23 Jan 17
@CoralLevang .. Aw....I keep thinking of Hatley ...wonder how she is being treated..
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@paigea (35669)
• Canada
22 Jan 17
We just deal with a doctor and a pharmacist. The pharmacist deals with the insurance provider. What are Kaiser peas?
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 Jan 17
They are the snow peas I have secretly planted at Kaiser Martinez.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 Jan 17
@paigea You didn't know about my time in jail for illegal planting?
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@paigea (35669)
• Canada
22 Jan 17
@TheHorse I see.
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@DaddyEvil (137145)
• United States
28 Feb 17
I can't believe they would be so blase about something so important as your pain meds, pony! WTH? Do they think you only get them so you can be the big man at the party? And you can't even talk to a human? (I call those automated machines and play with them until I figure out what will get me through to a live person... I don't put up with machine nonsense! That's just a way to keep you from getting personalized service... I don't put up with that more than once from any place I call!) LOL! My phone customers love me because I tell them how to bypass the machines and talk to a live person! (grinning at you!) If putting you off getting your meds on time seems like it is going to be a problem, call the machine and start telling it you want the operator. Usually you can dial 0 after the machine starts talking. Some machines will just start talking again. If that happens, you've got an easy one. Just hit 0 every time it starts talking. After the 5th time, most machines will say, "I'm sorry you are having trouble, let me put you through to a live person." If the machine talks over you saying "Operator" or when you dial 0 then you will have to wait until the machine wants a response from you. (The worst thing you can do is remain silent. The machine will hang up on you every time!) Instead of giving the machine a response it lists, unless what you want is on the list, either say "operator" or dial 0. The machine will give some kind of response. If the response is not to pass you to a live person, then try saying "operator" again or dial 0 again. Keep doing that... Most machines will only keep you in limbo for so long before they are required to pass you to a live person who can deal with you. The places you call really do want your business, they just want your business without dealing with you or your special requests. They will deal with you IF you make them. This is just advice from someone who cares. If you choose to continue letting machines tell you what to do, that is your business. I don't and don't feel like anyone else should, either. I hope this helps.
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@DaddyEvil (137145)
• United States
28 Feb 17
@TheHorse No, not shooting themselves in the foot, increasing their revenue. Look at what you just said and then think about it from their standpoint. See what I mean?
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@DaddyEvil (137145)
• United States
4 Mar 17
@TheHorse Yes, and get less money, too.
@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
4 Mar 17
@DaddyEvil But if they didn't stress people out, fewer people would be sick, and they could kick their feet up and see fewer patients.
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• Eugene, Oregon
23 Jan 17
My friend in SoCal who had the bone marrow transplant nearly three years ago has always been pretty happy with Kaiser, but not being able to get through to your doc is a real pain.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 17
I think their specialists are good. My knee with the repaired/replaced ACL is stronger than the other one.
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• Eugene, Oregon
23 Jan 17
@TheHorse That's great!
• Eugene, Oregon
5 Mar 17
@bagarad It sounds as if many errors were made there. I think his doctor friend should have told him if he knew about the cancer. I would not want health info withheld from me ever.
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@JudyEv (325584)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Jan 17
We are lucky enough to be able to speak to humans at the moment. I wonder how long it will continue or if we too will have to deal with machines soon?
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 17
@JudyEv I wish I could talk to maybe my great-grandparents. I would like to know whether the profit motive was as strong then as now, or whether there was a time when "providing good service" or "helping others" was the norm.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 17
Is the same true in larger Australian cities?
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@JudyEv (325584)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Jan 17
@TheHorse I think so. We do get a lot of recorded messages on government sites. It can be hard to get to a human at those times.
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@fishtiger58 (29823)
• Momence, Illinois
23 Jan 17
sadly it's all about the money
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 17
@fishtiger58 And then robots conduct the surgery?
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 17
Sadly, that's the way it seems. I don't look forward to the days when Dr. appointments are like the drive through line at McDonalds. You tell the machine your symptoms, they use the same algorithms doctors use, and they give you a diagnosis.
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@fishtiger58 (29823)
• Momence, Illinois
23 Jan 17
@TheHorse It could possibly be not that far away.
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
24 Jan 17
How horrible. I ran out of refills and didn't know it until I went to order them from the pharmacy. Luckily, my pharmacy will give me meds until the prescription comes in from the doctor. You can live without thyroid meds, but it makes your body out of whack and challenges your health and psyche. I feel bad for you though. How nerve racking! Your peas look good and cared for with their own planter.
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
8 Feb 17
@TheHorse How rude! Guess they didn't want to feed anyone. LOL
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
13 Feb 17
@TheHorse Really? You must have inspired them to garden, or maybe there is another vigilante.
@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
8 Feb 17
@mommaj I bet some of them ate my snow peas, the varmints. They planted roma tomatoes in their stead, which I feasted upon at will.
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@jstory07 (134388)
• Roseburg, Oregon
23 Jan 17
I hope net time ou et them a little faster. My the time you see a Doctor when you are in pain you could actully die. Sorry but that is true.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 17
I'm lucky that I just had to suffer lower back pain for a few days.
