Not entirely the result that I was hoping for

@Asylum (47893)
Manchester, England
February 6, 2018 10:41am CST
After 7 or 8 months of scans, X-rays, chemotherapy and radiotherapy, I had an appointment with the oncologist today to discuss the progress so far. I was expecting a favourable result and the reduction of appointments to a quarterly visit. All in all that was basically what transpired, making it a promising prospect. However, when I mentioned the pain that I have experienced behind my shoulder blade and at the base of my back, I was informed that this was due to the cancer being in the bones. I was advised to take pain killers to compensate for this, along with the prognosis that the level of pain will gradually increase and require increasingly potent pain killers to control. It seems as though this information would not have been supplied if I had not mentioned my pain, which surprises me.
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@moffittjc (118365)
• Gainesville, Florida
10 Feb 18
I have had more than one doctor or nurse tell me over the years that they do this on purpose so as not to cause additional worry and alarm in their patients. People tend to freak out and over-worry when they hear negative medical news, and always immediately think the worst. Doctors want to avoid this scenario in their patients if they can, because they know that often it does not help the medical situation. It's quite the balancing act determining how much information a patient should know about their medical condition. Sorry to hear about your pain Barry, I hope you can find relief so that you are not in pain all the time.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
10 Feb 18
This would make sense apart from the fact that when she told me that I had stage 4 cancer she asked me if I had heard and understood what she had said. Apparently she was surprised at how well I took the information. I pointed out that the previous reference to tumours and the arrangement of a biopsy was clearly a prelude to such a diagnosis, therefore I was already aware. It makes little sense to withhold information afterwards, which simply makes the news worse.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
10 Feb 18
@moffittjc I raised the subject of the pain in the hope of being given a viable solution, but instead was told that it would only get worse. I currently spend several hours every day lay in front of a convection heater to dilute the pain, although this is not likely to continue to help.
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@moffittjc (118365)
• Gainesville, Florida
10 Feb 18
@Asylum Yes, as in your case, it simply didn't make any sense to withhold that information.
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@JudyEv (325255)
• Rockingham, Australia
6 Feb 18
Doctors seem to do this. I have no idea why. Vince has had a leaking valve in the heart for years apparently, probably since birth, but he was only told a few years ago whereas the doctors have known for ages. It does seem very remiss and I'm sorry the news wasn't better.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
7 Feb 18
I had assumed that the pain was related to either lying strangely during the night or maybe that my condition made me susceptible to the cold. Now it turns out that the bones are cancer ridden and the condition will increase with time. Had I not raised the subject I would still be unaware.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
7 Feb 18
@JudyEv Apart from this incident, I have been kept fully informed so far. I was hoping that the consultant could advise me on the best way to alleviate the pain, instead I was told that I can expect the problem to compound.
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@JudyEv (325255)
• Rockingham, Australia
7 Feb 18
@Asylum And it seems a bit under-handed to me. I don't think patients should need to be continually trying to work out what they should be asking and worrying about what they may not be being told.. Doctors should tell them what is going on.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
9 Feb 18
Can't they treat the bone cancer? It seems they should be treating it. Masking the pain is like putting a bandaid on a bleeding artery, not very effective in the long run. I am not impressed with the communication abilities of your doctor.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
9 Feb 18
I am awaiting an appointment for an MRI scan, after which maybe treatment may be offered.
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@jaboUK (64362)
• United Kingdom
16 Feb 18
It seems that doctors often don't inform you about everything. I'm sorry that the cancer is now in your bones as if you didn't have enough to put up with. My husband has had a heart condition for years, and last year one doctor casually mentioned his ongoing kidney problems. Apparently he has had them for years, but no-one told us.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
16 Feb 18
It is totally absurd. I am realistic enough to realise that I have little choice but to accept my condition. The consultant knows by now that I am not likely to overreact, whereas I do feel that I have a right to know the whole situation.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
16 Feb 18
@jaboUK During my first appointment with her back in May she actually commented on how surprised she was that I took the news of having cancer so well, which makes keeping secrets from me pointless.
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@jaboUK (64362)
• United Kingdom
16 Feb 18
@Asylum Exactly - it's your body.
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@garymarsh6 (23393)
• United Kingdom
14 Feb 18
I am so sorry to hear you are in pain Barry. I hope that they have managed to control it a bit better for you now. An important thing is to keep warm and to make sure you eat regularly.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
14 Feb 18
I have an appointment with my doctor tomorrow, so hopefully he will have some advice for me.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
14 Feb 18
@garymarsh6 A member of the Macmillan team are due to visit me today, so I shall enquire when she arrives.
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@garymarsh6 (23393)
• United Kingdom
14 Feb 18
@Asylum Well if he does not ask him to refer you to the pain management clinic or Macmillan team!
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@Courage7 (19633)
• United States
6 Feb 18
Cancer in the bones now...bone cancer after so many and long hours, days of treatments. That does seem odd that they only told you this only after you had mentioned the pain I agree.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Feb 18
That was what I thought. There seems no reason why I was not previously informed about this. Since this condition exists then it is a fact of life and has to be accepted as such, but the lack of previous knowledge made it quite a shock.
