Does Anyone Know The Answer To This?

@poehere (16040)
French Polynesia
September 10, 2017 11:37pm CST
If a person writes a discussion, members respond to the discussion, the author doesn’t comment back and then deletes the post. The author of the post is the only one who benefits from this discussion or does the members who responded benefit too? I understand people delete their own discussion from time to time. But normally they have commented back to the other members who responded to this discussion. However, if the discussion is deleted and the person never answered their responses is that really fair to us? Would this be like gaming the site? Only the author of the discussion earns on this discussion, according to the rules. Or am I missing something here?
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@LadyDuck (109431)
• Switzerland
11 Sep
We own the rights on what we write, so we are free to delete the posts. Some people never comment back even if they do not delete their posts. I take note of their names, because they do not deserve another comment. Selfish writers who only care to get comments are not good myLotters.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
This is so true and I also do the same. It seems awful selfish to me that a person does this. They are earning off our responses and then once they have enough comments they go and delete the post so they don't have to comment back. It just seems so unfair to all of us who spend our time to read and comment to them. I just don't see how fair this is to the people on this site. It is almost cheating us and the site to do this. A discussion that has a lot of interest and responses earns the stie money and help the site. Once they delete this the site is also losing and so are we.
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@LadyDuck (109431)
• Switzerland
11 Sep
@poehere I agree with you on this, even if I noticed that a user wrote a very angry post saying that she has the right to delete all her posts, that it's not against the rules and blah and blah. Well, even if it's not against the rules, I will not continue to comment on the posts of the serial deleters. I agree that if everybody would do the same, this would be a serious problem for this site.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
@LadyDuck These people earn money off the site. However, once they delete the post the site can no longer earn money from what they have written. This defeats the purpose of this site. Plus, these people are the only ones earning. So in a way they are gaming the site for their personal gain. They are not giving back to the site or to the other members on the site. This is cheating all of us.
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@JolietJake (36482)
11 Sep
Nope, the people that responded didn't earn anything, unless the author 'liked' the responses and waited an hour or two after 'liking' them for the algorithm to pay the people involved before deleting it. (Edit) - Looks like I had one of mine deleted by Admin last night...no idea how many people may have responded to it, but I can't respond when the discussion isn't there...
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
This is exactly what I thought. I have no idea how long they waited or even if they liked the comments before deleting their discussion. It is not your fault a discussion was deleted by Admin before you could read and comment back. Therefore, it is not the same as some people do to earn on this site. In one way when you look at their profile it looks like they don't write a lot and all they do is interact. It is misleading to others when this happens. Thanks. .
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@just4him (82325)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
11 Sep
So liking the responses and commenting to them is when you start earning on a post @JolietJake?
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@JolietJake (36482)
11 Sep
@just4him You don't earn for anything you yourself do, you earn for the responses/comments and 'likes' you receive from other users.
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@rebelann (28296)
• El Paso, Texas
11 Sep
If I read it correctly then the only time you get financial credit is if a response has been commented on.
This is where you will learn all about the myLot Earnings Program
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
That's what I thought too. They have to comment back on our response for us to earn from the response. If hey delete the post and never respond back we don't earn on the discussion, but they do.
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@vandana7 (55380)
• India
11 Sep
I am surprised.
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@rebelann (28296)
• El Paso, Texas
12 Sep
Actually @poehere if you write a discussion then do not comment on the responses you gain nothing. To earn you have to interact and writing a discussion isn't interacting unless someone responds and you comment on the response.
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@dodoazo (6621)
• Philippines
11 Sep
Nope! If the author posts his article, he doesn't receive any earnings. When he deletes it with a considerable number of comments, I think his earnings are reduced along with those who left their comments. That's how I understand. I think it's better we ask, @GoAskAlice on this matter.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
I know when a post is deleted by us, our earnings are not affected. But if the site deletes it the earning are affected I think. People delete their posts from time to time on the site and our earning weren't affected when they did this. If the post was up and already paid the month prior and they delete it, they still received their money. But who ever responded to the discussion received nothing because they didn't comment on the post. That is how I read it.
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@topffer (28617)
• France
11 Sep
Earnings are not reduced anymore when a discussion is deleted by its author, and several members have adopted a strategy of deletion after a few days.
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@JolietJake (36482)
11 Sep
No earnings are lost when you delete something.
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@andriaperry (25842)
• Anniston, Alabama
11 Sep
I do agree because you never know what the answer was.But Its their discussion so they can delete it if they want to.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
But if a lot of people answer and they never comment back they are the only one earning. We just wasted our time responding to this discussion. I don't dispute them deleting it, I just want to know if it is fair that they do this on the discussion and never answer the comments before deleting it. It seems like they are gaming the system because they are the only one earning on this. What do you think?
