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@bagarad (14283)
Paso Robles, California
March 10, 2018 6:15pm CST
Last night Hubby came home and said someone approached him as he was leaving the Templeton house in the late afternoon and offered to give him a great price on paving our driveway. He said he had finished a job close by and had some left over materials. He didn't have enough for the whole driveway, but enough for the slope that is the biggest problem. He's from a city in Southern California. I told my husband not to do it. That's the approach scammers use. Hubby asked me to come back to Templeton with him to meet the guy, but I was too busy. Supposedly the guy was going to do the job right then. I think God was looking out for us. Hubby was back in a short time and said the guy said it was too late to do the job right that night -- it was already getting dark. Today we started discussing it again, since the guy was going to come back and do the job on Monday. I looked up the company, based in Texas and in San Gabriel, California, and most of the reviews were bad. Hubby called back and said we'd changed our mind because of the bad reviews. He gave my husband the address of the checkcba.org website. I did. They've only been a member there since last year and there were no reviews. It don't look good to me. I checked Home Advisor. This company wasn't listed. So called one of the numbers for a local company that was listed there. Evidently the person that answered was actually a Home Advisor employee, not the contractor I was trying to reach, but I didn't know that at first. I told him what had happened and he told me to tell the guy to get off our property and that we'd call the police if he came back. I thought that was good advice, but Hubby still wasn't sure the contractor who approached us was a scammer. I encouraged Hubby to call a friend who is a local building contractor for advice or at least a more accurate estimate of what a job like that should cost. How do you know if a deal is good if you don't know what others charge for a similar job? I found it interesting that the offer to my husband was made late on a Friday afternoon with a request for an immediate answer so there would be little time to check other places for estimates. We called one of our church elders who is a general contractor. He gave my husband the names of local people who do the same work and are reliable. He said if we did hire this guy, not to give him any money until the job was complete. Hubby has decided to tell the other paver not to come Monday and wait until he has more information before hiring someone. Was the first paver a scammer? I don't know. But I know he used an approach that scammers often use. First, they approach you and say they are doing work in your area and will give you a real bargain because of that. Then they want to start immediately, without giving you time to think about your decision or compare prices. We badly need to do something about the driveway. It's so rutted now I'm afraid to drive up that hill. It will be even worse when this rain stops, I think. But we weren't considering a paving job yet when this man approached my husband. It's possible that some neighbor had sent him after he completed a job for them, but he didn't say where the job nearby was. No matter how bad we need the driveway fixed, I don't want to throw away $4,000 to a scammer right before property taxes and income taxes are due. If this man had approached you, what might you have done? He was only going to pave the sloped part of the driveway where the ruts are really bad. Have you ever been scammed because of making a decisions too quickly? Have you known anyone else who has been?
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@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
11 Mar 18
In my honest opinion, I believe that guy was a scammer. Without a doubt. We have people here that walk around and look for people with some damage on their cars. They offer to repair it right on the spot. They are complete scammers. Tell your husband don't waste his time. Get someone you either know or is very reliable.
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@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
11 Mar 18
@bagarad Good. That is better. At least now you can get that work done with confidence form someone you know.
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@inertia4 (27961)
• United States
12 Mar 18
@bagarad Exactly. I know I need work in my place here. But I am waiting on my cousins friend. He is an awesome contractor. And I trust him.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
12 Mar 18
@inertia4 I hope so. And we won't have to rush into spending money we don't have yet.
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@shaggin (71666)
• United States
13 Mar 18
When my neighbor got his driveway paved years ago there was a little left over and they asked my parents the same thing as this man asked your husband and my parents did it. I think just don't pay them until the job is done. I assume since it would be a different day he will quote you higher then if you had done it that day he offered. Always good to ask around for quotes though to make sure you are getting the best deal!