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@Courage7 (19633)
• United States
6 Feb 18
@Asylum In any case, no matter what they were trying to achieve by not telling you, this is against medical ethics and protocol is how I see it. It is wrong to not inform a person of his total condition.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Feb 18
@Courage7 I would have thought the same, but nothing would be achieved by complaining about it.
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@shaggin (71655)
• United States
7 Feb 18
I can't even imagine how terrible that would be to deal with pain in your bones. I had juvenile arthritis due to a disease I had and it left me with achy bones in my legs when there is extreme weather changes or heavy rain etc. I imagine what you go through and will go through is going to be so much worse
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
7 Feb 18
At present it is fairly tolerable, although I have had to go downstairs a few times around 3 or 4AM to apply heat to alleviate it. I am not looking forward to when the level increases.
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@shaggin (71655)
• United States
7 Feb 18
Did the chemo and radiation not remove the cancer?
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@celticeagle (158670)
• Boise, Idaho
6 Feb 18
You'd think so. I think they forget what all they have discussed maybe. Sorry to hear this. Dependence on pain killers is not a fun way to go.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
7 Feb 18
You may have a valid point there. These people see a lot of patients every day and cannot be expected to remember what has been said on each occasion.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
7 Feb 18
@celticeagle It certainly would so I must give the consultant the benefit of the doubt.
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@celticeagle (158670)
• Boise, Idaho
7 Feb 18
@Asylum .....That would be tough.
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@LeaPea2417 (36392)
• Toccoa, Georgia
9 Feb 18
I am sorry to read this.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
9 Feb 18
It was quite a shock to me at first, probably since it was unexpected. Of course I have little choice but accept the fact.
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@marlina (154166)
• Canada
12 Feb 18
So sorry that you are in pain. Yes, they should have warned you before.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Feb 18
Being warned in advance would not change my situation, but the news would have been less of an impact.
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@Tampa_girl7 (48886)
• United States
12 Feb 18
I'm sorry hat you are in pain
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Feb 18
I cannot understand why I was not prewarned about my condition.
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@ridingbet (66857)
• Philippines
7 Feb 18
are you on chemotherapy? i hope the cancer cells will be reduced
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
7 Feb 18
I have had chemotherapy and radiotherapy, so yesterday's meeting was to consider any next move. I was hoping that the treatment was over, but now I am waiting for an appointment for an MRI to determine the extent of bone damage.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
12 Feb 18
@ridingbet Unfortunately they have. I have been told that there is a danger of the spinal column being damaged, but so far it has not happened.
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@ridingbet (66857)
• Philippines
12 Feb 18
@Asylum i hope the cancer cells has not reached your back bones (spinal column).
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@nela13 (55702)
• Portugal
16 Feb 18
I am so sorry, that means that you will keep doing the chemotherapy? I don't understand why doctors hide such important information from you.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
16 Feb 18
I will be having an MRI to establish how damaged the bones have become, after which a decision concerning future treatment will be made.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
16 Feb 18
@nela13 My condition is terminal, but I would welcome a more comfortable interim period.
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@nela13 (55702)
• Portugal
16 Feb 18
@Asylum Hope the cancer cells Can be controled and you feel better soon.
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@dya80dya (33354)
16 Feb 18
It's so sad that they didn't find a cure for this illness. My grandmother had cancer in the bones. She was so optimistic and strong. And she had terrible pain.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
16 Feb 18
Once the cancer enters the bones pain becomes inevitable, but hopefully can be controlled.
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@maezee (41997)
• United States
6 Feb 18
I am sorry to hear this. I dislike the doctors that are not forthcoming with all the pertinent info to the patient.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Feb 18
From the very start I was given complete information regarding my condition and prognosis, but this part seems to have been omitted for some reason.
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@toniganzon (72285)
• Philippines
7 Feb 18
That's kind of odd. I think doctors should give every information to the patient and support to somehow alleviate the pain. They of all people know and are experts at this kind of illness. They should have mentioned it earlier.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
7 Feb 18
The oddest part is that if I had not raised the subject yesterday then I would still be unaware.
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• China
8 Feb 18
I find out that doctors tend to tell patients as less things as possible. As a whole,they have kept the cancer in check.Hope you will get better and better !
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
8 Feb 18
Withholding that kind of information seems very wrong to me.
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@RasmaSandra (73201)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
6 Feb 18
So sorry to hear this. Blessings to you and always all my prayers. There really are no words Surely this matter should already have been brought up. I did find this link though.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Feb 18
I was quite shocked since it was something that I was previously unaware of.
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• Defuniak Springs, Florida
7 Feb 18
They should of asked you if you were experiencing any pain. At least in my opnion that's what a good doctor would do.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
7 Feb 18
I was asked how I was coping on several occasions, but I considered this to be referring to how I was coping with the treatment.
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@Kandae11 (53678)
6 Feb 18
I can't understand why it wasn't mentioned before - they must have known.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Feb 18
Obviously, especially since it was mentioned as soon as I referred to the pain.
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