When I share my feelings..

@vandana7 (98746)
India
October 15, 2017 10:22am CST
About being unmarried and childless.. And how people have snide remarks or behavior Or pester us to adopt them or write properties to their children It is not to gain your sympathies. It is to make people understand how it feels at this end of the fence and that it is not appreciated. And if people do understand they can share the thoughts with their neighbors, friends, and family as and when the occasion comes. That way, the next generation and even others are sensitized towards fellow human beings going through something like me. Things they would not have thought can hurt ..and why they hurt. Why some jokes are only used with childless hurt... Why it can't be taken for granted that such people have nothing better to do with their lives and retirement nest eggs than to spare them for people they do not consider worthy of them, and that the choice is theirs. Denying them their rights is not decent. And if people realize, they create more harmonized environment, for themselves and others. In the ending ..it is about peace, isn't it? Some of which begins at micro levels. So if I am at peace, I can send peaceful vibes across the universe so can others like me. Why disrupt that process with unreasonable and greedy thoughts and disturb the peace within because universe paid back in bad vibes?
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@responsiveme (22926)
• India
15 Oct 17
My best friend is not married, my good friends don't have children and never adopted.It is their choice, I don't go on doling out sympathy., I just enjoy their company and what they mean to me. I wonder why people say hurtful things...It certainly doesn't grant them any peace
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
15 Oct 17
I have had bosses say that to me, what do you need increments for, you don't have kids..so no liabilities, or colleagues asking me to adopt their daughters or write properties to their daughters, or relatives gloating that their kids will get it all, or even online friends saying adopting them is the best solution for me as far as they can see, and even going as far as telling me that I don't know how it is in old age, as if I am babe in the woods and they are wisdom incarnate.
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• India
15 Oct 17
@vandana7 I always believe in the saying,"those who matter do not care and those who care do not matter."
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• India
16 Oct 17
@vandana7 these things are certainly wrong and since it is you who is facing the situation others from outside can't really tell you what to do But one thing I have learnt is to first accept the situation...Am talking about me...And then go on to change it. Also it is very good if one has a couple of really good friends
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@rebelann (111091)
• El Paso, Texas
15 Oct 17
I suppose I am lucky then, I too am single without children but so far few people have made references to my circumstances. I do know that the hispanic community here thinks all women should have children but I disagree, I did not want to bring children into this world we are living in right now, it's a cruel place in many respects and back then (I'm 68) it just seemed to be such an unfair place for women.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
15 Oct 17
Not only for women! Even men. In our society women of course. But it pretty much depends. I am also glad I don't have kids much as I love babies. I can play with many babies, and shower my love on them, instead of confining me to one or two.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
15 Oct 17
@rebelann .. Here ...once the person crosses thirty four or thirty five..teasing starts.
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@rebelann (111091)
• El Paso, Texas
15 Oct 17
Back when I was young enough to have kids I never noticed single men having the same kinds of problems as single women @vandana7 they got paid more for doing the same job and were given more chances to advance than women.
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@Srbageldog (7716)
• United States
16 Oct 17
I am also unmarried and childless. I get fed up with other women telling me that I will never be a "whole woman" because I don't have children. Friends with kids tell me that I don't know how wonderful life can be because I don't have a family of my own. They rub in my face that they have amazing kids and then tell me I can babysit theirs since I can't have any. Because not having kids means I have no life of my own and would want to babysit their brats? I get told that local activities aren't meant for people like me, they are meant for families and if I want to do anything for entertainment I can just travel to another city because I don't have kids keeping me at home, and if I don't enjoy being around kids at certain events (like going to a movie or a nice restaurant in the evening that is meant for adults but rude people bring their kids with them, who are rowdy and noisy) then I should just stay home. Because the world is meant for people with kids, not those of us without them. When I used to work at my old job, my boss wouldn't give me as many hours because "I didn't have kids and didn't need as much money as the moms." Did I not have bills? Did I not need to pay rent? There is a lot of discrimination against childless women. People act like there must be something wrong with us and if you have a partner, he must not really love you because he won't have kids with you. (I have heard that one many times before.) Women who have children often act like they are superior to me because they are moms and that's a part of womanhood I will never know or understand. They act like their uterus is made of gold because it can produce offspring. It is infuriating. I was never sure if I wanted to have kids and earlier this year found out that I can't have them. It is hurtful when people rub it in my face that I will never know that part of life. Or when they act like I'm someone to be pitied because I will never know "unconditional love" like they do. Personally I do not think women need to be mothers to have fulfilling, meaningful lives, but apparently most other women believe otherwise. Men don't tend to care one way or the other, in my experience, although occasionally one will ask when I'm going to have kids. Some people can't stand that there are adults in the world who don't have children I guess.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
16 Oct 17
Aw...I identify with this so much...oh so much...I can only say sorry. I am nasty nowadays. I get tired with constant barbs and snide remarks and ridicule. I pass back the pain. Let them burn in it and learn some sensitive way of existence.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
16 Oct 17
@Srbageldog Earlier, I used to be appalled that I am turning into nasty b itch. But I realized that if I don't others like me would keep on suffering it. To an extent, I am in better position. And unless I use nastiness, things can get worse. So yes, I use it. I have no issues now with being nasty. I will, however, try to get laws framed against such things, and then may be pack my nastiness to where it belongs. lol.
