Adultery a crime? You gotta be kidding me...
By vanny
@vandana7 (98677)
India
October 2, 2018 1:37am CST
My father is anti LGBTQ, anti new laws in India about adultery.
Sometimes, I think I support all such things because I am defiant and not because I believe in them.
A crime for me is something that results in
a. Death or serious harm to a person, group, family, property or society; and
b. It is something that cannot be corrected in full measure.
Both conditions have to be fulfilled.
Adultery does not fulfill the first condition. Therefore, it does not qualify as crime. As simple as that.
My father argues - it will break the fabric of the society. I say, this society needs to be shredded.
Man can opt for adultery victimizing unmarried girls, or create demand for prostitutes. That is ok...that does not affect the fabric of the society because it is the MAN who is doing it.
The way we go about marriages, in India, the arranged marriages, honor killings, and what not have you, it is difficult to know about mental compatibility upfront, forget about physical compatibility. Some people enjoy sex more than others. Such topics are taboo. Are they supposed to suffer for the rest of their lives?
One important benefit I see is all relevant cases will disappear from the list of cases in court improving the speed at which justice is dispensed in India.
The other benefit is of course emancipation of women to an extent. Many women wouldn't dare to speak to their neighbors or former friends after marriage, fearing that husbands and in laws would deduce wrong conclusions. That fear would go.
As to Mr. Owaisi (a political leader out here), declaring Triple Talaq law as attack on Muslim community is silly because Mr. Mishra, the retired Chief Justice of India, has also given a verdict on Sabarimala in favor of women. Time men in this country shed their stupidity and let human race move forward.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
2 Oct 18
How about the children who are products of an adulterous relationship? They were not given a choice but society would treat them unkindly and they are at a disadvantage when it comes to laws on inheritance. Just asking.
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@vandana7 (98677)
• India
2 Oct 18
No no...you are mistaken... the former law declared that if husband allowed it, woman could have adulterous relationship, effectively making her a subordinate. He could traffic her, and some men did. The criminality of it was only associated with the guy with whom she had illicit relationship. The basic part ..husband or his family can no longer decide with whom she has illicit relationship, nor lodge a criminal complaint in respect of it. It can at the best be used as a ground for divorce.
The provisions had made women very vulnerable. We have joint family system. We also have dowry system. So if in laws wanted more monies, they would threaten, go get monies or stay with your folks, we will spread such rumors about you. For some it was like walking on eggshells. Hope you understand. Unless dowry thing goes, this sort of thing should not be ok.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
2 Oct 18
@vandana7 I see, your laws is mixed with traditions that are inherent amd specific to your people, that's why I failed to comprehend.
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@vandana7 (98677)
• India
2 Oct 18
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigation Jump to search Section 497 of the Indian Penal Code was dealing with adultery. As per the Indian law, a woman cannot be punished for the offence of adultery. Only a man who has consensual sexual inte
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@vandana7 (98677)
• India
2 Oct 18
@LadyDuck Sigh...it is not my meter...it is how the laws existed..and how they have been misused.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to navigation Jump to search Section 497 of the Indian Penal Code was dealing with adultery. As per the Indian law, a woman cannot be punished for the offence of adultery. Only a man who has consensual sexual inte
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@LadyDuck (457169)
• Switzerland
2 Oct 18
@vandana7 You know, you cannot discuss this kind of matter using your meter, because India is so back in time compared to many other countries. I am a married woman and I am glad that adultery is considered a crime and married women with kids would only agree more.
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@vandana7 (98677)
• India
9 Oct 18
I do understand how values we place make it difficult for us to accept somethings. But strictly speaking the only remedy possible for adultery is divorce. With so many adulterous relationships, filling up prisons with people who were in adulterous relationship can only be a burden on tax payer, who needs to pay for their security as well as food and medicines. Does not make sense because it is a personal vendetta that government is being made part of. It is not the fault of the society or security system of the government as is the case with rapes and murders.
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@vandana7 (98677)
• India
4 Oct 18
The provision of previous section were rather awkward. The law said adultery was ok if husband allowed it. Which was weird and some husbands used it in perverted way. And only the guy who was having affair got treated as criminal. But as far as the girl was concerned, her name got spoiled so that even if she divorced, she would be troubled for the rest of her life by society. Even worse, even if she did not have affair, she could be troubled because in-laws could say she had one. It was all such old fashioned stuff.
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@vandana7 (98677)
• India
2 Oct 18
It hurts, I agree. But we need to be fair. We expect no physical relationship before marriage because our scriptures say so. We are never sure of what our needs would be and how they would differ. I am for live in and confirming compatibility physically and mentally before plunging into marriages wherein we have kids. Once kids are in picture, adjustment is mandatory and nobody has any business to leave the child without natural parents, unless the parent is physically or sexually abusive or bad influence on the child. It is for spouses to assess the natures before entering into matrimony.
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@vandana7 (98677)
• India
2 Oct 18
He bit the bullet. Previous time LGBTQ case .. they procrastinated for such a long time and came up with age old verdict. He has been swift in delivering justice and that is impressive. I think so far most of the judgements are ok... though Ayodhya thing ...when the matter was subjudice, people should not have taken matter in their hands, and every karyakarta, and whoever went there needs to be punished.
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@arunima25 (85238)
• Bangalore, India
2 Oct 18
I really welcome all these judgments in recent time in our country. Shows that though it might take some time but we are on a progressive path.
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@arunima25 (85238)
• Bangalore, India
2 Oct 18
@vandana7 Yes it needs to be taken care of.
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@Nickzter1331 (4229)
• Philippines
2 Oct 18
Adultery will always be a crime cause there are many effects of it. The meaning of crime is too vague. The things that yoive said is just one.of the classification of a crime.
