Hatley some more
@GardenGerty (157546)
United States
August 5, 2018 2:44pm CST
Andria Perry is temporarily not able to be here, 
but I have her permission to share this from Robbie Hatley
She asked about Patsie and he responded.
Andria asked "how is your mom? ROBBIE SAID " I honestly don't know, and that's bugging me. My mom's current situation (still stuck in Seal Beach Rehab) leaves her cut off from me, as she doesn't have telephone or internet there, and her location is hard for me to get to (I don't have a car, and and it's awkward to get to by bus). I need to go by there some time in the next few days and drop off her purse, banking records, and other information. I'll let you all know more details in a few days."
" And for those reading this who don't know the full story, my mom got kicked out of the retirement center she'd been living in 2009-2017, because her hearing, eyesight, physical strength, balance, and ability to be "ambulatory" have all been declining in recent years. She started having more-frequent falls, with greater severity of injuries. The doctors, nurses, social workers, and administration of her retirement center all decided that her retirement center was no longer able to meet her needs, and that she needed 24-hour nursing care." 
Robbie goes on to say Seal Beach Rehab is more of a hospital than a residence. She doesn't have a room of her own, does NOT have any of her own clothing (just a hospital robe), does NOT have a phone or a computer or any furniture at all or any place to put possessions, just a hospital bed and maybe one tiny bedside table. So it's not an ideal situation. Until the Orange County Social Services can find a better place to put her, she's stuck there. I wish I could provide a home and hire 24hr nursing, but a nice 4bdrm house around here costs about 1 million dollars, and I only have about $100 in the bank, so I can't do that.
With all that is going on with my family of late, it makes me think hard about what I will do when I am older. I need to make plans now, I guess. 
What would happen to you in this same situation?
but I have her permission to share this from Robbie Hatley She asked about Patsie and he responded.
Andria asked "how is your mom? ROBBIE SAID " I honestly don't know, and that's bugging me. My mom's current situation (still stuck in Seal Beach Rehab) leaves her cut off from me, as she doesn't have telephone or internet there, and her location is hard for me to get to (I don't have a car, and and it's awkward to get to by bus). I need to go by there some time in the next few days and drop off her purse, banking records, and other information. I'll let you all know more details in a few days."
" And for those reading this who don't know the full story, my mom got kicked out of the retirement center she'd been living in 2009-2017, because her hearing, eyesight, physical strength, balance, and ability to be "ambulatory" have all been declining in recent years. She started having more-frequent falls, with greater severity of injuries. The doctors, nurses, social workers, and administration of her retirement center all decided that her retirement center was no longer able to meet her needs, and that she needed 24-hour nursing care."
Robbie goes on to say Seal Beach Rehab is more of a hospital than a residence. She doesn't have a room of her own, does NOT have any of her own clothing (just a hospital robe), does NOT have a phone or a computer or any furniture at all or any place to put possessions, just a hospital bed and maybe one tiny bedside table. So it's not an ideal situation. Until the Orange County Social Services can find a better place to put her, she's stuck there. I wish I could provide a home and hire 24hr nursing, but a nice 4bdrm house around here costs about 1 million dollars, and I only have about $100 in the bank, so I can't do that.
With all that is going on with my family of late, it makes me think hard about what I will do when I am older. I need to make plans now, I guess.
What would happen to you in this same situation?35 people like this
34 responses
@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
5 Aug 18
My daughter is a fighter and she would make sure I was placed in a nice home quickly!! All of my children drive and my eldest son is a nurse so he knows how to make sure I get taken care of as well. My middle son is no slouch either and he has three apartments so I might end up living in one of them. who knows. I fought for my mother so my kids already have the example.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
5 Aug 18
Your kids see how it is done and they have the tools to do it with. Robbie and Patsie lost everything about twelve, or maybe eleven years ago due to him losing his job.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
5 Aug 18
@GardenGerty That is really sad and he has not been able to find work?
