My brother has a mixed daughter should the parents stay out of it?

this is Aniyah - This is my niece is she beautiful? I feel so sorry for her because she caught in the middle of a real live war.
@na2482 (423)
United States
December 18, 2006 1:24pm CST
I know now a days its more common for races to mix. I have no problem with it just that my little brother is 20 and has a baby with a white woman. I really like her alot. The problem is my niece lives with her mother in all white home, My brother doesn't get along with the family. So when its his weekend My nieces grandmother tries to find every excuse in the world so that my brother doesn't get to see his child. My brother and my nieces mother are great parents. What should my little brother do, as a parent would you get involoved?
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
18 Dec 06
If I were your brother, I would go down to family services and get a free or cheap lawyer and take the mother to court for visitation. That way the grandmother cannot keep him from seeing his child. I can't believe they don't want him involved - regardless of his race. There are so many "fathers" who don't want to be involved. I think they should welcome him with open arms since he wants to be there for his child.
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@na2482 (423)
• United States
18 Dec 06
well, i totally agree to your responses. thank you very much. He went to court for visitation he is suppose to get her every monday and wednesday and every other weekend. April(my nieces mother)still has to fight with her family about that, and this is the courts ruling.
@MellieC (783)
• United States
19 Dec 06
This was going to be my advice too. If the mother and father both agree that there should be visitation then the Grandmother has no say in it. Its not her place to deny the father time with his child.
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
20 Dec 06
If the Grandmother still disallows him seeing the child, he can bring the police with him when he goes to pick her up. They will enforce the court ruling. He can also take her back to court and plea to the judge and the judge can irder the grandmother to not interfere or she will go to jail.
• United States
18 Dec 06
The grandmother needs to stay out of it. She has no right to keep the baby from your brother. He needs to go to court and fight for his visitation rights. Your niece's mother needs to stand up to her own mother.
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@vipul20044 (5794)
• India
19 Dec 06
Why should all suffer just cuz of the mother's family i mean there has to be some reason they arent togather Yes prolly they should seek the law i mean the man has every right to see his child!
@na2482 (423)
• United States
20 Dec 06
April(my nieces mother) and my brother aren't together anymore because of the mother, she didn't approve before my miece was born. Its all because my brother is of a different race.
@Ravenladyj (22904)
• United States
19 Dec 06
So its been established that your brother has already gone to court for this and has legal visitation....so i wont go there....I think its time for the mum (April I think you said her name was) to step up and tell granny to butt the hell out! Granny doesnt have to see your brother, he's not there to entertain her he's there to be a daddy to his baby girl so granny needs to p!ss off and its Aprils job to tell her so!! if that doesnt work your brother AND April need to go to court together and get some kind of order against the granny....April NEEDS TO side with your brother and help him out with this...He's a young guy who is stepping up and beign a man, she needs to back him 100%
@Ravenladyj (22904)
• United States
20 Dec 06
Well I'm sorry but even though this situation is tough for her, and I realize being on your own is scary and a scary thought if its possible that it could happen before you are ready but bottomline IMO is this...here is a guy who is TRYING to do right, step up be a responsbile man and father, he WANTS to be a daddy and be in his childs life etc...I think that April is taking a bigger and more damaging risk by NOT helping him and siding with him then she is by doing it....ok so she may get kicked out...yes thats rough but not completely undoable and secondly can you imagine the pain that child will go through later on when she finds out (and she will someday) that mommy didnt help daddy fight off gramma and thats why her relationship with her daddy is strained.....C'mon! Sometimes you gotta take a chance and if it means growing up a little quicker than intended and if it means doing whatever it takes for the best intrest of your child, then you do it! I mean I'd also be concerned about whta the granny is saying in front of the little one too..cause once granny gets away with it for the first few months and yrs of babys life, it'll never stop....I feel really bad for your brother! thats crap in the biggest way!
@na2482 (423)
• United States
19 Dec 06
I agree with you 100%, April is afraid of being through out of the home and disowned if she sides with my brother. Its a really sad situation.
@lucy02 (5016)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Your brother should take her to court for visitation. If the mom is not speaking up why not? The grandmother should stay out of it.
@lucy02 (5016)
• United States
19 Dec 06
By the way your niece is as cute as a button.
@na2482 (423)
• United States
20 Dec 06
thank u!!
