So Passive Euthanesia is in for terminally ill Indians...

@vandana7 (98823)
India
March 19, 2018 12:33am CST
Supreme Court of India (Apex court) has allowed terminally ill patient to seek Euthanesia. Doctor from Apollo Hospital (leading hospital out here) says even kith and kin should be allowed to terminate life of such a patient. Me says no! They would kill at the slightest pretext and the way things are in India, records can be fudged. But I do understand how painful it is for people with terminal cancer. I have heard the cries of a 35-40 year old man in the room adjacent to aunt. He had stomach cancer. His wife was crying all the time. And I do know that in the case of Aruna Shanbaug who was sodomized and raped, and left in vegetative state for over 30 odd years, Euthanesia seems merciful and cost effective. On personal level, I can discontinue additional cancer medical insurance as it was taken for this purpose only. What are your views on euthanesia for terminally ill vis a vis ...abortion of babies that cannot be afforded. If I kill me the sin is mine, I pay the price. If I kill a baby the sin is mine and still the baby also pays the price. One seems fine the other does not.
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@LadyDuck (458006)
• Switzerland
19 Mar 18
Euthanasia is allowed from many years in this country. You must sign a form that states that you will allow your family members to decide for you in the case you are in a vegetative state. If you can understand, you are the only one who can decide. I like this feature, I have signed. I do not want to be maintained artificially in life. I have seen how my mom was the last two weeks of her life. If she lived here, I would have asked for euthanasia.
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@LadyDuck (458006)
• Switzerland
19 Mar 18
@alberello75 Yes Alessandro, I think the same. Catholic church is too powerful in Italy.
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@LadyDuck (458006)
• Switzerland
19 Mar 18
@alberello75 I am not an atheist.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
19 Mar 18
I have the same document @LadyDuck . I refuse to be hooked up to machinery to continue a life that is not really there.
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• Preston, England
20 Mar 18
I am in favour of both euthenasia and a woman's right to choose an abortion if she so needs to
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
21 Mar 18
I do understand your views, and at times when people find it too much to bear the burden of their children it does feel why should we have allowed it.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
21 Mar 18
@arthurchappell But I really don't understand why people who know the implications do not take adequate precautions in the first place.
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• Preston, England
21 Mar 18
@vandana7 it is never an easy choice to make for any mother
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@Sreekala (34312)
• India
19 Mar 18
I wish to know one thing from you, I received a video clip in whatsapp, saying the cancer is a lie. It is the deficiency of a Vitamin B12. The video is concluding with the food which are sufficient with the particular vitamin. It is not clear how to cure the disease and they only blame medical people for giving costly chemo treatments just for a deficiency of vitamin..
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
19 Mar 18
Recently, all doctors are prescribing vitamins. I don't really know whether it is true or not. All I can say is, I know a few people with cancer who have lived beyond the term that doctors said they would.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
19 Mar 18
@CoralLevang Osteomyelitis may be triggered by deficiency of B12 and other bone related vitamins. I read something like that somewhere. If I can locate it, I will paste it here. But even that article said MAY BE TRIGGERED or something to that effect. It did not say that if you correct the situation the cancer would cease.
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@yugocean (9965)
• India
19 Mar 18
Actually it is very true; Cancer is nothing but deficiency of a Vitamin B12.
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@allknowing (130066)
• India
19 Mar 18
It is those life supports that prolong one's life - supports that only add misery to patients and care givers. One should be allowed to die peacefully and kept on pain killers when there is no hope.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 Mar 18
People do not realize that care givers do have it really tough. They are confined to the room of the patient for days and forced to put up with influx of visitors, answer patiently same thing over and over. They have to run about for bed pans, change of sheets, blankets, and many other things. They have to have expensive meals, as food at hospital is not cheap. They have to leave other responsibilities on hold and keep shuttling between hospital and home. It is not as if you leave a comatose person there, and continue with your job. Nope. Somebody has to be there 24/7 and possibly in shifts. This means there can be a job loss. Not only are there expenses for treatment, but also job loss. And the worst, it is mentally agonizing to watch loved one suffer. That said, I couldn't be the one to pull that plug. It is for the person whose life it is to decide. I wouldn't even be able to express any of those costs and cry in front of them, to make them feel guilty and quit.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
20 Mar 18
@allknowing I had written a response but net failed. Cost of living has compounded at the rate of 10.5 to 11 percent per annum in the last 25 odd years. In contrast, medical expenses have gone up by 20 percent compounded per annum. 20 years ago, 10 lakh cover seemed good enough for my lifetime. Today more than double that makes me worry whether it would be sufficient considering the exclusions and inflation. Nobody can provide for it! We can't blame our children.
