Islam vs Christianity

@john1984 (309)
India
December 18, 2006 10:58pm CST
Is my understanding correct? I understand that Muslims do believe in the books of the old testament + the 1st 5 books of the new testament. I understand, also, that Muslims do not believe Jesus is the actual Son of God. If I am not correct with my understanding of Islam belief, please do correct me. If my understanding is correct, please help me understand how can a Muslim say that Jesus is not the Son of God when, for example, in Matthew 3:17 it says: And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased." This was said by God after Jesus was baptized. This is only 1 example of many that states direcly in our bible that Jesus is Son of God. Please help me understand what is understood in Islam, and why. I really need to understand.
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@nul678 (25)
• Philippines
19 Dec 06
hi there! i am a muslim..what i understand about jesus is that He is a Prophet to us..one of the messenger of GOD..if you heard people saying i don't believed in Jesus,pls ask them why for you to know is their idea of Jesus..it's in our QUR"AN..stated that Jesus is a Prophet..so we do respect! those people are saying and who don't believed,perhaps,they have less information about ISLAM..peace be with you always..
@binbin (133)
• Indonesia
19 Dec 06
Yes You're right, Isa Al Masih "the Mesiah" is a prophet in moslem known
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• Canada
19 Dec 06
yeah i am muslim, there is whole chapter in Quran on Maryum ( mother Mary) that is Surah maryum and also Al-e-Imran (family of Imran) in which there were all explaination about forefather's of Maryum and Christ.you know i gave my daughters name on it. if we dont believe in Christ then how can we name on them.. by the way my husabnd name is Imran...who're the father of Mother Mary.
@cnetboss (2475)
• Philippines
20 Dec 06
Actually this question shouldn't be asked because even though Islam or Christianity or Buddhism or any other religion or vocation are distinct in their beliefs it should not be the cause of conflicts. The Main WORD that we should always put in our minds is RESPECT. I'm a Catholic but I have the utmost respect on other people's religions/vocations.
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@humaaaa (1386)
• Pakistan
20 Dec 06
i appriciate your respect towards religions.
@urzicutza (1971)
• Romania
19 Dec 06
well the old testament is the book of jues people not muslims!!!this is what o know!i dont know in what muslims are beliving i only know that they have alah and they are not christians
@urzicutza (1971)
• Romania
19 Dec 06
well if you ask me!!!there is not such a thiink like ald and new testament!i don't believe in it because both of them was written by the people !and the Koran to!!! i believe in god i believe the is there someone who is watching me!!and loves me!! my faith is in my soul!!! every body need to believe in something because this is our meaning in the world! we can not survive without faith...and doesent mater in what you believe!!!you need something that guides you!!!
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
19 Dec 06
i agree, if there is a god at all, he or she is within you not some superstition or entity controling you or judging you, god is your being
@john1984 (309)
• India
19 Dec 06
Thank you for your great response .
• United States
20 Dec 06
Sounds to me the quaran is one big book of Lies written by satan himself...since he is a great deciever just look at how many followers he has now.. Yes the devil would like nothing more than to say that Jesus was not Crucified saving all mankind from their sin and ripping the keys of hell from him. The devil would like you to believe that Jesus is not the son of God....ofcoarse the devil was soo blind to what was going on that he didnt even know that Jesus Is God in all fullness as it is written. The Devil would like everyone to read a book of Lies to profess and worship any man besides God .. it is writen every tongue shall confess he is Lord. Lucifer would like you to believe that Jesus did not die and then raise again and ascend into glory and he would like you to think Jesus did not return as the Holy Spirit infilling all who believe in Jesus. And Jesus will return and meet us in the air as it is writen. God is true and His words are true. the quaran is a book of lies written by liars and theives of lost poor souls who need Jesus and not the devils book of deceptions. it is writen if any man add to the book that is writen they shall be cursed with the plagues of the earth. it is written let no man preach any other gospel than which has been preached by christ and the apostles. let them be acursed even if it is an angel of heaven. IT IS WRITEN!
@humaaaa (1386)
• Pakistan
20 Dec 06
You guys should feel shame on your knowledge, how can you say such things about any religion if you don't respect others you have no rights to be respected. In the whole world if you make a proper survey Muslims are the only ones who are most intelligent people around and yeah please try not to say such things about any Religion in future its a very big sin that you are doing. thanks
@cnetboss (2475)
• Philippines
20 Dec 06
911 - 911
In my opinion, Terrorists are not muslims but satanists. On the 911 attacks here is a clear evidence that Bin Laden and other terrorist are satanists from the picture attached. Islam is just being used by satanist so that they would make us believe that Islam is the enemy but not.
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• United States
20 Dec 06
sorry im not ashamed of my beliefs and where I stand on Truth ..it is written buy the truth and sell it not.. it is also written rebuke them that teach another gospel other than the apostles preached that they be in truth. I wont sway or wander from the truth of Jesus nor indulge a lie.
