Compulsory vaccination for children - yes or no

@JudyEv (325758)
Rockingham, Australia
December 18, 2018 6:17pm CST
The latest controversy in Australia involves the vaccination of young children against some very dangerous diseases including polio, whooping cough, diphtheria, measles and tetanus. Before the days of vaccination, parents lived in fear of their young children dying from these diseases The introduction of vaccinations was seen as a wonderful life-saving thing. However, little is remembered of the epidemics which often resulted in a row of small graves and sad headstones. A small percentage of today’s parents do not want their children vaccinated. Now, the Australian government, in an effort to encourage parents to have their children vaccinated, has now ruled that unless young children are vaccinated, they will be refused entry into preschool and child care facilities. In addition, welfare payments for unvaccinated children will be reduced. There is a backlash now and not just from parents. Child educators are saying the social and educational development of children will be curtailed by these measures. Do you have a strong opinion either way? Photo of small friends playing in a garden
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@rakski (112925)
• Philippines
19 Dec 18
I grew up and my kids grew up being vaccinated too. Except for the Dengue Vaccine which I am very thankful I did not have it for my kids as they are having problems now with that. I think most of those earlier diseases you mentioned, those are well studied by the doctors so I think it is safe. For new vaccines, that is riskier.
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@marguicha (215428)
• Chile
19 Dec 18
If a vaccine has to be checked more, we must wait. But polio and other vaccines that have decades are important.
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@Beatburn (4287)
• Philippines
22 Dec 18
We recently had problems with measles as many didn't get vaccinated as an after effect of the dengue issue. I think the dengue vaccine is not the problem. For sure pharmaceutical companies did multiple tests before putting it out in the market.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
Dengue fever seems to be a very serious disease too but I understand that some are reluctant to have these vaccinations.
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@LadyDuck (458091)
• Switzerland
19 Dec 18
The same controversy is going on in Europe, particularly Italy. I think that it's better to vaccinate kids, just to play safe.
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@LadyDuck (458091)
• Switzerland
20 Dec 18
@JudyEv In Italy some parents refused and their kids spread diseases last year, from this year it is mandatory.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Dec 18
@LadyDuck It isn't mandatory here but the regulations are certainly forcing people into having their children immunised.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Dec 18
I think it would be disastrous if vaccinations were stopped altogether (but that isn't going to happen) but the more people stop having their children immunised the higher the risk of a outbreak.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
19 Dec 18
I am very much in favor of vaccination, I even insisted that my children be vaccinated against smallpox which isn't generally done anymore.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
If there is ever an epidemic, there will be much wailing and gnashingAnd of teeth but it will be too late then. I think it was a good thing that you had your children vaccinated against smallpox.
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@BelleStarr (61047)
• United States
21 Dec 18
@JudyEv Even in those days 45 years ago I had to argue with the doctor to get it, they had already stopped compulsory smallpox vaccination but I didn't want to take any chances.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
21 Dec 18
@BelleStarr If we go overseas there are extra vaccinations we have to have depending on where we are travelling too. I don't think smallpox is one of them though. When I was at school I know all the migrant kids had small circles where they'd had their smallpox injections.
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@just4him (306234)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
19 Dec 18
The controversy is here too. I heard one lady with small children who came to my lady's brunch a couple weeks ago say she doesn't vaccinate and her child was refused daycare. She needs to find another daycare that will accept her child. Personally, I'm in favor of vaccination. I remember some of the outbreaks when I was a kid, and I was vaccinated against polio. I didn't get one of the vaccines, it wasn't available until later and my children got it for measles, mumps, and rubella. I had the measles as a kid but never had the mumps, though my siblings did.
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@just4him (306234)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
19 Dec 18
@JudyEv I don't know if we had them for whooping cough or diphtheria.
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@just4him (306234)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
20 Dec 18
@JudyEv It's a shame it's still around. I hope the musician was okay.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
Most of my generation had measles and mumps as the vaccination wasn't available then. But we did have shots for whooping cough, diphtheria, tetanus and polio.
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@nela13 (55698)
• Portugal
19 Dec 18
I vaccinated my children and I will keep giving them vaccines to prevent very serious diseases.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
I think that is very wise. I think some parents just don't like being told what to do but if they thought it through maybe they would change their minds.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
@nela13 That's true but the young ones don't realise such diseases are still potentially around and dangerous.
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@nela13 (55698)
• Portugal
19 Dec 18
@JudyEv It is is because of vaccines that some serious diseases don't exist anymore.
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@arunima25 (85305)
• Bangalore, India
19 Dec 18
I go for pro vaccination for all those dreaded diseases which are safe. But every day a new vaccination comes in market and I am not comfortable with all. My dad was a doctor and he did go for only a few vaccines in the list for me and my brother. Even I skipped a few on list for my daughters after consulting my doctor in my family.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
Sometimes a vaccine isn't really tested properly before being released to the public so I do understand your concern.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Dec 18
@arunima25 That's true too.
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@arunima25 (85305)
• Bangalore, India
19 Dec 18
@JudyEv And not all of them are for universal population.
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@youless (112113)
• Guangzhou, China
19 Dec 18
I think it is necessary to have some certain vaccination for children. As some disease can be deadly for them. A simple vaccination will protect children from these disease. Although there may be very little children who will have the side effects after that, but most cases are still helpful and useful. In this way, it is reasonable for the government to make the compulsory vaccination for children. Here it is the same. I always let my son have the compulsory vaccination. If it is not a necessary vaccination, I will just ignore it.