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• United States
16 Oct 17
@vandana7 I am starting to get nasty about it myself. I am sorry you have to deal with this too. It would be nice if people just minded their own business and let us live in peace!
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@RasmaSandra (73241)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
15 Oct 17
In my life I have lost three children one stillborn. Long ago realized I would have no children and if anyone was hurtful enough to make some unwanted comments I never spoke to them again. No reason why everyone in this world has to have children.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
15 Oct 17
It is annoying when they offer me children. I have taken to openly telling them, give them to orphanage, I have a better looking choice. Or something to that effect. I don't want to be nasty like that. I feel bad, but more often than not it is provoked rather than meanness on my part.
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@andriaperry (116860)
• Anniston, Alabama
15 Oct 17
I do not have children and I am divorced. When I was younger it bothered me being the only person without a child. But I was never childless, All the nieces and nephews made my house their hang out and the parents were okay with it because they knew I would take care of them.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
15 Oct 17
In this case, it is not like that. Here, responsibilities were way too much when young. But slowly and steadily, I planned for old age, and was honestly lucky with the real estate boom, otherwise I would still be laboring under home loans for at least another 10 years. The point is many keep saying, give to my children, what will you do. Hell, I don't like them, why should I give to their children. I have an idea to whom I want to give. That is horrible way of joking. They do call it a joke. That is ridiculing.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
15 Oct 17
@andriaperry .. Do you like them asking you like that? I am not ok with that...am I being oversensitive here? I got annoyed with an elderly lady asking me...write to my children. Her son is older than I. Would he not die before me...if it comes to that..
@andriaperry (116860)
• Anniston, Alabama
15 Oct 17
@vandana7 Ohhh I get it. I also own a lot of real estate and often people ask me to leave it to them in my will.
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@Hannihar (129379)
• Israel
16 Oct 17
That was very well put. I was married and had a miscarriage and I was angry wanted to hit pregnant women because I did not think it was fair that I could not be a Mom. I never got the chance again and it took me a long time to figure out why I lost my baby. It didn't make me feel better, but, it made me aware of why it happened. Judaism and Israel is a family place and it is very hard because the only family I have is my cat. I am very glad to have her, but, not happy that we have no other family here to be with on our holidays. It hurts alot and I truly understand what you are saying here. I had someone ask if I had children and I told him no I do not have human ones. I have a cat and he did not understand. Instead he judged me and he had no clue why I do not have human children.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
17 Oct 17
@Hannihar .. Women should be knowing what that biological clock is all about and be sensitive about it instead of ridiculing others ..hey I managed to have kids, you didn't ha ha. In any event, I did not want to be a mother. I love babies, I don't like kids beyond seven or eight...I only like the innocent talk and inability to pronounce words properly, and innocent looks. Not stubbornness and rudeness that is part and parcel of growing up kids, nor shrewd and selfish behaviors of grown up kids.
@vandana7 (98746)
• India
16 Oct 17
Sometimes it feels like I am being picked by hyenas and vultures. I do fight back and I say what have I to lose. The society is not giving me any respect anyway.
@Hannihar (129379)
• Israel
17 Oct 17
@vandana7 vanny, I know very well to live in a society that judges you if you do not have a husband and or children. Only pet lovers understand when I say I have a cat and no human children. It is very hard. I married the only one I thought would ask me and so sorry I did, but, my biological clock was ticking and I wanted to be a mother and I did not get to be.
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@crossbones27 (48417)
• Mojave, California
15 Oct 17
Amen and never judge, only thing Americans love more than corporations is family/ That being said, not sure why all these countries that so embrace family want to move here. No values, straight greed and they hate colored people. Besides, Trump not letting anyone come here unless there us jail cell involved.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
15 Oct 17
You are so right...about no values...only greed and yes, they do look down upon colored people.
