Are Poverty, Illegitimacy, and the Nanny State Creating Feral Children

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@DWDavis (25812)
Pikeville, North Carolina
March 22, 2017 5:14pm CST
In America today, there is a growing subculture of feral children, born to single mothers in the lowest socio-economic strata who started having babies in their teens, many as early as 8th grade. Their fathers either left as soon as they made their genetic deposits and most likely wound up in prison, or wound up dead, so these children have never had a positive male role model in their lives. The mothers have no idea of how to raise a child, because they are usually the product of similar circumstances. As a result, we have a growing population of children, with another born every year, who are not growing up, they are growing feral. They lack basic social skills, manners, respect for self and others, and have no coping skills other than the fight of flight response evolution had ingrained in human kind by millions of years or eat or be eaten. This feral nature is then honed by the “street” mentality of their community. These kids are taught that any and every slight, real or imagined, must be answered with violence, or they will be thought weak and will become a target for every thug and thugette in the ‘hood. This horrendous situation has been fermenting in the poorest neighborhoods of America since the Great Society of LBJ first allowed fathers in these poor communities to abdicate their responsibility for their offspring to the Nanny State, and that same Nanny State began rewarding women for becoming and remaining single mothers by punishing them with a loss of benefits if they married their babies’ fathers. Fifty years into it, we are seeing the terrifying results born out in elementary, middle, and high schools around the country as the feral children are growing up with no basic knowledge of what it takes to live as part of a civil society. They disrupt school, start fights, bring drugs into the class room, and attack teachers, administrators and fellow students with little or no provocation. They refuse to obey rules, treat adults with respect, or act civilly toward other students. These are the same behaviors they exhibit at home and in their neighborhoods. When teachers and principals try to correct this abhorrent behavior, they are verbally – and sometimes physically – attacked by the student and/or the student’s parent. Administrators at higher levels too often turn a blind eye to the havoc such children wreak in the classroom and tend to blame the teacher for not being able to work with the student. Perhaps those administrators, from DC, to the state capitols, to the local school board, to the Central Office should try spending the night in a zipped mummy bag with a couple of hungry feral cats and dogs inside. Then they’d get some sense of what classroom teachers face on a daily basis. As I said in a previous post, public education is a sinking ship, and everyday someone puts another torpedo into its hull. Until the public wakes up and admits the problem is there, nothing will be done to keep the ship from going under.
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@Morleyhunt (21737)
• Canada
22 Mar 17
Not sure how to respond. My son inlaw was teaching Cleve level classes for would be paramedics. They did not do the required work, failed the exam and ultimately failed the course. Now the parents of this same student are suing the school and the teachers for failing poor Johnny. Say what....he did not fulfill the requirements. His parents are supposedly intelligent people. What moronic lawyer would consider taking this case...imagine if he loses...he's going to be the next one sued. What is happening to our society.
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@DWDavis (25812)
• Pikeville, North Carolina
23 Mar 17
It's part of the endemic problem which reached it's pinnacle under Obama. Never accept blame for what you've done. Never take responsibility for your own actions. It's always the teacher's fault, the school's fault, someone else's fault, but never the person's own fault for not doing what they are supposed to do.
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@Morleyhunt (21737)
• Canada
23 Mar 17
@DWDavis we can't blame Obama in Canada. There seems to be a sense of entitlement. It starts already in the first few years of school. Everyone passes...whether or not they learn the appropriate material.
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@JudyEv (325755)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Mar 17
My friend taught engineering at the Technical College in West Australia and he wasn't allowed to fail a student. He had to reset exam papers until everyone could pass. Some of the 'students' who'd been retrenched and sent to do these courses. They didn't want to be there anyway. I hope none of them every get to build a bridge.
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@Poppylicious (11133)
22 Mar 17
But sadly these feral children are not just the product of broken homes. Some of them come from decent homes, with two loving parents.
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@DWDavis (25812)
• Pikeville, North Carolina
23 Mar 17
I know the type of child you're referencing, but those are usually spoiled children who've been overindulged by well-to-do parents who've showered them with money but no love. They may have some similarities to the feral child, but their thuggery is more likely a put on to impress others, not an integral part of their personality.
@TheHorse (205716)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Mar 17
That happens, and I've seen it too. But on a percentage basis, is is not as common to see completely feral children coming from middle class homes with loving parents.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
22 Mar 17
this is a really sad situatioon that needs to be remedied
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@DWDavis (25812)
• Pikeville, North Carolina
23 Mar 17
Unfortunately, to save public education, we may have to destroy it first.
@katsmeow1213 (28717)
• United States
22 Mar 17
This cycle needs to be broken.. but anything of actual use that could be done would be considered by most a breach of their rights. Forcing birth control on women of a certain age (men as well, with technology and advances in medicine, we should have come up with some form of male contraceptive by now!) would be a start, but certain groups would be up in arms about that! Can't even offer birth control without some groups freaking out about it!
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• United States
23 Mar 17
@DWDavis How about teaching the young men to respect women also.. that women are not possessions, not toys they can play with and then leave when things take a serious turn? It all boils down to self esteem.. and I don't mean the "everyone gets a participation award" type of self esteem. Young women and men need to be taught to respect themselves and their own bodies, then they won't give their bodies so freely to the first person who flirts with them. The stigma won't help.. because they don't care what others think. The only opinions that matter are their friends and family, who won't buy into the stigma because they're in the same situation. Forcing fathers to pay child support won't help.. the government already does the best it can, mostly because child support would go straight to the welfare system if the mother and child are on public assistance.. but as Horse said, you can't garnish a wage that doesn't exist. It all starts with education, but that can't be done at school alone.. as obviously the kids aren't listening! It's got to start at home, but that's not happening because the parents don't care..
