A peace too far... Ayodhya, Babri and Owaisi

@vandana7 (68712)
India
March 2, 2018 4:34am CST
Those who know me, also know that I have always condemned Babri Masjid being demolished by Hindu monkeys in Ayodhya in December 1992. What followed was Mumbai riots that lasted till January 1993, and burning of live people at Godhra, in 2002. My contention was that such issues existed prior to independence so the change in country's status implies, getting things on "as is where is" basis, notwithstanding the fact that a temple had existed at the site, which was demolished to construct a Mosque. In any event, there is no place of worship there now, neither that of Muslims nor Hindus. Sri Sri Sri Ravishankar dared to enter for mediation between Hindus and Muslims. Offer is, a large parcel of land to the Muslims elsewhere for constructing their mosque. Many peace loving Muslims are fine with it because they do not want hatred to flow into another generation. So did Hindus. Best outcome of the closure would be, the high strung Hindu and Muslim population would become friends once more since Hindus would be contributing to building their mosque for them. But Owaisi, a muslim leader only wants the judges to take a call. Me says, Owaisi and his friends do not love peace. Once the issue is closed, they would have no topic to incite violence during elections. I am sure our country's arch rival is watching and is deciding to use Owaisi's contention, to keep the country in turmoil.
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@josie_ (8018)
• Philippines
2 Mar
Where you referring to China or Pakistan being the arch rival watching? Politics is a dirty business and when you add religion into the mix, you are creating a dangerous situation as the Mumbai riots have proven.
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@vandana7 (68712)
• India
2 Mar
Both have joined hands in a way. So I can refer to them as one I suppose.
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@josie_ (8018)
• Philippines
2 Mar
@vandana7 _China is more concern about the over 400 military bases the US has encircled it like a noose around their neck.
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@vandana7 (68712)
• India
2 Mar
@josie_ The fact is, we live in a world where we cannot afford to ruin our neighbor, be it Pakistan, or China. We drop a bomb in Pakistan, water contamination ruins our water. China drops a bomb on India, it loses in terms of exports and consequently increases unemployment within the country. What the hell are we talking so harshly about? Get down to table for peace!!!
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@kanchan10 (3573)
• Kolkata, India
2 Mar
religion is poison. some powerful people uses that to their benefit.
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@vandana7 (68712)
• India
2 Mar
They made religion as poison. It never was.
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@kanchan10 (3573)
• Kolkata, India
2 Mar
@vandana7 nor it is today.
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@ptrikha_2 (10913)
• India
2 Mar
@kanchan10 someone once said that Religion is the opium of the masses. And some give heavy doses of this opium to others.
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@garymarsh6 (14610)
• United Kingdom
2 Mar
It is a shame this so called Muslim leader does not concede the gesture in a friendly manner. After all looking back at what the Persians did to the Hindu temples hundreds of years ago was evil!
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@vandana7 (68712)
• India
6 Mar
He has added to the fire by asking for arrest of the man initiating the peace process. LOL The guy is insane...I think by fasting so much their body's adrenalin regulation goes awry. lol Ok...seriously...demolishing places of worship and replacing them with new places of worship was common in olden days I think. Many Jain and Buddhist temples were demolished. How far back should we go for peace?
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@Daljinder (22196)
• India
6 Mar
@vandana7 Buddhist were all but pushed out of India. And if we started digging who knows what we might find beneath layers upon layers of history buried right where we stand.
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@Daljinder (22196)
• India
7 Mar
@vandana7 That is what I mean when I said digging where we stand. Obviously there is too much of history to hold grudge over something that has long past. Kingdoms and dynasties were conquering and plundering because that was what they were supposed to do. That was their "normal" in their time. Can't apply 21 st century rules to 16/ 17 century. It's silly.
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@TRBRocks420 (84687)
• Banks, Oregon
2 Mar
Prayers for the best in this situation.
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@vandana7 (68712)
• India
2 Mar
Thanks a million. That is what I was hoping for. :)
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@MALUSE (44803)
• Uzbekistan
2 Mar
I'm too far removed from this conflict to have an opinion on it.
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@vandana7 (68712)
• India
2 Mar
I understand. But if this conflict can be resolved, we can even set things right on Kashmir front perhaps.