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• Mojave, California
15 Oct 17
@vandana7 Thing I hate we need, growth, but we all know the world is over populated. Corporate America's laws White man can not stand the colored people.. Poor people reproduce the most,, has to be some law. Mostly colored because white people hold down the colored/ Wonder who they will hire when they run out of white people and get done deporting people who were born here. There is no shame in our game, just straight rudeness of how whitey wants to run a country. There is more than one. Yet, people want to come here in waves, greed really does rule the world. All that racist crap, is dumb rich people or smart but not helping world not helping a country, but lets foot people to make a lot of money and then if gets bad we can leave country. Trump loves this. Build a wall. White people screwing colored people since day two because day one we all were colored.
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• United States
15 Oct 17
So on top of the ridicule, they want you to give your fortune to their children..oh my gosh..to hell with them.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
15 Oct 17
LOL.. not fortune...control of what little I have..lol
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• United States
16 Oct 17
@vandana7 I know that Vanny but you know what I mean hahah I figured you would laugh at that.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
16 Oct 17
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@jaboUK (64362)
• United Kingdom
19 Oct 17
I'm so sorry that you have experienced this sort of thing Vanny - there is room for all of us in the world - we don't have to all conform to the 'married, two kids' thing. Everyone is an individual, and I neither envy nor condemn those that have a different lifestyle from me - I just accept them for who they are.
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
15 Oct 17
If you are at peace then let it be.
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@fishtiger58 (29823)
• Momence, Illinois
16 Oct 17
Everyone's circumstances are different. Maybe they have not found the perfect partner, or they have fertility problems or just don't think bringing a child into this world is a good idea. To tease someone about their choices or problems is pretty mean. Sometimes when things in this world are just so bad it's unbelievable I think about my choice to have children, and while my sons are my life, I wonder did I make the right decision.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
16 Oct 17
Teasing like that is not considered mean. It is considered as "joke". Like hell. Have had a tenant who said you don't have kids you don't need the monies. Took me a little bit of threatening ways to get him to leave. Nobody wants to be unladylike. But the situation is forced upon us thanks to others behaving like vultures without even waiting for us to die.
@Daljinder (23228)
• Bangalore, India
17 Oct 17
This is something that people just need to get over it. It's high time already. It's your life, your hard earned money and your wishes. Let the greedy ones drool all over their floors. They dirty their own house.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
18 Oct 17
I have recently had a former tenant say that to me. LOL. Last year, after the great episode, I had the sales person at the ICICI Prudential say, you don't have any kids, put me as nominee. Then laughs and says I was just joking. Well that hurts and creates a need to set her bottom on fire. It is once too often don't you think? Time some laws were made against such kind of attacks. Once dad is no more, I will take this matter pretty seriously and get some laws made against them.
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@josie_ (9763)
• Philippines
17 Oct 17
One of my favorite aunt was a spinster (she passed away) but all her nieces and nephews adored her. She put many through college and was always the life of the party during family gatherings. Married life is not for everyone.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
17 Oct 17
I have done no such things, because I haven't had that much money. I have only had responsibility of my parent, and I do not feel obliged to get adoration of others by putting their children through schools and colleges since I have to take care of me in my old age, and my parent, and leave something for anybody who will look after me in old age. So yes, children of colleagues and friends are only welcome to play with me, I am not going to part with my meager resources for them. I will, however, spend on orphans in orphanage as they do not have high expectations and their education and upkeep can be accommodated in my budget. If I spend on orphans, two of them, I only part with what 300- 350 for their education. If I have to spend on relative, that becomes 1500 or so for one person which I can't afford.
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@josie_ (9763)
• Philippines
17 Oct 17
@vandana7 _She was actually a tightwad and spend her money wisely. Being able to help in the education of deserving relatives (not the lazy ones) was to her a worthy investment.
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@josie_ (9763)
• Philippines
17 Oct 17
@vandana7 _Your thinking is the same as my aunt. Help those who help themselves but not neglecting our own needs. Given how you describe your relatives, I see your reasoning.
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@nangayo (2291)
• Nairobi, Kenya
16 Oct 17
Not everyone has a perfect life we were made different and everyone is unique in their own way. There are many married and having more problems than those that are unmarried and there are also those with children who are more problematic that those without. I always believe there is a reason for everything in life and God makes us pass through all these with a reason. No use judging others.
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@vandana7 (98746)
• India
17 Oct 17
Oh yes, people think childless folks should help. As if they have no desires or needs. Which is irritating to say the least.
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@bluesa (15023)
• Johannesburg, South Africa
17 Oct 17
Yes, 40, never married, no children, but no one will dare tell me what I must do with what I own or how I should live my life. They can make silly jokes all they like, I live my life my way. You have the right to live as you want, vanny.