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@DWDavis (25812)
• Pikeville, North Carolina
23 Mar 17
A return to morality, like re-establishing the stigma for having children out of wedlock, might help. Forcing the fathers of these feral children, the fathers who are alive and not in jail, to pay child support would help. Educating the young ladies to refrain from having babies before they finish their education and establish careers would help, too.
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@DWDavis (25812)
• Pikeville, North Carolina
23 Mar 17
@TheHorse No, but you can seize their property and sell it off.
@LadyDuck (458006)
• Switzerland
23 Mar 17
This is so sad and it's hard to respond. I can only imagine how difficult it is to be a teacher with all those growing problems. It's a long time that many children lack a real family and the example of good parents capable to teach them what they need in life. I cannot see a solution to this growing problem.
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@DWDavis (25812)
• Pikeville, North Carolina
23 Mar 17
I try to reach my students and be a positive role model for them, but with over 100 students in 4 classes plus my enrichment group, it is exhausting trying to deal with all the emotional, psychological, and sociological issues they bring with them to school.
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@LadyDuck (458006)
• Switzerland
23 Mar 17
@TheHorse You do a lot for those kinds, but as you say it's unfortunately not enough.
@TheHorse (205716)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Mar 17
I'm "in the trenches," and I cannot see a solution either. I DO help kids one at a time, but it's just not enough.
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@JudyEv (325755)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Mar 17
I agree completely. I don't know what else to say really. It isn't quite that bad here yet but it's only a matter of time.
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@TheHorse (205716)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Mar 17
As you know, I have worked in this environment for over 20 years, and I find this to be an excellent post.
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@JudyEv (325755)
• Rockingham, Australia
23 Mar 17
@TheHorse I thought so too. I do think that the stigma of being an unmarried mother was a 'help' in some ways. Then the pill came along and free love, etc but obviously these young mums aren't bothering about the pill or anything else.
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@TheHorse (205716)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Mar 17
@JudyEv No, these are people who are from a culture where unwed mothers are the norm, where birth control is a posteriori (abortion) if at all, and fathers are mostly absent.
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• United States
23 Mar 17
i've been saying they're borderline feral for a long time.you can't correct them at all anymore and they know it.so of course they're gonna act as they want. i couldn't have even got away with a 78th of what i've seen these kids do.
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@DWDavis (25812)
• Pikeville, North Carolina
23 Mar 17
Society has become so lenient and instead of wanting to correct the behaviors, wants to "understand" what it is that's brought on the behavior, and to be "tolerant" of these poor kids who just see and live life differently than the rest of us.
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@vandana7 (98826)
• India
23 Mar 17
Interesting post. I think DNA tests and records maintenance should be mandatory so that the child's DNA can be matched with the parent, and parent should be made responsible for the child. Effectively, some part of the parent's earnings should be deducted directly for the child without the parent having to do anything. Time people became responsible.
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@vandana7 (98826)
• India
23 Mar 17
@TheHorse .. Actually, I am against artificial insemination. When there are many children rendered helpless, due to calamities, help should go to them. Because I am against artificial insemination, I am against surrogacy as well, and sperm donations too. It automatically forces people to start working. One can't be enjoying at the expense of another hard working person who is paying taxes when he or she could use it for some necessities. May be I am old fashioned...but I do not accept that a person should be allowed to sell sperms or eggs, and do nothing.
@TheHorse (205716)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Mar 17
But many of the sperm donors have never worked in their lives and have nothing to give.
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@Shavkat (137214)
• Philippines
23 Mar 17
They should find other option. Awareness is also good thing.
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@jstory07 (134457)
• Roseburg, Oregon
23 Mar 17
That is a problem that will never be taken care of.
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@DWDavis (25812)
• Pikeville, North Carolina
23 Mar 17
What you say may be true, but does that mean we shouldn't stop trying?
@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
23 Mar 17
You are so right about the entire situation @DWDavis . Parents today don't have 'the talk' with their kids and with there being plenty of Birth Control Methods today, there is no excuse for pregnancies. Parents aren't even parents anymore. Just sit the kid in front of a computer, iPad or cell phone; that's their new babysitter. Parents today are deaf, dumb and blind.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
24 Mar 17
@DWDavis Or the girls are following their mother's path to collect Welfare.
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@DianneN (246720)
• United States
23 Mar 17
This state of being should be demolished. It's a farce!!!
@Deepizzaguy (94514)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
23 Mar 17
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on why kids today look up to bad role models like the artists that sing that hate music.
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@JohnRoberts (109857)
• Los Angeles, California
22 Mar 17
This is such a grim picture and worse is that some of the so-called civilized educated children act feral.
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@DWDavis (25812)
• Pikeville, North Carolina
23 Mar 17
@TheHorse I've seen so many young teachers come into the profession with lofty ideals only to see those ideals shattered by contact with reality.
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@DWDavis (25812)
• Pikeville, North Carolina
23 Mar 17
The kids who put on the act are doing what kids do, gravitating towards the lowest common denominator. Because of the restrictions on teachers and schools, the feral children look like they're able to get away with anything and answer for nothing.
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@TheHorse (205716)
• Walnut Creek, California
23 Mar 17
@DWDavis THis is true. My younger teacher friends think the older teachers "must be doing something wrong" and are idealistic. The veteran ones, themselves mostly disillusioned Liberals, just shake their heads and sigh.
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