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@Shiva49 (14297)
• Singapore
3 Mar
Unless the writ of 99% runs we are enslaved to the machinations of 1%. It is an irony that whoever we elect to power the boss remains the same - the greedy and the crooked. Few thrive in inciting violence and the rest get dragged in. The quote is relevant to get things under control "The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing". We should have leaders who unite us and look ahead but now we have the opposite. Then again we get the leaders we deserve. Once the vast majority asserts then good leaders will happen. Otherwise, we have evil setting the agenda. The vast majority is now divided by issues that are emotional. It is time they stopped being used as puppets. There is only one creator and let us just accept different paths while here - siva
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@vandana7 (68712)
• India
7 Mar
Profound thoughts Siva..and so correct...both in terms of having leaders and the leaders we deserve. Reminds me of Tagore's words...into that heaven of freedom my father let my country awake.
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@Shiva49 (14297)
• Singapore
7 Mar
@vandana7 Thanks Vanny, as per me there are two camps in our world. One is the vast majority made up of the trusting, accommodating. coexisting. The other minority is made up of the cunning, greedy, divisive. Now the second group is setting the agenda by fooling and dividing the good people. In fact, democracy should have meant the victory of the first camp but they are deceived time and time again. Our world could have been heaven but we are forced to live in hell by the 1%. True democracy and freedom is still not in our grasp - slip between the cup and the lip! siva
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@ptrikha_2 (10913)
• India
7 Mar
"We should have leaders who unite us" but that seems less and less likely now.
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@LadyDuck (183278)
• Switzerland
2 Mar
Same as @MALUSE, I do not know enough to express my opinion.
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@vandana7 (68712)
• India
7 Mar
I do understand. :) It happened that way to me too on Hitler issue. :)
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@mydanods (6747)
• Nigeria
8 Mar
@vandana7 Hitler issue is very horrible.
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@ptrikha_2 (10913)
• India
2 Mar
It is a sensitive issue, but I always feel that if we have the welfare of masses in mind rather than our own gains, issues like River water sharing like Cauvery and Sutlej(Punjab and Haryana), and Ram Mandir etc can be solved in a few days. Yet there are people, as you have mentioned who want to keep the issues alive and keep people ignorant and ready to kill and maim each other.
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• United Kingdom
2 Mar
The way the worlds going is not good. It’s all violence and blame which aren’t a great combo also deception. It’s full of hate because the majority wants personal gain from everything and they aren’t afraid to put people in danger small or large scale to do so.
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@vandana7 (68712)
• India
2 Mar
Personal gain is obvious conclusion. Because once the issue is resolved, he would not be able to corner votes based on any hatred issue he has used since the last 20 odd years. What would be the issues he would want to help his people with?
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@Daljinder (22196)
• India
6 Mar
LMAO! "Hindu monkeys!" You are lucky there is no Hindutva-vadi on this site. lol You are wrong by the way! That Ram Janmabhoomi legally belongs to the Sikhs. You see Sikh Gurus are the "descendants" of Luv and Kush (sons of Ram and Sita). So, "inheritance" of the SIkhs and all that. On a serious note, I really hope the court settle the case between Hindus and Muslims once and for all. Owaisi can take a hike. Seriously! He is too much of a hot-head.
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@vandana7 (68712)
• India
7 Mar
They climbed the walls.....like monkeys. If they can't respect the nation's legal system, how can they expect other community to do that?
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@Daljinder (22196)
• India
7 Mar
@vandana7 We don't really take the legal system seriously.Thanks to corruption! And there are too many loopholes to take advantage of which people do. ANd the pending cases? It isn't even deterring the criminals specifically rapists. When was the last time our legal system assessed?
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@vandana7 (68712)
• India
7 Mar
@Daljinder We only slash copied the system British had for us, modifying it slightly for minorities and scheduled castes and scheduled tribes. Nothing much since then. Each and every law needs to be reviewed.
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@mydanods (6747)
• Nigeria
7 Mar
The dates you are referencing shows this conflict has been going on for a very long time. That means the religious hatred has taken many lives.
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@ptrikha_2 (10913)
• India
10 Mar
@mydanods indeed it is a bit complex and a very old historical issue and one that also affects religious faiths of different communities. That is why the solution is so tough to come.
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