Trump's Un-American Activities

@josie_ (9763)
Philippines
July 17, 2018 12:55am CST
What ever happen to Trump's "America First" bravado? At their joint press briefing the world watch in stunned disbelief. Instead of projecting the image one would expect of a US sitting president of the most powerful country in the world, what we saw was a meek and spineless performance from a submissive lackey kowtowing to his master. People are speculating what happen in their close door one on one meeting. Did Putin have something on Trump that allowed the former KGB spymaster to pull the strings and make the US president dance to the tune of the puppeteer? "Disgraceful" and "shameful" were the general comments. But let us not dignify the "pee-pee" tape rumors. Although I'm not an American and have been told in more than one forum to mind your own business where US politics is concern, can I ask my American friends if what Trump did in the Helsinki meeting constitute an Un-American activity? Note: The House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) was form in 1938 to investigate alleged disloyalty and subversive activities of private citizens, public employees, and organization suspected of having communist ties. It gave rise to McCarthyism (accusing Americans of treason and subversive activities without proper evidentiary proof).It was abolish in 1975. Image:FolsomNatural flickr (creative commons)
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@boiboing (13153)
• Northampton, England
17 Jul 18
Well it wouldn't do to be rude to your boss would it? And if Putin says he didn't rig the election, who is Donald to disagree? It all stinks.
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@boiboing (13153)
• Northampton, England
17 Jul 18
@josie_ The Queen is a class act. She took it all in her stride and showed just how shabby Donald was in comparison.
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@josie_ (9763)
• Philippines
17 Jul 18
@boiboing _Her popularity and approval ratings is way above that of Trump. and that's not "fake news".
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@josie_ (9763)
• Philippines
17 Jul 18
Not as rude as his meeting with your Queen Elizabeth. Completely leaving the queen behind and walking ahead.
@LadyDuck (458012)
• Switzerland
17 Jul 18
I am also a non American and I think I should mind my business, but in my opinion, YES, what he did is Un-American. He is a puppet and surely Putin knows enough and has so many evidences to show to the world that he can do what he wants of Donny.
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@josie_ (9763)
• Philippines
17 Jul 18
Trump is a con man and Putin a thug. If there is any connection between them it would be tied to Russian organized crime. Putin is the leader of Russia's new oligarchy, they have dealings with the Russian mafia which allegedly uses the Trump organization for money laundering. I don't give much credit to the "pee-pee" tapes. It's more about "following the money" trail which the Mueller investigation is pursuing that is disconcerting to Trump. Although he may be dumb enough to get caught in a "honey trap".
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@LadyDuck (458012)
• Switzerland
17 Jul 18
@josie_ Putin is dangerous, the other is an idiot and if there is one who will get caught in the "honey trap" is surely not Putin.
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@josie_ (9763)
• Philippines
23 Jul 18
@LadyDuck _I fear Trump more than Putin. An "idiot" with his pudgy fingers on the nuclear button is insanely more dangerous.
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@vandana7 (98826)
• India
17 Jul 18
I do not follow America Russia interactions. So I am certainly out of depth here. That said, the reaction that came from Trump body language and the manner of speaking was quite unlike him walking before the Queen in UK just a few days before. Puppet like? Perhaps. Or perhaps the need to address the issues in a manner that China would not become both economic and military power at this stage so compromises. Certainly he did not seem to be happy with the outcome. But he had to compromise considering the present scenario. Let us just say, in politics, America cannot afford to go alone. In the past too, America has rubbed shoulders with the likes of Stalin and participated in Olympics hosted by Hitler, even when it knew what was happening in concentration camps. Politics is about that...compromise for time being. Bide your time. He is learning.