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@ScribbledAdNauseum (104632)
• United States
5 Aug 18
Has a gofundme been mentioned to him again?
I would worry about her possessions as she's not in a private facility, and I do hope she is able to be moved to one. I hope he'll be able to see her in a few days and update us.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
5 Aug 18
She does not have any belongings with her. He is storing them in his apartment. I hope the state finds an appropriate placement for her.
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@rakski (112925)
• Philippines
5 Aug 18
@SribbledAdNauseum gofundme is a good idea.
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@ScribbledAdNauseum (104632)
• United States
5 Aug 18
@rakski Wish I could say it was mine, but someone else had brought it up.
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@1creekgirl (40497)
• United States
5 Aug 18
Geting older with so many health problems can be really hard. I'll be praying for Patsy. Thanks for the update.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
5 Aug 18
I try as much as I can. I hate reading this as it was not really what I imagined. My dad has a kindle in his hospital room but is not interested lately.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
6 Aug 18
@vandana7 No, not games. He reads books on it. He does not remember what he reads but he tells me they are good stories.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
5 Aug 18
I believe there is supposed to be social worker on staff. In Kansas there is and in Oklahoma as well. Now, I am not related to Patsie, and she would need to sign a release for people to talk to any of us about her situation. I can get the phone number of the facility and try perhaps, but I do not want to meddle in to things.
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@akalinus (40440)
• United States
7 Aug 18
@GardenGerty I just wondered. I hope her son does something to improve her situation.
@akalinus (40440)
• United States
7 Aug 18
@GardenGerty Actually, I was asking her son this. I forgot that he is not in the conversation.
@DianneN (246617)
• United States
6 Aug 18
This is just an awful situation. A rehab center is not the place for poor Patsie. I hope the state can find a better placement for her. I feel badly for her son, too. No car and only $100 to his name?
I know our sons would do whatever they could for us when the time comes.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
6 Aug 18
We are all hoping for her well being. I shared a bit about what I know about their situation in a response to @BelleStarr if you would like to read. I imagine you and your husband also have long term care insurance or other provisions.
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@popciclecold (35085)
• United States
6 Aug 18
So happy to hear about Hatley, but sad to hear about the situation. Thank you, so much.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
7 Aug 18
You are welcome. I think her son will respond to different ones of us at a time.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
7 Aug 18
I hope future placement is more accessible for him.
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@allknowing (130066)
• India
5 Aug 18
Strange that she does not even have a phone to connect with the world. Wonder why that is so
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
6 Aug 18
I am not sure on that. It may be that her funds are tied up and she cannot pay for one.
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@allknowing (130066)
• India
6 Aug 18
@GardenGerty Can we not raise some funds for her. I am willing.
@LovingMyBabies (85127)
• Valdosta, Georgia
6 Aug 18
This is heart breaking. I so wish I was closer and had the money so I could help her. =(
She must be so lonely. Is Andriaperry okay?
Is Andriaperry okay?2 people like this
@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
7 Aug 18
@Andriaperry is fine today. She is back, in fact since yesterday. I just had wanted her okay before sharing what she had found out.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
7 Aug 18
We are all hoping that things will improve, but it is taking a while.
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@Courtlynn (66921)
• United States
9 Aug 18
She definitely can't be happy with how things are now. :(
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
9 Aug 18
I am sure she is not. I know @andriaperry writes her and I think others do as well.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
5 Aug 18
She needs a "nursing home" or Long term care facility, or whatever they call them in California.Rehab is not designed for people to stay indefinitely.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
6 Aug 18
@NJChicaa I know, I was concerned her health needs were not sufficiently monitored at the retirement home. You are right, Medicare will be pushing for a different placement, or more likely Medicaid. Medicare limits stays in facilities. I think it used to be you could go to a rehab or LTC facility for 100 days after being hospitilized. I hope the placement that is found is easier for Robbie to access as they are basically almost all each other have in the way of family.
