hospital bills do you have to pay we don't it's free

@rosebug23 (1909)
Australia
December 1, 2006 1:24am CST
I was reading a post and discovered that in America you have to pay if you go to the emergency department . Gosh we complain here about our hospital system but i never will again as hospital care here is free in the public system.if you go to a private hospital you have to pay but most don't have emergency dept. anyway.When i say it is free we pay a small percentage of our wage to a government run system and that covers you for hospital.If you have private medical cover then you give the hospital the details and the hospital arranges to have money sent to them. If you don't work you don't pay into the gov.health fund but still all your hospital cover is free. I am so pleased i live in Australia. we also have outpatients where if you go into hospital or to emergency and you need further care you go to the appropriate clinic at the hospital and this is also free. The other great thin we have is when we pay our electricity bill we pay around $22 and this covers you for ambulance regardless of how many times we use it.
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@gabs8513 (48803)
• United Kingdom
1 Dec 06
No we don't we pay National Insurance and I think it is awful that in America they have to pay for Hospital Treatment People must be frightend to having to go to a Hospital there I know I would be
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
1 Dec 06
England has a similar system as us ,my daughter lived there for for a few years ,we also have reciprocal health cover as we do with some other countries
@YoMomma1 (922)
• United States
1 Dec 06
yeah i think people may not be going for medical care routinely because they cant afford it. and even though they say medical collection on your credit report cannot be a factor in deciding you for credit, we all know that it happens sometimes. and our credit is everything!
@momto2 (472)
• United States
2 Dec 06
Yes, I refused to go to the hospital last week because I don't have health insurance and I'm 99% sure I was passing a kidney stone. That would have put us about $3500 in debt, no doubt!
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@Ravenladyj (22992)
• United States
1 Dec 06
I'll tell ya its a real kick in the teeth living in the U.S when it comes to health care...In Canada I didnt have to pay for hospital stays, doctors appointments or anything like that but here even wiht my husbands insurance plan we have to pay a portion..even for a simple check up at the doctors office...it blows my mind! I'm miss my OHIP
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
1 Dec 06
I think all governments should provide free medical care. It is hard to understand people getting themselves into financial problems because a family member is sick or worse still not going to a doctor because they cant afford it .Governments should be ashamed to let their people to suffer .
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@Ravenladyj (22992)
• United States
1 Dec 06
Oh I agree with you completely....it really is a sad state of affairs when the govs dont care enough about the ppl and allow that type of thing to happen...
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@patgalca (14057)
• Orangeville, Ontario
1 Dec 06
Yes, we get medical care free here in Canada. I don't know how people survive when they cannot afford to pay medical expenses. I have fibromyalgia and need constant medical attention. Although our government doesn't pay for medication, my husband's company insurance plan does pay 80%, as do most companies. They will even cover alternative therapies like massages, physio, chiro, etc., but only up to a certain dollar value. With fibromyalgia I am in constant need of massages but at 60 bucks a pop and $300/year ceiling, I don't get nearly enough attention that I need. I just hope that Canada keeps this medical system. There has been talk of privatizing it and that scares me.
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• India
1 Dec 06
In India, we have civil hopital in every possible city. They offer good medical care, it's not free but very cheap. No matter what disease you suffer from, you will be paid atleat 98% of the bill and sometimes 100% in critical condition. If somone take the charge of helping poor people in form of medical help, he is elligible to get exumption from tax. He is awarded with some wellknown awards. They are among the prestigious awards in India.
@777tash (125)
• Australia
1 Dec 06
I think that it is a good idea that they encourage people to help others in the form of medical care. Exemptions from tax are always a good way to get people to help:)
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
I think that is a good idea to et other people to help the poor and sick .Thank you
• Canada
1 Dec 06
So lucky, but here in India we have to pay for everything starting from appointment to doctor, investigations and medicines and if needed operation from our pocket. Though insurance is there but very few people know about it.
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
Thanks for your reply it is sad to hear so many people suffering because they cannot afford the medical expenses
@samsonskola (3357)
• United States
1 Dec 06
You are so very lucky! Medical care here in the US is outrageous and always has been...in fact, most credit agencies don't even bother to look at medical bills that haven't been paid, because, unless you're rich and have great medical benefits, EVERYONE has had a medical bill go to collections....I really wish the US would go to subsidized health care...
@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
Maybe if your government thought more about it's people instead of spending millions on war .I am sorry i dont mean to offend buy that is how i see it
@exotika6 (301)
• Romania
1 Dec 06
come to romania and u will see all about this..u must pay every dam surgery and if u don't have money u die
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
That is so very sad
@Sikh_Boy (231)
• United States
1 Dec 06
ok here's the deal.....what does america has ? it has has the techononlogy....and teconology costs something money and your life is saved ### high tech machines........here the services are amazing almost no waiting and everything is available on time so i recommend you move to america :)...and i doubt the austrila must be doing the same????