@gumilir (52)
• Indonesia
19 Dec 06
as i kow in ALQURAN muslim (bible) said yes true never know jesus BUT they call him "ISA" and in ALQURAN said ISA first GOD will coming again in this earth to JUDGE everyone.if i not wrong,but they know ISA=JESUS.
• Canada
19 Dec 06
Binbin, the language of this forum is English. If you post in another language you are preventing a lot of people from all over the world to understand what you are saying.
@binbin (133)
• Indonesia
19 Dec 06
Isa=Jesus, konsep trinitas dalam kristen sangat rancu,... Setahu saya ada pertentangan pemahaman dalam internal kaum kristiani, ada perbedaan pemahaman antara kristen katolik dan kristen protestan,...di mana yang satu menganggap Yesus sebagai Tuhan dan Yesus sebagai nabi
• India
20 Dec 06
i have no idea about it as i am neither a christian nor a muslim ..lol
@baboni (198)
• China
19 Dec 06
islam is authentic religoin in this world,muslims beleives in jesus but jesus was not HIS son, as in older times, son stands for the slaves.it is also mention is bible:jesus said: God is my father and the father of jews is devil. if son means real son then it should also be beleived that devil is father of jews,but certainly it is notlike that.son doesnt mean the actualy son,he was a slave of Allah.if u still confused.let me know
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@humaaaa (1386)
• Pakistan
20 Dec 06
Quran-e-paak is only book today which is in its pure and real form, all other books have got changes according to the scholars of the religions that they belong to. I know you can't get it today but if you take the real bible than you'll find it different from the one today.
@Naseem00 (1996)
• Pakistan
25 Dec 06
Ok,.. lets assume you are correct and it is notpure andoriginal. Can you mars any changes in its text since Caliph Othman has compiled it till date? Can you come up with another book that has been in same state for 1400+ years? Can you find out any difference (in text) among printed versions from different parts of the world of the Holy Qur'an? Can you name JUST one book (similar size: religios, scientific, academic or whatever) that is memorized by anybody word by word, phrase by phrase? and finally, Can you or anybody else, come up with a few verses like those written in the Holy Quran?
• India
20 Dec 06
nothing is pure is real....The Qur'anic verses were originally MEMORISED by Muhammad's companions as Muhammad spoke them, with SOME being written down BY ONE OR MORE companions on WHATEVER was at hand, from STONES to PIECES OF BARK. COMPILATIONS of the Qur'an began under the Caliph Umar, but it was UTHMAN who DECIDED upon a definitive copy and DESTROYED all other copies... you see what muhammad sahib originally said was never noted down properly..it was memorised and it is better that we say nothing about human memory....moreover some only some of these were written down that too not by only one person but many and muhammad sahib himself never wrote anything what he said..so we never know that the writer did not include anything from his side or whether or not he choose not to write something said...noone knows....lastly it was uthman not muhammad who decided upon a definitive compilation of all these things and he destroyed anything else which he BELIEVED is not quran.....so instead of saying that it is PURE AND REAL say that you believe that it is pure and real since this is what you have been told since childhood and you have taken it to be the truth and you do not question this ......
@humaaaa (1386)
• Pakistan
19 Dec 06
hello sister. Here i'll let you know some of the facts that christains are still not aware of and InshaAllah i'll try my best to clear out your problem, and one thing i should mention is i will use Allah as God. Allah is and arabic word which means God. I am not a very big reader of Islam or even i don't care as many other people in this world are careless, may Allah provide my guidance. Allah send 124,000 messengers in this world for guiding people and conveying his message to them. Without these messengers thoe world wouldn't have been same as it is now, and why is this world today fighting with each other is just because we haven't got any messenger from Allah since more than 1500 years. The last and the least messenger of Allah are Hazrath Mohammad (Peace By Upon Him), after this Allah said not to send any messengers. Amongst all Messengers of Allah Hazrah Essa SAW is one who were sent to this world by Allah as a messenger not as his Son. Allah states in Sura-e-Ikhlas In the name of Allah The Beneficent, the Merciful. Say: He is Allah, the One! Allah, the eternally Besought of all! He begetteth not nor was begotten. And there is none comparable unto Him. A short summary of this would be, Allah has no relative nor he is relative of anyone. So this is another proof that Hazrath Essa SAW are not the son of Allah. Hazrath Essa are alive and their soul was captured alive, they will return in this world before the Dooms day. http://www.al-sunnah.com/mary&jesus.htm see this web site . here are some facts which proofs some differences that chirstains have. hope i have explained correctly, may Allah give you all guidence. I will be thankfull to help you in future :) Allah Hafiz
@humaaaa (1386)
• Pakistan
20 Dec 06
well thanks a lot for the appriciation but I really want Allah to forgive me for my sins and this is something what i did to make Him Happy. thanks again :)
@kingadnan (1538)
• Pakistan
19 Dec 06
Very good huma i give you plus point! i have posted many comment and discussion about Islam because i want to removes misconceptions about islam, islam means peace, so thank you to post about islam. i really like your post.