@na2482 (423)
• United States
18 Dec 06
the mother i think is a little afraid to say something. The grand mother runs the whole family including the husband. He already went for visitation.
@kshambl (108)
• United States
19 Dec 06
First, I am not sure that race has anything to do with this situation...it seems that the grandmother simply does not like your brother. If it is because of race, then you would think that she would not want the granddaughter around either. But to answer your question, I think your brother should discuss this matter with the mother of his child first. Does the mother agree that the grandmother is interfering with his ability to be a father to his daughter? If so, she should step up and tell her mother to knock it off. If that does not work, I would advise your brother to get legal visitation guidleines put in place that if the grandmother violates can be taken to court.
@kshambl (108)
• United States
19 Dec 06
That is unfortunate. I think your brother should get a court ordered visitiation schedule put in place if the mother cannot stand up to her mother and tell her she is wrong for what she is doing.
@na2482 (423)
• United States
19 Dec 06
well, I'm sorry to say but this has everything to do with race, the grandmother never liked my brother before my niece was born, after my niece was born the situation has gotten 10x worst and its all because the color of his skin, its sad to say but its true. Plus the fact that shes crazy. My little brother went for visitation and is suppose to be able to see his daughter on mondays and wednesdays of every week and every other weekend, the grandmother interferes in that as well. Thank you for your respond.
@sanell (2112)
• United States
19 Dec 06
I would ask that the grandmother allow her granddaughter her right to know her father. if he is paying child support then she is overstepping her boundaries. does he get along with the baby mommy?
@na2482 (423)
• United States
19 Dec 06
They use to get along, but things between them have gotten alot worst because of the grandmother interfering always. He pays childsupport and does else he is suppose to.
@lvhughes (545)
• United States
19 Dec 06
this problem doesnt only occure with mix race children. your brother can have it fixed so that the childs grandmother is not allowed to see the child(i do not condown this but if nessary) it could be fixed like that for a short time so that the grandmother may (if your lucky) start to get the picture. living in seperate houses is bad enough, having a family member making trouble can harm the child mentally. Black white green or purple no child should be keep from a loving parent.
@na2482 (423)
• United States
19 Dec 06
thank you i'm going to look into that suggestion
@exchange (947)
• Australia
19 Dec 06
you say 'mixed baby' with a white woman yet you dont say what the baby is mixed with black brown red yeloow should i go on?
@Ravenladyj (22904)
• United States
19 Dec 06
What difference does that make? fact is the little one is mixed race and there are racial issues causing problems.
@cbdreher (11)
• United States
19 Dec 06
I was in a simular situation as your brother, except for fact that I got along quite well with the maternal grandparents, and I did marry my daughters mother a few months before my daughter was born. After we divorced my ex asked me for permission to move from NJ to CO, I said yes, knowing that mere miles would not keep me out of my daughter's life and if I said no it would be the beginning of a unpleasent relationship with my daughter in the middle. I think that my ex thought that the miles would be enough for me to fade out of my daughter's life, because once when retuning my daughter to her mother (who was living in Oregon at that point)after having her for a few weeks one summer, my daughter who was about 4yo at the time, started to cry and said "Anyway I'll probably never see you again". She is now 32yo and as I always have, I see her and now my grandson for about a week every two months. My ex and my current wife are good friends, we even stay with my ex and her family sometimes when we travel to "Georgia" to see my daughter. I love my daughter so much that I has always been important to me that she grow up without ever having any doubt about it. To your brother I say that, let nothing get in the way of being the best father he can be. The sooner he makes that abundantly clear to anyone who tries to interfere with his relationship with his daughter, the sooner he can get down to the business of giving his daughter as much of himself as he can.
@na2482 (423)
• United States
19 Dec 06
I'm glad it worked out for you, My brother is determined not to have to stop seeing his child. The family just is really giving him a hard time. Thank or your response.
@sha140 (50)
• Pakistan
19 Dec 06
I'd say beat the crap out of granny.. hehe :D
@na2482 (423)
• United States
20 Dec 06
lol, I would love to trust me, But thats only going to make things alot worst for my brother and may land me in jail, thanks for your response
• United States
19 Dec 06
I would do the same thing as I would do rather the child is of a mixed race or not. I don't see how that is part of the equation, unless you're only mentioning it as the reason the child's maternal grandmother won't allow your brother to see your niece. Which is a shame on her part. But, what would I do? I would just continue to be the best father that I could and insist on my visitation. I know your brother is young, but is he able to help with the baby financially? If not, then that may cause some friction with the grandmother. If it gets out of hand, he may have to file a complaint that his visitation is not being honored. Does the Mother have full custody with your brother having only visitation? The judges around here almost always want joint custody with the Mother having primary "physical" custody, unless the parents agree on something else. How about the rest of your family? Do you all get to see the child? Just things to consider....