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
Australia has the same technology that you have and we have some of the worlds top specialists .We have some of the worlds best medical scientist and we are very proud of our many firsts in the medical field.We have sent our doctors over there to teach new technical as you have sent some here for the same reason We have some of the worlds top hospitals and our Children's Hospital in Melbourne is in the top 3 in the world for children. We pay more tax than Americans but i am happy to pay the extra to have the free hospital care and subsidized medicines
@akotalagato (1335)
• Philippines
1 Dec 06
You are so lucky! Here in the Philippines, it is very expensive to get confined in a hospital. Although there are health centers where you can get a check-up for free and some medicines are free too but the lines are so long and the medicines are limited. But for people with jobs, there is a social security system here that gives a discount on hospital bills but even with that, the cost of hospitalization is still so expensive. Thats why most people here, especially the lower-income class and middle-income class people, dont go to a doctor even if they are sick and they just result to self-medication.
@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
Iy is strange how the people who work get the discount it should be for the people who don't work as they can least afford it
@sherinek (3323)
• United States
1 Dec 06
Australia is a very comfortable country to live in. We have government hospitals where they treat patients free of charge. In private hospitals, charges are so high. But I really dont like to go to the free hospitals cos the service is very bad. You are treated very unkindly and like garbage. At least in a private hospital, you have to pay through your nose, but you can have a polite service. There are many instances where the patients die because of the negligence of the hospital staff.
@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
1 Dec 06
Private hospitals are expensive here as well and like Sri Lanka private health insurance will not always cover all your costs. We complain about our public hospitals but they are quite good .you will always find some that complain and we read in the paper about problems with staffing and mistakes but it is the same all over the world and as sad as it seems and as bad as it seems our doctors are only human and mistakes will be made. When you consider the amount of people they treat and the long hours they work it makes it a bit more understandable
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• United States
2 Dec 06
Yes in America we do have to pay for medical care. Then again we also have the finest doctors and hospitals in the world! Our medical training system is well structured and we turn out fine doctors and specialists. We have teaching hospitals, we care for our Veterns. Our system is far from perfect, but it is a work in progress. Our hospitals have research branches studying diseases and new medicines. Seeking if not cures, ways to make those who have disease live more comfortably. Yes, going to the hospital is scary, I imagine it is for anyone any place. Since being hospitalized for the most part means there is something wrong enough that it can't be taken care of at home. The bills may be high, but the care is excellent. It is a trade off we live with, for today.
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@getnbuy (1315)
• United States
2 Dec 06
Well said! I hope our country can figure out a better way, but there are many good things about our medical care.
@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
Here in Australia we have the same as you have we have teaching hospitals specialists of world class that have been to America to teach different procedures . Our research is the best in the world and many cures and findings have been discovered here in Aust. Just this week it was announced that the first vaccination for cervical cancer will be given to girls in school and this vaccine was discovered here in Aust.by the best friend of my niece.We have doctors from around the world come here to learn our treatments and to learn our advancements. We have one of the 3 top children's hospitals in the worlds and children come from all over the world for operations and treatment as we have the technology and expertise that a lot of countries don't have. Just a few months ago i was watching a news report from America where a neuro surgeon from Australia went to America to teach how to do a particular procedure He is the worlds top neuro surgeon . WE do have the very best and yes we have our faults but we have the very best and we can be proud of our medical prowess and it is all free
@ossie16d (11834)
• Australia
4 Dec 06
One other thing here is the treatment for veterans. All veterans over 70 as well as those who have a certain % disability receive treatment as through they are private patients. This is paid for by the Department of Veterans' Affairs and the veteran goes to a private hospital, private room if they choose etc. They used to have hospitals for Veterans only, but then found that the veteran would get better treatment in a private hospital, i.e. specialists didn't always practice at the veterans hospitals but they do in the private hospitals.
@caramello (4382)
• Australia
1 Dec 06
Hi rosebug, yes we are very lucky in our country in a lot of ways, but having been in the medical profession for 34 years and now retired, I would like to see the system change in some ways. One being that a minority of people do complain, but abuse the system. One thing I would like to see change is the long wait to be seen in the Emerg. dept. Oh and there are a few others, but will run out of space.
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
Yes we do have our problems but it is free and after reading all the responses on here i will quite happily keep our system faults and all
@caramello (4382)
• Australia
11 Dec 06
Our hospital system is in great need of a change if we want to have the quality of care that our country CAN afford, there is a lot of cases being held up in the system and this is not good enough. Maybe we are "better off" than some countries but you ask a majority of the medical profession and they will agree with what I have said!