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@sugartoes (31382)
• Greencastle, Indiana
11 Sep
@poehere I don't think it would be fare, I'm on here all day long & I go through some posts in the day & I hate when I answer a post & don't get no responses. that's just unfair & respectful.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
@sugartoes I feel the same way. But to have a lot of responses and delete this post without commenting back is just wrong. The author is the only one who is gaining from this site. Same with people who never answer their notifications. They are earning and we are wasting our time. That is not fair either.
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@jstory07 (57619)
• Roseburg, Oregon
11 Sep
I am not sure how that works.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
I am not sure it is a fair practice to do this either on the site. I know if we respond to the discussion the author earns on this. But if they delete it and never respond back we don't earn on this. I think this is how it works.
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@AkoPinay (9897)
• Philippines
11 Sep
@poehere that's my understanding too
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@vandana7 (55380)
• India
11 Sep
Logically, they say we earn for interacting. So if somebody writes a post, and I have responded, I have interacted. The person posting gets money for his or her post, and we get for our response. If the person replies to our response then he or she earns more.
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• United States
11 Sep
In two years I have not del. any of my discussions. I see no reason to -not sure why others seem to think it's a wise decision to del all of theirs
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
I don't delete mine either. If they answered their responses before deleting them, at least you would have earned from your time. But to delete them and not even acknowledge the efforts of the other member is selfish. They are the only ones who gain from this site. The site is very fair in all other aspects except this one. That just doesn't seem right to me and others that certain people do this so they are the only ones earning from here.
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• Eugene, Oregon
11 Sep
I have never seen a reason for deleting any either.
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• United States
11 Sep
@poehere If you were talking abut 50 60 70 dollars in loss that might be worth worrying about...but this is pennies.
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@singhisback (2278)
• Jalandhar, India
11 Sep
I'm not sure but I guess if you didn't receive any like or comment on your respond than you won't earn anything.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
You are right. You need to receive something on your response to show it added value in order to earn on this site. So a person who receives a lot of responses and doesn't bother to answer one fo them, then goes and deletes the discussion is the only one earning on this site. We lose out because they deleted the discussion.
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@AkoPinay (9897)
• Philippines
11 Sep
Yes, I believe it is unfair to the site and to the commenters when a discussion is deleted that's why I understand why some sites do not allow members to delete their posts. Imagine if all members delete posts. The site will surely "die".
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
I can see deleting very old posts that weren't so interesting or didn't get a lot of attention. But to write a new post, get a lot of attention on the post and then go and delete it, isn't fair to the people who responded to this post.
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@sugartoes (31382)
• Greencastle, Indiana
11 Sep
@AkoPinay I delete my post BUT the ones I delete are like 4-5 mos old done & over with post is what I call them. I try to keep my pretty fresh in a way.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
@sugartoes This is fine and it doesn't affect anyone at all. But a new post that you just wrote and you have a lot of responses on it shouldn't be deleted immediately. This is what I am saying here.
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@Sreekala (18778)
• India
11 Sep
It is unfair if the author delete discussion without commenting back to its responders. However, we are helpless on the same situation as we can't do anything. What I feel, most of the members are kind enough to respond back to the responses they receive.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
No, we can't do anything and they can delete anything they write. It sort of looks like we were wasting our time with certain people who do this. I think from now on I will note who I comment on and go back now and then to check on the responses. I left a comment on a post last month. Yesterday another member commented on my comment. When I went to go and read this I saw the author never responded to a single comment. I wrote another comment about this. This time, after I said something they went in and commented to everyone who left them a comment. Then they said to me I don't understand what you are talking about. I told them again it was them I was talking about and how another member had to make the one and only comment on their post. Never heard back on that comment.
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@Sreekala (18778)
• India
11 Sep
@poehere Some people do not bother to comment back. I also experienced the same even today too. If I watch any one does not have the habit of commenting back then definitely I won't reply to that person any more. We can spend our time with those who are interested on 'interaction'.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
@Sreekala You are so right. I try twice and if I never hear back I stop. Lately I have just been interacting with people I know will respond back. I don't have all the time in the world on this site. So when I am here it is nice to talk with people who want to talk with you. I am starting to ignore all the rest.
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@Asylum (45961)
• Manchester, England
11 Sep
Unfortunately you are right, in such a case only the author of the discussion would actually earn anything.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
This was how I thought it worked. As long as they wait one day after the last response they will earn on what they did even if they delete it.
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@Asylum (45961)
• Manchester, England
11 Sep
@poehere I have always considered it to be in poor taste not to reply to responses, especially since this is the whole idea of the site. Nevertheless, some people are still reluctant to reply.
@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
12 Sep
@Asylum I am now starting to think it is selfishness that does this. They want to earn, but they don't care about the other person earning as well.