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@NJChicaa (115972)
• United States
5 Aug 18
@GardenGerty Well for now it is better than where she was. That's what I meant. Until a bed is available in a nursing home, she needs to stay there. She obviously can't go back to where she was and her son can't care for her. At least she has people caring for her needs. Social Services is involved so hopefully they are monitoring the situation. I'm sure the "rehab" is looking to boot her out ASAP as she is on Medicare, so they will be most likely trying to find a nursing home placement for her.
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@kobesbuddy (74514)
• East Tawas, Michigan
5 Aug 18
I'll end up in a nursing home, like Patsy Hatley did. This is sad but without lots a money, a person is at the mercy of the state they live in, to do the right thing.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
5 Aug 18
A nursing home, not a rehab, would be much better. I have worked in nursing homes. They can be very good for people. They have activities, etc. I know what they are like in Kansas, not so sure about California.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
6 Aug 18
@kobesbuddy Yes, they can be very good.
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@kobesbuddy (74514)
• East Tawas, Michigan
5 Aug 18
@GardenGerty My mother was placed in a nursing home and they treated her like a queen:)
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@koopharper (7477)
• Canada
5 Aug 18
This is sad news. She loved to spend time online with us every day. Hope that a better arrangement can be worked out for her.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
7 Aug 18
Yes, we are all hoping. How have you been? Someone asked me about you recently, now if I can only remember who it was.
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@koopharper (7477)
• Canada
8 Aug 18
@GardenGerty Been a crazy year so far. I'm looking to spend more time here so you'll get more news. Changed jobs twice in the spring. Right now I'm working as a temporary doing demolition. Getting more consistent hours than I have in a few years.
@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
7 Aug 18
No it is not good to wait. We have some family including my kids who would help.
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@LadyDuck (457918)
• Switzerland
8 Aug 18
@GardenGerty We are alone, I do not count at all on my brother, my husband has no one.
@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
7 Aug 18
They will either take copies of her records and lock them up in the office or they will take copies of them and give them back to him.
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@noni1959 (9886)
• United States
11 Aug 18
@GardenGerty I understand now. They do need her medical and other paperwork for sure.
@Hannihar (129388)
• Israel
6 Aug 18
@GardenGerty
I have heard things about her and what happened but not the whole story. I am so so sorry that she is stuck there and has not way out.
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@GardenGerty (157546)
• United States
7 Aug 18
She is one of the longest term members here, and is well loved.
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@Hannihar (129388)
• Israel
8 Aug 18
@GardenGerty
I really did not know her. I remember seeing things by her. I just hope that things will work out for her.
@spiderdust (14741)
• San Jose, California
6 Aug 18
We've been thinking about this a lot around here. My mother recently went to a nursing home because her Alzheimer's had progressed to the point where it was too dangerous for my dad to leave her alone long enough for him to get mail from the mailbox (she would put metal containers in the microwave and start fires, for example). It wasn't the nursing home they wanted, although it sounds slightly better than what Patsie has.... but only a little. They sedate her all the time to make her more manageable, which infuriates me. Because of this, she has lots of falls. I think she's had 4-5 this month alone, and I wish my dad would make them stop sedating her so much.
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@spiderdust (14741)
• San Jose, California
7 Aug 18
@GardenGerty I don't, and since my dad is in charge of her care, I'm not sure what to do. He says the doctor is reducing her sedatives to see if that improves the falling.
I think she's not always cooperative because she doesn't understand what's happening to her, so they give her sedatives.
@arunima25 (85265)
• Bangalore, India
6 Aug 18
It's a sad situation and can come to any. There is nothing that I can say with surity that will happen when we reach that situation. To be on safer side we save a little for our old age to be able to afford a decent life. My children see me and my husband looking after our parents as a part of their growing up years. So they might get an indirect message and should be able to take the family values that we live by. I keep my fingers crossed.
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@arunima25 (85265)
• Bangalore, India
8 Aug 18
@GardenGerty We pass on as examples through generations.
