Gender bias in Indian jobs and training
By vanny
@vandana7 (98700)
India
October 31, 2018 1:21am CST
This is an inspired post...inspired by none other than our Pony TheHorse.
So this morning I got a call, the lady (actually a girl) greeted me, and asked in local language "Madam, is sir there, this is about tax benefits". I asked why can't we women be told about it. She said no madam, normally men take such decisions that is why I asked for him."
Does that tell you something about what is being perpetuated in next generation?
She is a call center executive, earning some monies herself, and yet she believes that only men take all decisions and women do not.
Secondly, if she is selling a product like tax saving instrument, she should know what could be the possible income range and therefore, be open to the idea that womenfolk in such households also become potential customers.
They graduate, they take up a job, whichever one is there since there are few jobs around, and do not know how to talk or what to talk. Madam I am from X Y Z company should be the first sentence. I can forgive that, but I cannot forgive her trying to force the rules of her home on me and other people who are unfortunate enough to lift the phone even as they have something on stove in their kitchens.
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@LadyDuck (457312)
• Switzerland
31 Oct 18
@moonandstars I know that some still do, so rude, is just like they said that a woman is not smart enough to understand.
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@DaddyEvil (137145)
• United States
3 Nov 18
Hmmm... DID you have something on the stove in your kitchen, vanny? I thought your cook might have something being made, but not you! 
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@vandana7 (98700)
• India
3 Nov 18
@DaddyEvil Groan...no...curds with yeast. After the damage pickles have done to my stomach lining, which has led to gastritis and sort of irritable bowels, I am to eat rice with curds at each meal, of course some vegetables too, but rice and curds are mandatory.
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@DaddyEvil (137145)
• United States
3 Nov 18
@vandana7 You are preparing to make cheese?
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@vandana7 (98700)
• India
31 Oct 18
@playertwo Proves that data list they have only has the numbers and part of the name.
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@cupkitties (7421)
• United States
31 Oct 18
lol I grew up being told that men are head of the house hold. But if that's the case why are they always afraid of their wives? 
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@vandana7 (98700)
• India
31 Oct 18
@cupkitties I would be fine if they were the sole bread winners, and earned sufficient sums, and were wise and kind and loving and caring and understanding and never straying. As things stand women also earn, and both can falter with other desirable qualities. So why that special status? I definitely like being fair. If a woman is earning she should have a right to take some decisions especially monetary decisions.
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@vandana7 (98700)
• India
31 Oct 18
Not really. I know many women who earn more than men. In general women are more careful with monies than men. I am not the one saying that... Banks statistics say so. That is why bankers are more open to lending to women entrepreneurs because they tend to repay loans promptly.
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@NormanDarlo (1071)
• Ireland
31 Oct 18
I remember a time when such a thing would have been common enough here, but not for many years now. I agree with the thrust of your remarks, but it may be unfair to blame the young lady at the other end of the phone; I feel sure she is merely doing what she is explicitly told to do. Her personal opinion might be closer to your own!
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@vandana7 (98700)
• India
31 Oct 18
I think she never thought about it and was doing her job mechanically. She must be young yes, as otherwise such thing might have struck her. Her voice was young enough. I did not yell at her don't worry. Just prompted her to think in that direction.
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@vandana7 (98700)
• India
31 Oct 18
@NormanDarlo Nah...I can be nasty but only when a person is deliberately being obtuse. And my fangs are real bad...the person is likely to suffer my words for the rest of his or her life. That is why I have to be extra cautious that my nastiness does not get better of me. When she asked for "sir", I asked her can I not do it - you can tell me. Then she said no decisions are normally made by sir... and then I asked her how do you know that, and laughed. After that because I had work in kitchen I told her, no sir is not around, and i am busy. In any event, I am done for it this year. Please excuse us. I was done. If it was an older woman I would have been more curt.
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@GardenGerty (157462)
• United States
31 Oct 18
I have a friend that was told that by credit card companies, and other financial people for years. Her husband worked very long hours on a ranch. She took care of taxes and everything else. When her husband heard about one such company, he called them on his lunch hour and gave them a royal chewing out. He said if they cannot talk to his wife he was definitely not interested in doing business with them.
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@cupkitties (7421)
• United States
31 Oct 18
I often see cashiers trying to give the men change that is owed to the women and every time it happens the guys like "oh no. That's hers". You'd think that they'd have gotten a clue by now. Women have been making their own money for ages now. It's like these folks are living in a perpetual state of denial
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@GardenGerty (157462)
• United States
31 Oct 18
@cupkitties it is the opposite here. Hubby and I used to make little personal wagers on who would be handed the change. Usually they tried to give it to me.
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@vandana7 (98700)
• India
31 Oct 18
@playertwo I don't think so. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely said somebody. So taking over is not going to be a good idea...it might becomes something like terminator type of thing. Equality is the name of the game.
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@Lignitecityabishek96 (7110)
• Cuddalore, India
31 Oct 18
Yes, I agree with your opinion and what she had done was wrong.
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@vandana7 (98700)
• India
31 Oct 18
@playertwo True...but in any event, I finished investing in tax saver so..
@Daelii (5619)
• United States
31 Oct 18
Oh wow. Its sadly a long standing thing ALL around the world in which is being trained to the next generation. Even in "modern times" with "modern cartoons", they still in ways, highlight a huge gender gap into what is suppose to be acceptable or norm for people to do based on their genders.
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@Daelii (5619)
• United States
31 Oct 18
@vandana7 That would annoy me! The other day I took my kids to one of the parks part of their school. Its open to the public in non- school hours with daylight.
Anyways, my oldest told me she couldn't do one of the things the monkey bars (its like a side ways ladder kids can use arm strength to cross from one side to the other).
I was like, have you tried it? it was one of my favorites as a kid!
She looked at me all wide eyed- surprised, "its a boys thing mom!"
She was soo shocked. I did inform her that ALL things on a playground are meant for both boys and girls and there is nothing special about a boy that lets them do that particular play piece. That girls CAN do it too it just might take some practice to build up strength!
They were also really amazed to see a girl on the big kids football team when they were at their cheer banquet. They had no idea a girl played on the team (and neither did I)!
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