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@vandana7 (98826)
• India
17 Jul 18
@josie_ In Trump's shoes, no...India is gone case. I have enemy on west in Pakistan, I have enemy on east and North with China, I have enemy in south thanks to our interference with Sri Lanka. We can at the best become the battleground, not ally. LOL. Think about it, the US has a huge deficit with China ..and China and Pakistan are becoming buddies. While China has to spare less resources for Pakistan, the US would have to spare more for India both for fortifying its arms as well as giving for industries. Second thing is, the distance between India and the US...across the seas or lands increases the risk of exposure during wars. The US has tasted something of a defeat in Vietnam because of that, has it not? Even Afghanistan and Iraq do not qualify as victories. Pakistan will help China unconditionally as well, just to win over India, it is still smarting under defeats and loss of East Pakistan (today's Bangladesh). So if you could get Bangladesh its independence, we will give Kashmir its independence. Moreover, there is a sense of guilt too. The US gave monies and extracted their pound of flesh by taking the help of Pakistan for war against terrorism. In the process, Pakistan is now facing problems with Talibaan. Agreed that part of the problem was also because refuge was given to Talibaan people around the time, including Osama Bin Laden, but the fact remains that Pakistan is not out of the hell and is now in as bad a situation as many of the middle eastern nations where terrorism reigns. Such hell creates an understanding and belief among people that can go against the US. Touching India would be dangerous for the US since Pakistan would view it as betrayal of trust after it had let the US use its territory for bombing Afghanistan. Then terrorists from Pakistan would be targeting Americans. Bad deal. With Russia, it just has to ignore a few diplomats and overlook some truths. I think Trump's focus is on ensuring that there is money around for paying social security dues, medicare, medicaid, and monies for food stamps for another 20 odd years. The last thing he wants is war. If he touches India, confrontation is likely and that would be Pakistan and China versus India and the US. While Pakistan and China would find it easier to marshal their forces, the US has to come across the seas to do what it has to, and that means high risk of casualties. Defeat is what Trump does not want to take on his record. LOL.
@vandana7 (98826)
• India
17 Jul 18
@josie_ In Trump's shoes, no...India is gone case. I have enemy on west in Pakistan, I have enemy on east and North with China, I have enemy in south thanks to our interference with Sri Lanka. We can at the best become the battleground, not ally. LOL. Think about it, the US has a huge deficit with China ..and China and Pakistan are becoming buddies. While China has to spare less resources for Pakistan, the US would have to spare more for India both for fortifying its arms as well as giving for industries. Second thing is, the distance between India and the US...across the seas or lands increases the risk of exposure during wars. The US has tasted something of a defeat in Vietnam because of that, has it not? Even Afghanistan and Iraq do not qualify as victories. Pakistan will help China unconditionally as well, just to win over India, it is still smarting under defeats and loss of East Pakistan (today's Bangladesh). So if you could get Bangladesh its independence, we will give Kashmir its independence. Moreover, there is a sense of guilt too. The US gave monies and extracted their pound of flesh by taking the help of Pakistan for war against terrorism. In the process, Pakistan is now facing problems with Talibaan. Agreed that part of the problem was also because refuge was given to Talibaan people around the time, including Osama Bin Laden, but the fact remains that Pakistan is not out of the hell and is now in as bad a situation as many of the middle eastern nations where terrorism reigns. Such hell creates an understanding and belief among people that can go against the US. Touching India would be dangerous for the US since Pakistan would view it as betrayal of trust after it had let the US use its territory for bombing Afghanistan. Then terrorists from Pakistan would be targeting Americans. Bad deal. With Russia, it just has to ignore a few diplomats and overlook some truths. I think Trump's focus is on ensuring that there is money around for paying social security dues, medicare, medicaid, and monies for food stamps for another 20 odd years. The last thing he wants is war. If he touches India, confrontation is likely and that would be Pakistan and China versus India and the US. While Pakistan and China would find it easier to marshal their forces, the US has to come across the seas to do what it has to, and that means high risk of casualties. Defeat is what Trump does not want to take on his record. LOL.
@josie_ (9763)
• Philippines
17 Jul 18
A stronger US-India alliance to deter China's influence would be a better choice compare to any US alignment with Russia. While it may be true that international relationship is about making compromises, Let us not forget the saying "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." Unfortunately Trump has manage to alienate most of the US allies and when the time comes to play hardball with China, his slogan "America first" might become "America alone".
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• Philippines
26 Jul 18
The media just won't let it go, won't they? specially they have a President that is not favorable to them. Any issue they will just try to expand to the point that it never goes away.
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@josie_ (9763)
• Philippines
26 Jul 18
If Trump gets bad publicity he only has himself to blame. Not everything the media report about him is "fake news" as he so often complain about.
@GreatMartin (23677)
• Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
24 Jul 18
Trump wants to rule the world and Congress is letting him get away with a lot of rudeness and discord with our allies--hopefully the American people wake up soon! McCarthyism is one of the worst stains in American history.
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@josie_ (9763)
• Philippines
24 Jul 18
McCarthyism came about because of the communist bogeyman the US gov't was foisting on the American people. Of course the military-industrial complex benefited from the arms race. (Pres. Eisenhower warn about this). Decades later has anything really change?
@acelawrites (19273)
• Philippines
25 Jul 18
His actions could put doubts on observers' mind, even for us, un-Americans! And what about our own President?
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@josie_ (9763)
• Philippines
25 Jul 18
Actually I've stopped watching the local news so I'm more inform about the shenanigans of Trump compare to those of Duterte's.