Gross Morals

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By pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
Derry, Northern Ireland
March 24, 2017 12:35pm CST
What is "human nature"? After reading this particularly grisly account of what two like-minded human beings did to another of their own kind, I have my doubts that there is such a thing as "human nature". For anyone to inflict absolutely horrific acts upon any creature, especially a member of the same species, beggars belief. And I really despair when I read of individuals who join forces to inflict such suffering upon another individual, recording events to keep for posterity. What is it that drives such behaviour? Gross-out warning for the report that follows, do not proceed if you are of a sensitive nature!
A married couple who pleaded guilty to a catalogue of horrific sexual assaults on a woman they kept as a virtual prisoner will be sentenced in April.
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Mike
@Mike197602 (15487)
• United Kingdom
24 Mar 17
would be nice to know when exactly miss x raised the alarm. as she had 4 kids with him that suggests to me she may have known for some time about what was going on.
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AmberLynn
@ScribbledAdNauseum (104632)
• United States
24 Mar 17
My thoughts exactly!
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
24 Mar 17
@Mike197602 I imagine more grisly details will come to light after sentencing, you are right. I don't think I really want to know more...
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Mike
@Mike197602 (15487)
• United Kingdom
24 Mar 17
@ScribbledAdNauseum I doubt the full story will come to light as they seem to still have some reporting restrictions even now. Maybe after sentencing.
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rebelann1949
@rebelann (111073)
• El Paso, Texas
24 Mar 17
Unfortunately it is human nature to inflict horrors on others just look what the Romans and Mayans did. Thankfully there are people like you and me who wouldn't dream of doing those kinds of things.
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
24 Mar 17
I think that part of human nature that drives inventiveness is to blame. A sense of civic or moral duty is what seems to be missing in such cases.
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rebelann1949
@rebelann (111073)
• El Paso, Texas
24 Mar 17
That could be true @pgntwo What really gets me is that whole mob attitude so many people seem to get. It's one of the things that makes humans so damn scary.
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
24 Mar 17
@rebelann Gang mentality is oft so - behaviour changes when your buddies are there to back you up. Perhaps it is a form of pack mentality.
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DE
@DaddyEvil (137145)
• United States
31 Mar 17
............... I think your warning was aimed at me, pgn.... I should have heeded the warning..... SMH!
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DE
@DaddyEvil (137145)
• United States
4 Apr 17
@pgntwo Yeah, if you think of it next time you deem it too much for me, actually say that, please! Thank you!
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
4 Apr 17
@DaddyEvil I shall try. Sentencing happened today, I have not looked it up on the BBC website yet...
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
31 Mar 17
Yes, sorry 'bout that - the article turned my stomach too, but it was germane to my post... The warning was necessary, I think.
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Jo Ann
@akalinus (40432)
• United States
24 Mar 17
There is something wrong with people. I don't know what. Their mental health is not good or there is something wrong with the water or air and it affects people. I hate hearing or reading the news anymore.
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
24 Mar 17
Environmental conditions, interesting viewpoint. I hate the news for similar reasons, the main one being "Good news does not sell newspapers".
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
27 Mar 17
@akalinus You have hit the nail on the head there, for sure.
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Jo Ann
@akalinus (40432)
• United States
27 Mar 17
@pgntwo There is plenty of awful news to fill the pages.
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Judy Evans
@JudyEv (325348)
• Rockingham, Australia
25 Mar 17
This is really shocking. We had serial killers (husband and spouse/partner) in Perth who enslaved then killed several women. Their actions included making them dig their own graves. So depraved.
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
25 Mar 17
I wonder if those who inflict such crimes share a common genetic make-up? Some particular combination of genes that results in such behaviour...
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Judy Evans
@JudyEv (325348)
• Rockingham, Australia
26 Mar 17
@pgntwo It would be interesting to know if that is the case.
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Judy Evans
@JudyEv (325348)
• Rockingham, Australia
26 Mar 17
@ChesneyM That's an interesting article!
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PLETHOS
@Plethos (13560)
• United States
29 Mar 17
no respect for others well being or life in general .
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
30 Mar 17
@Plethos It is truly a mystery.
pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
29 Mar 17
Absolutely none. But why not? Upbringing? Genetics? Where does the capacity for compassion go in such cases?
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PLETHOS
@Plethos (13560)
• United States
30 Mar 17
@pgntwo - brain damage of some kind since birth ? lots of variables.
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vanny
@vandana7 (98728)
• India
9 Apr 17
Had trouble in pressing that like...words fail me ..a child, a person younger than me, a person who is in some way disadvantaged in the situation when compared to me, an elderly person ...they are all definitely not to be cheated, taken from, or hurt. Rape is simply ..............short of words...
AmberLynn
@ScribbledAdNauseum (104632)
• United States
24 Mar 17
So the Bakers brought the woman from England to Ireland? How did they even manage that I wonder? It shows premeditation.. I don't know much about the laws over there but I wonder that Miss X isn't also being charged. It seems as if she played roll of some sort, if not small... Poor woman, and equally poor husband who had no idea where she was, or if she was even alive, for eight years!
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
24 Mar 17
There is freedom of movement between the UK and Ireland for nationals of either country. Smuggling of people across the border between one and the other is not unheard of, either.
M.-L.
@MALUSE (69416)
• Germany
24 Mar 17
A similar case has recently happened in Germany. I think you're wrong here. It **IS** human nature to do such things. Animals don't do it.
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
24 Mar 17
D'you know, I think you're right. Humans are one of the few species that experience boredom, and the old saying "the devil makes work for idle hands" has never been so close to the truth...
pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
24 Mar 17
@MALUSE The perception is beasts have no morals. But the moralistic ones on this planet are much worse in so many ways.
M.-L.
@MALUSE (69416)
• Germany
24 Mar 17
@pgntwo I know I'm right. We tend to insult animals when we say, "They behave like beasts." Beasts don't behave badly. They are what they are. They have no negative character traits.
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paigea
@paigea (35635)
• Canada
24 Mar 17
these events are just too awful to imagine. I hate to think there such despicable humans.
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
24 Mar 17
Despicable. Yes, that sums up such behaviour.
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DJ
@Daljinder (23228)
• Bangalore, India
24 Mar 17
The intent of harm, the evil exists in each one of us.
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
25 Mar 17
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
24 Mar 17
Strange, isn't it? I think so anyway.
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DJ
@Daljinder (23228)
• Bangalore, India
25 Mar 17
@pgntwo As the current situations go, strange is our new normal
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Ron Rybs
@Ronrybs (17837)
• London, England
24 Mar 17
I like to think there is human nature and then there are the people who have difficulty acting like humans
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pgn
@pgntwo (22412)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
24 Mar 17
I guess, like most things, it is a continuum - and such acts are the product of those at the ends or edge of that continuum. The extremes, if you like.
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