@MrEricMc (157)
• United States
1 Dec 06
Well, I have to say that here in America it seems like we have it all backwards. When you have to pay ridiculous amounts of money out of your paycheck every week just to have the honor of having medical insurance coverage. And then even with your insurance, you still have co-pays and deductables when you do go to the doctor or hospital. And just a few years ago my insurance company said that I have a 2 million dollar cap on my insurance coverage so hopefully I never get a catastrophic illness or long term hospital stay. And in my opinion, the doctors here also add to the problem by making sure that whne you have insurance coverage, that you go through all kinds of tests, doctor visits (referals to their other doctor friends) and put you on a prescription medication for everything, just becasue they know that since you have insurance they will be sure to get payment form the insurance company!! Our "leaders" say that we cant possible switch over to government run insurance that would be free for all and that other systems around the world dont really work right, but those of us with just a little smarts know that it is just the large campaign contributions from the insurance industry that keep them from taking action. If this is the greatest country on earth like they all say when they are trying to get elected then they ought to give us the credit for finding a way to get health care issues fixed so everyone can be healthy!!
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• United States
1 Dec 06
Perhaps you should run in the next election. I'd vote for you. hahahah I also agree that we should have medical benifits free.
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
I am just staggered by the costs that everyone has to pay for medical and hospital treatment and then i read that a heart attack victim had to $5,000 just for the Ambulance .
• Brazil
1 Dec 06
In Brazil, there is the public system too, but you'll certainly wouldn't want to need it. So, we have to pay here too. Australia is surely a nice place.
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
we`are the land of milk and honey and i would have to say the luckiest country
@rusty2rusty (6742)
• Defiance, Ohio
1 Dec 06
I live in America. Hospital visits, doctors and ambulances are expensive. My last child I had cost over 9000 dollars to have. That was back in 2000. That is also with medical insurance. WE are paying 50 dollars a week not for medical insurance. But I still pay 70 bucks every time I go to my leg doctor. I also pay every time I go to my regular doctor 60. Than get a bill if it is mnore. Emergency room visits are crazy...Just for my son cutting his finger which required stitches and staples was almost 1000 dollars. It is crazy..needless to ay that bill has been paid yet. That was back in May.
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
The more i read on here thr more stunned i am i am speechless luck i need to type to reply as i could't speak, lol.My friends husband has just(Monday this week) been diagnosed with cancer of the bladder and he was in hospital for 1 week having tests .Next saturday he is giong into hospital to have his bladder removed and he will need a bag the rest of this life.the operation is expected to last between 4 to 12 hours dependin on what they find .then he has to be in the icu for however long and all of this is totally free .
@jediwa72 (204)
• United States
1 Dec 06
gees, wouldn't that be nice. yes, it is such a stinker...even right now i have a pile of hospital bills that are going unpaid. not to mention when they go unpaid they end up going on our credit reports.
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
I feel so sorry for all of you i cannot imagine having to pay the kind of prices that you all have to
• United States
1 Dec 06
Here in the U.S. we have to pay.. I once went to the emergency room because I was sick and if I didnt have insurance then it would have costed me $2,000. They baerly did anything for me! Where I live the hospitals are horrible.. You sit there for hours in pain and suffering.. It doesnt even matter if they are hardly any people there waiting to be seen. They take their precious time to see people!
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
That is bad don't they have triage.To make you wait that long then have the nerve to charge exorbitant priced is just rude
@lilaclady (28270)
• Australia
1 Dec 06
Yes we don't know how lucky we are, some will always complain but we are so lucky.
@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
We are very lucky and so unappreciative and that comes from us expecting everything like split kids the more we are given the more we want and expect
• Canada
1 Dec 06
See that's what I love about being Canadian, we have amazing health coverage.
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
Yes the same as Australia we are very lucky
@brians (679)
• India
1 Dec 06
well here in India now the systems is introduced...All the big insurance giants is now focusing on health care sector... You can say as same system in US... the insurance companies will pay our bills...or we can take membership of some hospitals where we have to pay only half the price and rest hospitals will pay...
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
Thank you for your paticipation in this discussion
@krizz420 (4389)
• Canada
1 Dec 06
I read the same post yesterday and could'nt believe it. I dont know what health care is like around the world but here in Canada I have never known anybody to be turned down or had to pay. Everything here is covered by OHIP. I believe we have 1 of the better health care systems in the world. Im not sure if you pay for ambulance rides here but I do know everyone seems to be treated as equal when it comes to health care.
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@rosebug23 (1909)
• Australia
2 Dec 06
No our Ambulance is free thanks to a gov.scheme were we pay a small amount on each electricity bill your systemis the same as ours and i do not know of one person who has not had medical care when needed.even people livin on the street can have medical care if needed . We are so very lucky like your country