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@vandana7 (55380)
• India
11 Sep
I am going to check what JJ or alex have to say to this one..lol. I am not guilty of deleting as many posts...lol.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
If you read the rules it is basically simple. We write, you answer, I earn. Then I comment back, you earn. If I go in and delete it and never say a word back I am the only one earning on this discussion and you don't earn anything. A response needs a comment back to show that your response has added to the discussion in order to earn for you.
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@vandana7 (55380)
• India
13 Sep
@poehere ...that interpretation does seem a bit hard to digest because it tells me I don't earn anything for writing. Anyway, I came here because one of the myLotters posted that her responses have been disappearing. That is not ok!!! So it may have something to do in the tool, rather than actual intent of the person. Check this @JolietJake can you explain why that thing mentioned in the link happened?
A couple of days ago @manikarnika sent a personal message asking me what happened to my response to her discussion . I was as puzzled as she was .I felt bad...
@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
13 Sep
@vandana7 I saw this too. I responded to a few topics and when I went back my response was gone. I ersponded again. I have no idea why but maybe it was the person who deleted them. Not sure. Will read this and see what is happening on this.
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@topffer (28617)
• France
11 Sep
I think that a response or a comment need at least 1 like to earn from them. I told recently to a member deleting discussions after a few days (this one comments to the responses but the discussion is already deleted), that I had nothing against this strategy, but that if everybody was doing the same myLot would earn less and would perhaps be no more profitable. I got for response that it will never happen, because never all members will delete their discussion. I would not call that gaming the system as it is authorized. I can see a few reasons to delete a discussion times to times, but I see only one to delete all of them after a few days : it is to be able to recycle these discussions later on another writing site or a blog, and to earn several times with the same lines. I have seen here several discussions that I had read on Bubblews before.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
This could be true not sure if it is happening or not. All I know is when I see something like this writing a group of discussions on the same topic and sparking interest from a lot of members then deleting them all seems a bit strange to me. Then, starting over with a new set of topics and doing the same things gets me questioning why they do this. Especially if they don't respond back to our comments. Their stats show they responded to a large number of discussions on the site, they have a large number of comments and their post count is very low. Why do this? Why not erspond back to their comments so the others on this site can earn like they are earning.
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@topffer (28617)
• France
11 Sep
@poehere The ones doing this that I know are commenting. I spot members not commenting back, and if it happens several times I stop to respond to their discussions. I have also stopped to respond to the few "segregationists" we have here (like those responding only to discussions started by native English speakers), even if they comment back when I respond to their discussions.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
@topffer That is so wrong to do this. I do not care where the person is from. If they write a good discussion, I respond back to them. That would be as bad as if you and I only wanted to respond to French speaking people who start a discussion. The ones I was noticing has been writing several discussions over a few day period of time. Then a week or two later they are gone. Deleted and not a single comment I made on them answered. I thought that was incorrect and in a way it is earning off of this site and the site can't earn off of them. It is gaming the site in a way, if you ask me.
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@owlwings (37718)
• Cambridge, England
11 Sep
As with nearly all systems, there has to be some kind of trade-off between good and bad. I believe that, on the whole, the current system by which earnings are calculated is as fair as most in that it attempts to reward people according to the 'value' of their contribution to a discussion as decided by the number of interactions (responses, comments and likes) it receives. Like any system, it cannot be perfect and your post outlines one of the ways in which it may not work well. Another which might be mentioned are that the number of interactions a post receives may be due more to the popularity (or notoriety) a particular person has accrued than to any actual quality of their discussions. In spite of these failings (and of deliberate attempts to 'game' the system in these and other ways), I believe that the earnings algorithm is as fair to most members as it is reasonably possible to be.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
Please don't get me wrong Owlwing. I agree this system is really fair for all the members here. It is a very fair algorithm to calculate what a person does on this site. I am just a little shocked that some people are only here to benefit from others and do what they do. Last month I left comments on more than one post. They were all ignored and so were the other comments. Another member came to that discussion and he commented on my response. I made a comment about the author in my next comment. I basically told them how I felt about writing a discussion and moving on without even answering their comments. The person came back and told me they had no idea what I was talking about and why would I say this to the other member. But in the meantime, they did make a comment on all of their responses. It only took them 26 days to do this. I commented again and told them I was talking about them. I saw how many discussions were written after this one and how they never acknowledged one response on any of them. But these people who have so many responses and they wait a week or two and delete them so they don't need to spend the time to answer all of the responses make me mad. It isn't like everyone on here has the time to respond to all of these discussions and not earn from their efforts. These people are being rather selfish in how they work on this site. I don't have time to be here all day either. However, I try my best to comment on all of my responses and a lot of times it is more than once. I also find time in between to respond to other discussions. I don't get that many comments back. Way less than what I have responded to. I even wait over a week and hear nothing. As time goes on I stop commenting on so many discussions and only go to the ones I know people will comment back to me on now.