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
13 Mar 18
My husband finally did get advice from friends here who are builders. One recommended another paver and my husband saw him today. He knew the other paver and told my husband what I had suspected. The way he approached my husband was his standard approach to new customers. He doesn't use enough layers in his paving and it falls apart much sooner than it should. So it at least bordered on being a scam. My husband is getting forgetful and I'm trying to teach him not to make instant decisions to get special prices when he didn't approach the other party first. If someone wants to rush you into making a decision on something you weren't even actively ready to do yet, there's probably a scam on the horizon.
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@shaggin (71666)
• United States
13 Mar 18
@bagarad that is wonderful that you were able to find out more information on this guy and did not have him do the job as if it fell apart in a few years it would be a waste of money!
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
14 Mar 18
@shaggin It probably would have fallen apart within a few weeks. That's what some of the people who reviewed them said. Unfortunately, the reputable company wants sixteen thousand to do the job -- four times as much. But we might have had to pay the other company to do the job four times, or just lose the money and pay someone else more for a better job.
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• China
12 Mar 18
$4,000 . It costs a small fortune ,you had better compare prices before you make decision.We usually get workers we know well to do such things.
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• China
14 Mar 18
@bagarad That is a right way to do thing! "Shop around to get a good buy" as we say here.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
15 Mar 18
@changjiangzhibin89 A good buy is not always cheaper than a cheap but shoddy job.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
13 Mar 18
Exactly. My husband got more information from people he trusts and did not let that first person do the paving. He also admitted I was right.
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@JudyEv (325759)
• Rockingham, Australia
11 Mar 18
There's a saying that if something is too good to be true, then it probably is. I'd be holding off on employing this guy too. It doesn't ring true to me.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
13 Mar 18
I and our friends in the building trades convinced my husband not to hire this person. When we are ready to do the job, we now know who we should get.
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@JudyEv (325759)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Mar 18
@bagarad That sounds like a very good outcome.
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@Deepizzaguy (94516)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
11 Mar 18
I have been scammed by some sweepstakes companies saying pay a fee to collect a prize that I "won" in a sweepstakes. I read that if I win a prize in any sweepstakes, I only have to pay the taxes on the cash prize after I receive the money.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
11 Mar 18
No Sweepstakes winner should ever be paying a fee to collect a prize. I'm sorry you were scammed. You will know better next time, but it's a tough way to learn.
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@Deepizzaguy (94516)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
18 Mar 18
@bagarad Lesson learned.
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@Hannihar (129470)
• Israel
27 Jul 18
@bagarad You are very wise to check him out. I hope I would ask lots of questions and check him out like you did.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
29 Jul 18
I'm afraid I've very skeptical about hiring anyone who just comes to my door or solicits business by phone.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
3 Aug 18
@Hannihar That's very wise.
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@Hannihar (129470)
• Israel
29 Jul 18
@bagarad I do not like phone calls that I do not know who they are or what they want so I ask questions and I will not give information to those I do not know over the phone.
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@GardenGerty (157551)
• United States
11 Mar 18
We have made some bad decisions, they were not necessarily scams but it was in areas we should have investigated more thoroughly as you have on this paving thing.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
11 Mar 18
I'll probably never know if we passed up a good deal or avoided a scam. I'm pretty sure, though, that we'd be better off saving a paving project until the rain has stopped and we have more funds on hand.
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@GardenGerty (157551)
• United States
11 Mar 18
@bagarad That makes sense to me. Any decision that must be made immediately is somewhat fishy in my opinion.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
11 Mar 18
I think you got lucky and this way if you have a problem with the work that is done by the local contractor, you have someone to go to for complaints.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
11 Mar 18
Exactly. The online reviews were by people who said when things went wrong the guy wouldn't make good on it. I showed my husband the reviews and he was still making excuses on why the guy might not have been at fault. I was surprised he would do that when he's usually more cautious.
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@JESSY3236 (18923)
• United States
13 Mar 18
Years ago I was naive about scammers so I probably would have said ok. But now I know more about scammers that I would have said no. I think he was a scammer.
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@bagarad (14283)
• Paso Robles, California
14 Mar 18
I think so, too. My husband doesn't do computers and doesn't see all the same warnings I do about various scams.
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