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@youless (112113)
• Guangzhou, China
19 Dec 18
@JudyEv Here it doesn't allow home-school and not let the children go to school. You can teach them at home in the spare time, but children must go to school.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
In a way I suppose it's not compulsory but they are stopping the children from attending child care and school. Parents can always home-school if they want to.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
@youless Home-schooling is allowed here but governed by some rules.
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@DianneN (246819)
• United States
19 Dec 18
I agree! If parents are worried about such things, they can have the vaccines spread out. Unvaccinated children are an enemy to the public.
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@DianneN (246819)
• United States
20 Dec 18
@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
I think so too. These diseases are now rare because much of the population has been vaccinated against them.
@ilocosboy (45157)
• Philippines
19 Dec 18
Though i'm in favor of some vaccines to be compulsory but there are few that shouldn't be force given. We also experienced the dengvaxia scare in my country-- a vaccine given to fight dengue.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
Someone else mentioned the dengue vaccination too. Has there been some bad outcomes with it?
@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
@ilocosboy That is very sad. That is what parents are worried about here mostly but an epidemic of say, polio, would be devastating too.
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@ilocosboy (45157)
• Philippines
19 Dec 18
Yes, some deaths to children are being pointed to the dengvaxia vaccine, though its still under investigation.
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@responsiveme (22926)
• India
19 Dec 18
The government has strong measures on vaccination here too but it's mostly voluntary for the people to go.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
While it isn't yet compulsory here, the government is doing all in its power to ensure parents have their children immunised.
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• India
19 Dec 18
@JudyEv same here,there are special drives
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19 Dec 18
We don't vaccinate. And we homeschool. Thanks for their mandatory vaccinations. We're doing just fine without their medical and economic (Centrelink) intervention. :-)
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Dec 18
That's your choice and I do hope your family stay safe and well.
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21 Dec 18
@JudyEv Yes, thank you. :-) We've chosen right for our family. The government uses our tax money we pay on Medicare and mandatory vaccinations. It's disappointing that our tax money does not return to us, through Centrelink. Thankfully, we've been well and healthy that we don't ever go to the doctors. :-)
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• Northampton, England
19 Dec 18
I think its only the Muslims that have an issue with that
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
It certainly isn't just the Muslims in Australia. Very few decisions here are religion-based.
• Northampton, England
19 Dec 18
@JudyEv Muslim clerics tell people not to be inoculated
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Dec 18
@thedevilinme I think it might be the same with Jehovah Witnesses.
@Courage7 (19633)
• United States
19 Dec 18
Maybe the photo is not there yet Judy..I will check again it does that sometimes. Well I wish I had not gotten my son vaccinated I had to as well here and it nearly killed the poor little soul. For him it was poison and some permanent side effects.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
I hope the photo is there now. I'm sorry to hear about your son. There is always the risk of something bad happening. I'm truly sorry.
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@Courage7 (19633)
• United States
19 Dec 18
@JudyEv Oh yes its there now. Thank you so much Judy. A lifetime of suffering happened and still with him..so sad.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
19 Dec 18
I am usually not at all interested in the government getting into any affairs concerning my body. But the stats are simply inarguable. Vaccinations work. And many fewer people suffer many debilitating illnesses (like polio) that were once very common. In many third world countries, even, tuberculosis is still a thing. In the United States it is so rare you are shocked to hear anyone suffers it, and personally I have never known a single person who has ever had it.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
What you say is true. Many of these diseases are now rare simply because most have been vaccinated against them.
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@porwest (78761)
• United States
23 Dec 18
@JudyEv Yup.
@sol_cee (38223)
• Philippines
19 Dec 18
100% in favor of vaccination.I remember when I enrolled my child at her preschool, they asked for her vaccination card.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
They are doing that here now too and turning children away if they don't have it.
@Poppylicious (11133)
19 Dec 18
Definitely a yes. One issue is with immigration. When I was a teenager most of us were vaccinated against TB. They don't do this anymore because the risk of getting TB became practically non-existent. However, increased immigration brings with it increased risk, and we now hear tales of people contracting it. My biggest argument in favour is children with low immune systems. They often can't be vaccinated because their bodies may not cope. Why should they have to worry that their friends at school are going to contract and pass on some disease which could kill them?
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
19 Dec 18
Certainly there are arguments against immunisation. And yes, TB might be almost non-existent but only because the majority of people have been immunised against it. And, as you say increased migration brings increased risks.
@Deepizzaguy (94528)
• Lake Charles, Louisiana
20 Dec 18
There is an old saying that goes "Government is the problem." Since I do not have any children, I can only suggest trust your heart to make the right decision.
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Dec 18
Our children were immunised and we will not be having any grand-children. Having said that, I would be having my children immunised.
• United States
19 Dec 18
I don't like the government forcing medications on a human but the consequences are dire if people are careless or afraid. I vaccinated mine because the risk of disease was greater than the risk of the vaccination.
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@Ronrybs (17849)
• London, England
19 Dec 18
While I don't really like the idea of forcing people to do things they don't want to, I feel vaccination is a worth while exception
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@redurnet (1799)
• United Kingdom
19 Dec 18
Why do people not want the vaccinations? I know there has been scare-mongering about certain vaccinations supposedly causing autism but aside from this is there any other reason?
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@JudyEv (325758)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Dec 18
It seems the autism thing has been found to be untrue. Occasionally a child reacts badly to immunisation but they are few and far between.
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