@na2482 (423)
• United States
19 Dec 06
well, thats the whole problem, my brother is the wrong color and the grandmother can't get over it. The both have joint but the grandmother doesn't seem to care about that. The rest of the our family only gets to see her when my brother does. They want my niece to have nothing to do with us because of the color our skin.
• India
19 Dec 06
Somehow I feel that its not such I good idea to involve court, cops and lawyers in this situation.If the parents agree that your brother has equal rights to be with his child then they should be able to work it out...Like the mom and the kid can go out shopping together and your brother can meet up with them at the mall or the park or any other convenient place.. Lets not forget that the grandmothers influence on the kid regarding the colour of the skin can hamper the kids progree..She may grow up in the paradox that white is might and that her dad is not white...The kid should be the primary concern for everybody involved..
@na2482 (423)
• United States
19 Dec 06
well,the grandmother already tries to teach her that shes white not black, when infact thats not true,my niece is 2 yrs old now.
• France
19 Dec 06
I think the real problem is the relation between your nieces mother and the grandmother!!! it should be discussed between them. By the way, I don't think that it would be a problem of races, it can happen in any family...
@na2482 (423)
• United States
20 Dec 06
No the whole problem is because my brother is black she didn't like him when they were dating.
@baileym11 (887)
• United States
19 Dec 06
That is absolutely pathetic. If the family can't stay out of it, your brother should do something. Mixed race makes no difference anymore. A daughter is a daughter.
@na2482 (423)
• United States
20 Dec 06
i agree, but unfortunaley the race issue is still amoung us
@ozangel82 (753)
• Australia
19 Dec 06
I absolutely hate it when i hear stories such as this, as it is always the child that is affected the most. I think it is up to the niece to speak to her family and tell them how it should and will be from now on, if I were you I wouldn't say anything to her mother, but instead talk to her about it so that she can decide what she wants to do, as you don't want to make it worse and have her family hate you too. Good Luck
@na2482 (423)
• United States
19 Dec 06
thank you.
@kakuemmom (859)
• Canada
18 Dec 06
The grandmother needs to know her place. Your brother has rights to HIS child and should see her without it being a hassel. What is that grandmother teaching this child. He should really see a lawyer to see what can be done. Most lawyer give you the first consultaion free that way he can at least know what he is dealing with. I wish your brother all the luck in the world in seeing his daughter. Oh and btw she is sooooooooooooo adorable.
@na2482 (423)
• United States
19 Dec 06
aniyah - shes such an angel she doesn't deserve to be going through this she only 2 years old.
thank you very much Aniyah is an angel and i really feel bad because shes caught in the middle of this mess. My brother is trying to deal with this the best way he can, but its really hard on him. I am going to diffently let him know these suggestions though, maybe something can be done. Thank alot for your response.
@imadriscoll (2228)
• United States
19 Dec 06
I'm not sure that I understand the whole situation. Is your brother still with the mother of the child? If they're together why aren't they making plans to get married so that the mother can leave the grandmother's home. I think that all need to consider the child's best interest, which would be to spend time with both of her parents.
@na2482 (423)
• United States
19 Dec 06
no there not together anymore, the mother and father get along great! its her parents that are interfering.
@profclark (512)
• United States
19 Dec 06
I agree that your brother needs to take up custody issues with family services, and probably will have to go to court. Unfortunately, this will take time, but he needs to document every conversation and obstruction that he encounters, and stay current on his child support, and pay by check or money order; something he will have proof of. And yes, as a parent, I would advise him and help him find a decent lawyer. Unfortunately, the laws in this country do not favor men.
@na2482 (423)
• United States
20 Dec 06
thank u
@00fear (3216)
• United States
19 Dec 06
well i think so because...its her daughter, he still loves her and all doesnt he? he has no problems with your sister in law/his girlfriend right? they still love each other. i say they should get a place on there own, so your brother can see his daughter everyday, without having to worry about his wife/girlfriend's family.
@na2482 (423)
• United States
19 Dec 06
thanks