The myLot "Less than a second" Club

@owlwings (43915)
Cambridge, England
May 12, 2017 6:36am CST
Today I am inviting new members to join this club ... if they dare! Entry is easy! Just make your first post an advertisement for something - include your referral link or advertise an orthodontist in Palm Springs or a packer and mover in Hyderabad or a lawyer in Melbourne. Then see how long it takes for your account to be banned and your post removed. Alternatively, you can just copy and paste an article from anywhere on the Internet, though you are less likely to qualify for membership this way because Admin will have to check where you copied it from and that takes a little of Admin's valuable time. Perhaps I should have posted the names of a few current contenders here but the one's I might have seen long enough to register their names might already have been here longer than a second! Also, it would really be of no earthly use to anyone. *************************************************************** The REAL discussion starts here! How effective do you think the devices of satire, sarcasm and irony are in making a point about something? Do they make you laugh or do you always find such 'humour' irritating and 'cheap'? In case you didn't know, irony applies to situations where the outcome is different from or the exact opposite to that expected - someone posting a long (and good) article against plagiarisnm which they have copied from the Internet (I have actually seen this happen) would be ironic. Sarcasm is [i]saying[i] something opposite to what is meant - "I really like doing the dishes ... not!" is sarcasm. Satire is the use of exaggeration and sarcasm (and perhaps irony) to make fun of someone to expose their stupidity or mistakes.
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18 responses
@Mike197602 (15487)
• United Kingdom
12 May 17
sarcasm etc can be useful at times but only when speaking to users fairly fluent in english. with many users here it goes over their head and they take things literally
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
12 May 17
That's what I said in my comment, too.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
12 May 17
@Mike197602 Beginners have more important things to learn than understanding sarcastic remarks. Being able to understand double meanings or indirect remarks comes much later. The members who mostly use such stylistic devices do it for themselves, not in order to further other members' knowledge of English. They find themselves funny and amuse themselves by doing it. My English is on a high level and I can understand when members are being funny but I can still think like a beginner. I've tried to explain to certain members what it feels like to be the addressee of their witticism yet to no avail.
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@Mike197602 (15487)
• United Kingdom
12 May 17
@MALUSE the good thing though is if they ask for an explanation or you end up explaining something that'd broaden their knowledge of english so it's sort of a double edged sword.
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@LadyDuck (457822)
• Switzerland
12 May 17
I love satire and sarcasm, sometimes it's a bit hard for me, non English speaking, to understand all the details. The meaning of this discussion is by the way very clear.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
12 May 17
Thank you. I have been told that it might seem 'arrogant' but your response vindicates me.
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@LadyDuck (457822)
• Switzerland
12 May 17
@owlwings No, I do not consider you arrogant at all. I am pleased to learn a little more of the English language.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
12 May 17
I tend to not want to join such clubs, but I do quickly hustle those eligible into them.
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@rebelann (111124)
• El Paso, Texas
12 May 17
I think the worst part is when you read a newbees discussion only to find that newbee had been here before. I wish some of them weren't allowed to come back.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
12 May 17
Some are pretty quickly detected and removed again but Admin is fair and those who admit that they got off on the wrong foot are allowed to try again.
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@rebelann (111124)
• El Paso, Texas
12 May 17
Yes, those I don't mind @owlwings in fact I think I've had some interesting discussions with one or two of them.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
12 May 17
@rebelann I have known several who became really good and valuable members of myLot after one (or even more than one) 'false start'.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
12 May 17
What you and other members, whose native language is English, repeatedly forget is that playing with language doesn't make much sense on an international site where many members are happy if they master basic grammar and vocabulary. Irony, sarcasm, satire are only for people with an advanced knowledge of the language. I bet that many members - old and new ones - don't understand what you're saying in this post. Using all these devices is quite arrogant in my opinion.
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@Poppylicious (11133)
12 May 17
Putting '... not' at the end of a sarcastic statement makes it far less sarcastic! Real sarcasm doesn't require it. :)
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
12 May 17
I completely agree. I did think about putting 'not' in square brackets but decided against it because it is what people do say often and I thought that it might make it clearer to those who were unsure.
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@MALUSE (69413)
• Germany
12 May 17
The 'not' at the end seems to be an English invention. It strikes me as silly. It looks as if the sarcastic person is afraid of his/her own courage. I've never seen or heard it in Germany.
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12 May 17
@MALUSE It does, doesn't it. It's akin to saying, in my humble opinion.
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@allknowing (130066)
• India
13 May 17
18 responses and still no demand. The sad part is those who should be reading this do not and this applies to many posts here that are not seen by those who should
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@allknowing (130066)
• India
14 May 17
@pgntwo A perfect example
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
13 May 17
As Bilbo Baggins points out, at his 111th birthday celebration in the first part of The Lord of the Rings: "I don't know half of you half as well as I should like, and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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• China
12 May 17
I wonder why some people who plagiarized could get away with it here on mylot that keeps a good watch for them.Satire would make me laugh and have my hatred for plagiarism slaked.
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@sjvg1976 (41131)
• Delhi, India
12 May 17
I always find such humour cheap and irritating. Why should we consider someone a reason to laugh at.
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• United States
12 May 17
satire and sarcasm is often not understood....but telling it like it is straight isn't either.
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@sueznewz2 (10409)
• Alicante, Spain
12 May 17
your post made me smile... I like them all in small doses... so long as they are not too offensive or rude and are done more in humour... but I don't use it much myself, on here especially.. as I'm not sure that many international members would ' get it ' but like I said at the begining your post made me smile...
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@pgntwo (22408)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
12 May 17
A clever article is always appreciated - anything that makes the reader think again, or look twice... provided it has not been plagiari(s|z)ed, of course! It's all about that elusive double-take...
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@boiboing (13153)
• Northampton, England
13 May 17
There's just no fun in cheat spotting on myLot because people are SO obviously frauds.
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@JESSY3236 (18885)
• United States
12 May 17
lol That's funny and sad.
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@owlwings (43915)
• Cambridge, England
12 May 17
You get my point entirely, I think (for the first part, at least, which is really just an illustration of sarcasm).
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
12 May 17
I am here to fun and enjoy so mostly I take things in this manner. I think things are going on smooth and no complaints at all.
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@jstory07 (134388)
• Roseburg, Oregon
14 May 17
Everytime I see one of those discussions I report it and do not like or respond to it.
@cahaya1983 (11121)
• Malaysia
5 Dec 17
Well, I think they're only effective for those who actually get the message. The thing is though, the intended audience are usually the ones who either don't bother to read it or just too "clever" to get it.
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@JediYoda (1646)
• Samoa
12 May 17
@Owlwings It's good that you brought this things which is a matter of concerns for every myLotters into the open. Thanks.
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