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@owlwings (37718)
• Cambridge, England
11 Sep
@poehere There always have been and always will be people like that. I think that, after a while, those people who enjoy a discussion learn to avoid them. It really is not worth bothering yourself about them. They mostly aren't consciously trying to 'game' the system: they just have no idea about how conversation works.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
12 Sep
@owlwings I think you're right on this one. I give them two chances and after that I never try again.
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@DianneN (53169)
• United States
12 Sep
I have no idea. I'm too busy trying to play catchup now.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
12 Sep
Like me too. Wel,l anyhow here is the response from several people who knew the answer. If the person does delete the post nd never likes it or comments back we don't earn from them. Only they earn off of it. Since you comment on my post I do earn from your comment. I responded back to you and liked your comment so now you earn from your comment and my answering you back. Tthat was how I thought it worked and was a little surprised to see several people write and delete their posts when they have responses on them.
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@DianneN (53169)
• United States
12 Sep
@poehere Thanks for the explanation. I truly don't know why anyone would delete all their discussions. It's not like they are slowing down the computer or anything. Now back to commenting and liking before someone deletes a post on me.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
12 Sep
@DianneN That one is funny. I was just angry when I saw this a few time. Making a comment and waiting to hear back. I went and checked and all the discussions were deleted. They had new ones up and had comments on them, but they never acknowledged the person. I am stopping to comment on these people's post now. I think it is unfair and a waste of our time.
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@GoAskAlice (4147)
• United States
12 Sep
It might be considered bad form, but there is nothing in the guidelines against it. Gaming the system would be more like posting something, getting some mileage out of it, deleting it, and then re-posting it at a later date as a new post.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
13 Sep
Whos to say they don't do this. We can't check if the post was posted 6 months back and they deleted it and posted it again. It is gone and there is no proof this has happened.
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@anorona (196)
• Philippines
11 Sep
The question is, is it really the author who deleted the discussion? I have read from one member that some of her discussions suddently been deleted.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
I am not sure. I know the site has deleted a few discussions in the last few days due to a conflict between members and it looked like a breaking of the rule problem. The ones I have seen were up for around 4 weeks before they were ever deleted and they went unanswered.
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@anorona (196)
• Philippines
11 Sep
@poehere I guess that explains the deletion of the post. In my opinion, I dont think the author will delete discussion because getting response from it will give them credits , too.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
@anorona You will be surprised at how many authors do delete what they have written on here. I am tired of responding to a lot of these discussions and in the end finding the author refused to comment or has deleted the discussion. Now I basically comment on people I know will respond back to me.
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@just4him (82325)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
11 Sep
I think the only way the author earns is if he interacts with the comments on his or her post. If the post is deleted without answering any comments, I don't see how it would earn. Perhaps someone else has a good answer for this. That is only my opinion of how it works.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
JJ and Owl did. You will earn on this discussion, even if you don't respond back. I saw this morning all of my comments and how much I earned here from them. So these people earned on it and the more comments they received the higher their earnings were. However, they didn't give back. They only took from us and walked away. Not so fair on their part.
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@just4him (82325)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
11 Sep
@poehere No it wasn't. I'll look them over. I always learn on comments.
@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
12 Sep
@just4him When you sign in after being gone take a look at your earning. You earned when you were away. Everyone who commented on your discussion or answer you back earned you money. Now we can only earn off your discussion when you respond back to our comment or you like what we have said. Then we are both earning now off your discussion. Now when I answer you back like now you earn again from me off my discussion. Hope you understand this and I said it so you could understand this.
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@Jotomy (5714)
• India
11 Sep
if they delete the post then they will lose their earnings i think and what for they delete.
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
11 Sep
No this is not true. If they wait a bit of time before they delete the post they will still be paid for what they did because they had people responding to their discussion.
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@Jotomy (5714)
• India
12 Sep
@poehere oh but still i have doubt on this, if deleted anything then they loose their earnings accordingly let us wait for the admin words
• United States
12 Sep
@poehere If deleting a discussion means losing earnings then people can just wait till they get paid before they delete the discussion... But then won't those earnings still be taken away from the new balance?
@SHOHANA (6681)
• Bangladesh
14 Sep
Well I think you already get your answer from @rebelann you should concentrate to interact with friends here and you'll get success on your way
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@rebelann (28296)
• El Paso, Texas
14 Sep
Thank you for the shout out
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@poehere (16040)
• French Polynesia
14 Sep
I was interacting with different people and noticed this. They don't comment back so you are wasting your time on here. There is a lot of stuff to do on here and people like this take up time. So it is better to ignore them and only go to the discussion that the people will interact with you.
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@rebelann (28296)
• El Paso, Texas
14 Sep
I agree with you @poehere
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