@amadeo (111948)
• United States
22 Jan 17
i have no word on mine.But could say a lot
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 Jan 17
I hope yours is better than mine!
• United States
22 Jan 17
I had Kaiser long ago and did like them, I do not have them, now but they are my closest ER and help me quite bit. I do know others like my dad has a hard time getting prescriptions refilled for some reason. I always have a hard time reaching my doctor , so I email them, faster than the automated phone system
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 Jan 17
My knee surgery doctor was excellent. So was my original doctor, who retired.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
22 Jan 17
I can't complain in this respect. I always speak with a human being.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 Jan 17
I'm jealous!
@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
22 Jan 17
@TheHorse We even have an office in our town and I can talk to real people in person.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 Jan 17
@MALUSE That's a good thing. I generally don't go to Kaiser without an appointment. Their phone system makes it pretty hard to get in touch with a human.
@Freelanzer (10745)
• Canada
23 Jan 17
Don't have that problem here. I hope they get their act together and you don't have to go through that again.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 17
Thanks. It's weird being up against an entity that large. I feel like a peasant, armed with a hand-made bow and arrow, trying to take over a castle armed with cross-bows and small cannons.
@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
23 Jan 17
With my spinal injuries, I'm in constant pain but never use pain meds @TheHorse . When the pain level hits 15, I'll use an Icy Hot Patch and that works really well. I've gotten so use to an 8, that I really don't pay attention. Have you tried the patches? I pulled a muscle in my back the other day; put on a patch, and by the next day the pain was gone.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Jan 17
I have. They don't work for me.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Jan 17
@nanette64 Thanks! I'll hop into my teleporter after I get some progress notes turned in.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
25 Jan 17
@TheHorse Oh dang; I'm sorry to hear that. I know what you need.....a really nice, long massage. I'm available.
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@DianneN (246525)
• United States
23 Jan 17
We have used Anthem Blue Cross Blue Shield for years and have never had a problem with them. Hope things are better with them next time. Our doctor deals with them. We just pick up our meds at the pharmacy. Your peas look quite healthy!
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Jan 17
@DianneN I'm just glad you have a good provider. I DO think Kaiser's specialists are good. I got ACL replacement surgery for $5.00 fifteen years ago. It's better than my other knee now!
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@DianneN (246525)
• United States
25 Jan 17
@TheHorse I'm not familiar enough to respond.
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@DianneN (246525)
• United States
25 Jan 17
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
8 Mar 17
Lately the issue is not always with Insurance companies. Many times lately, it could be the Doctors and even many times the pharmacies. Just seems like everyone quit caring and trying to help the patients these days. But when we are paying out such Big bucks anymore you would think they would want to help even more.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
8 Mar 17
Maybe the thrill Is gone, to quote a famous blues player. They just want to cash their paychecks and go home. I'm not sure.
@rebelann (111124)
• El Paso, Texas
1 Mar 17
I refuse to go to doctors anymore, all they seem to do is line the pockets of the pharmacies while repaying student loans. I've done much better finding holistic remedies for my back condition except for the surgery I had on the C4 or C5 vertebrae about 20 years ago. I wish I had a green thumb like you, I have no luck trying to grow veggies.
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@rebelann (111124)
• El Paso, Texas
1 Mar 17
I tried sunflowers here and had minimal success @TheHorse but it's way too dry and gets way too hot in the spring for them to thrive .... not that I've given up, I still have some sunflower seeds, I just need to find a way to keep them wabbits from gettin to em before they hatch
@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
1 Mar 17
I thought I had a black thumb until I realized that I could grow corn and sunflowers in Oakland CA!
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@Jessicalynnt (50525)
• Centralia, Missouri
23 Jan 17
the plants of rebellion amuse me, but it may be time for a new dr
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Jan 17
You are right.
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@DeborahDiane (40049)
• Laguna Woods, California
23 Jan 17
@TheHorse - So far, things have gone well for me with Kaiser, but I can understand why you are frustrated. Hope things go easier in the future.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Jan 17
Thanks. Next time I need meds, I'm going to "request" them two weeks ahead.
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• Laguna Woods, California
24 Jan 17
@TheHorse - I think ordering your medicine a couple of weeks in advance is a smart idea.
@just4him (305792)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Jan 17
Wow! You had to deal with an automated robot through the whole process? I think you need to change providers.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
7 Feb 17
Sigh. I've been with them for years. If only medical providers understood (they should) that taking to a human is soothing, increases oxytocin, decreases cortisol, and leads to a healthier immune system.
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@just4him (305792)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
10 Feb 17
@TheHorse It's tragic that so many companies are going to automated phone systems and doing away with the human factor. It does make a person more frustrated with it.
@teamfreak16 (43421)
• Denver, Colorado
23 Jan 17
No, I get my medical through the VA. They are pretty good about not doing so. At least here at this clinic, anyway.
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@TheHorse (205554)
• Walnut Creek, California
25 Jan 17
That's good to hear. We hear horror stories abut the VA now and then.
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