@allknowing (130066)
• India
20 Mar 18
@vandana7 The number that are really cared for in such situations is dwindling for lack of money and/or nursing facilities leading to secondary complications. Bed ridden patients need to be lifted and cleaned so that there are no bed sores. Who will do that? All what I can say is those life supports are a curse to humanity.
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@magallon (19280)
• Philippines
19 Mar 18
I think, euthanesia should be in a case to case basis...
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
19 Mar 18
I would agree with you if it was possible to do that.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
21 Mar 18
@magallon How true. I am not ok with doing anything against nature. But if we consider hospitals and artificial way of prolonging life, then isn't that against the nature. Not an easy territory to take a call.
@magallon (19280)
• Philippines
21 Mar 18
@vandana7 but even if it is really needed, i think we will still be bothered by our conscience.
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@stapllotik (1933)
• India
19 Mar 18
Personally I feel this is against nature. What i see from it is nothing but vested interest.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
19 Mar 18
@stapllotik This guy was about 35-40, and he was sleeping in adjacent room to that of my aunt. My aunt was there for hip surgery. This guy on the other hand had stomach cancer. I heard his cries. His wife used to come out of the room and cry for some time. He was of course in final stages. But the cries were so heart wrenching.
• India
19 Mar 18
@vandana7 it is so painful and saddening.
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@marguicha (215389)
• Chile
11 Apr 18
I am for euthanasia if the person signs a paper allowing loved ones to decide. My mother decided to stop dialysis after years of suffering. She asked us for our permission although she did not need it legally. In my country, it is legal to decide not to accept certain medications and treatments. Our permission was a formality for her. She knew that we would say that she could do what she wanted with her life. For all of us, quality is more important than quantity. Each case is different.
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@yugocean (9965)
• India
19 Mar 18
I am in social work for disabled and needy; but this situation is out of hand. My last stop is CP and multiple disabled people.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
19 Mar 18
Oh I am so glad to know you. Just line Aadhaar, we should all have to state on becoming an adult that should there be a situation in which we are comatose for a period exceeding 1 year, or terminally ill then if we are not in our senses, our lives can be closed.
@silvermist (19702)
• India
19 Mar 18
I agree with euthanesia for the terminally ill.The decision should be taken by the patient,not a family member.Abortion is a different issue.But I am not against abortion.
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@jstory07 (134422)
• Roseburg, Oregon
19 Mar 18
No baby should be aborted. Anyone should have the choice on what to do if they are ill and there is no way they will get better.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
19 Mar 18
That is how I feel about it too. By aborting baby it is like I want to enjoy my life by taking yours. I mean, if it was a life of neighbor taken away to steal something, that would be punishable, but a baby's life does not matter? I am not ok with that. People need to be careful about conceiving.
@amadeo (111948)
• United States
19 Mar 18
I believe in it.If a person is suffering and no way it can be fixed.Pull the plug
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
19 Mar 18
But who is to pull the plug? That is the question. We all should, as adults declare that if we are in irreparable situation do it. Relatives should not get to decide it.
@amadeo (111948)
• United States
19 Mar 18
@vandana7 yes your right there.
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
19 Mar 18
It should be the patient's choice if cognizant @vandana7 ; if not, hopefully they would have left a legal document stating to have it done if there is no hope of recovering. I have done that (document). If it is a baby, God would accept the child regardless of how it was terminated.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
19 Mar 18
Here is what can happen. My relative does not want me to live. So he drives a vehicle on me. There I go into coma. What then? I am for me writing that I not be sustained artificially. But I am also for determining who is responsible for my plight in such cases, and then letting me remain comatose till all their wealths are exhausted. I am mean. LOL
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@nanette64 (20364)
• Fairfield, Texas
20 Mar 18
@vandana7 Oh lordy girl.
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@dya80dya (33510)
19 Mar 18
I agree with euthanesia if nothing can be done. And if the patient wants this. If not, I think it's wrong. The patient should decide what is best for him ( if he can).
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@deba12 (2951)
• India
19 Mar 18
I completely support Euthannesia. If I am ill for years and have lost my abilities to move my body and the pain is unbearable, I would like to get rid of such a life.
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@vandana7 (98823)
• India
19 Mar 18
Me too. :)