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@SirPyan (429)
• Malaysia
19 Dec 06
Mmmm, yes to answer john1984, the Muslims believe the original Bible has been "edited" by human hands. The Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet, a human being. I'm not gonna argue about this, there are too many topics on this already. Still, who cares. Muslims love and respect Jesus, he still a prophet for Muslims, like Abraham, Moses and Muhammad.
@crassus (113)
• United States
19 Dec 06
Merlin was a prophet too, yet no one mentions him. Is it because this bible that everyone speaks of does not mention him.
@Naseem00 (1996)
• Pakistan
25 Dec 06
And what about 'this bible' that everybody believes in fortelling about prophet Muhammad)PBUH) Dont believe me? Have a look here www.answering-christiniaty.com
• India
19 Dec 06
NO COMPARISON NOT CHRISTANITY ISLAM IS TOP
@binbin (133)
• Indonesia
19 Dec 06
I agree
• Brazil
19 Dec 06
God - people and God
I agree, therefore they are completely different... exeto for a thing... Abos has a God.
• Pakistan
25 Dec 06
There was a debate between Dr. Zakir Naik and Mr. William Campbell about this topic whom even Bush came to see. It was about the topic you gave and in that our muslim Speaker totally deminished yours and he became a Muslim. None of your people know the Holy Bible by heart and a Muslim Scholar knows each and every word of your book.
@Naseem00 (1996)
• Pakistan
26 Dec 06
What is the use of telling all this to these people? They already have made up their minds. The propaganda has overtaken their senses and all they can now do is to reject the truth.
@faisal86 (471)
• Pakistan
21 Dec 06
Islam is a religion of Peace, AS u said that Jesus is a son of God, i dont agree with you He is a messenger of God to the humanity And also you said that Muslims belive on old testimonials, the reason is that we have our one and only Holy Quran which was sent to us by God(ALLAH) through His last Messenger, Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H). There is not a change of even a single dot in our Quran which was given to our beloved Prophet (P.B.U.H). and in christianity, Bibles from different Publishers having different material, which means that the Bible is not in its original condition. For more Questions, send me your question in messege
@Naseem00 (1996)
• Pakistan
26 Dec 06
JustRobie, you prove everytime that you hate Islam. It is because you do not know anything about it. Your openions are baised so we do not even care what you say. You blame muslims of intolerance and look at your very own words. Do you think this is tolerance?
• United States
20 Dec 06
I think that Muslims believe parts of the Bible. However, they never read it and no one taught them what it says. I think they only believe because the Quran and their teachers tell them to. It's so hard to make much sense of the Quran because it contradicts itself. I guess it's easy for them to believe as long as they do what they are told and never question the Quran which they believe are words from God. Just like in many other cults that have twisted the Bible so some man can be worshiped instead of Jesus.
@humaaaa (1386)
• Pakistan
20 Dec 06
Quran paak is the proper code of life, it has all the how to live life, and all other Holy Books are summerized in Quran-e-kareem so we don't need to read any other book if we already have the worlds greatest book releived on our Prophet Hazrath Mohammad (Peace be upon him)
@musha_ali (391)
• Pakistan
25 Dec 06
we should not compare Religions because all religions are created by God.........so we should give respect 2 God's creations......
• Pakistan
25 Dec 06
you name suggests that you are a muslim but your belief is not correct.....though we should not abuse other religions because Allah has forbidden us to do so........but every religion is not from God.........all the religions are deviations except islam.........from the time of Adam to the time of Muhammad (PBUT)...God has provided only one religion to human beings.......the religion of Muhammad , the religion of Adam , the religion of Jesus, the religion of Moses and the religion of all the prophets was same ...though it completed at the time of Muhammad (PBUH)..........and that Religion is Islam ....and guidance is clear ........all other religions are deviations...Christians actually don't follow Christ....because the religion of Christ was ISLAM.....
@gloria777 (1674)
• India
19 Dec 06
You are wrong. Muslims only believe in the ISt 5 books of Bible, that too with some changes. But they do not believe any other books of Bible including the 5 books of New Testament as you mentioned. Jesus is the Son of God as prophesied in the Old testament also. In New Testament there are many instances where Jesus himself declare him as the Son of God. Islam believes only in God. They do not believe in Jesus. If they do not believe let them not. It is our luck that we got a chance to believe Jesus who is also called as Emmanuel means - GOD WITH US.
@kingadnan (1538)
• Pakistan
19 Dec 06
Its means you and your people makes your own religion with you own thinking and own hands , all your people including you don't believe in God and don't believe in jesus, you all are doing formality, you are absolutely wrong, i don't know new testements, i only believe in truth , only believe in true God, i am not creating my own religion as you and your peoples. Jesus was a prophet of Allah, not was a son, he was a simple human like you and me not was a god. if you don't know truth please don't more arguments ok.
@paul8675 (750)
• Australia
2 Jan 07
They believe that Jesus was just one of several prophets.
• Philippines
19 Dec 06
Muslims believe in the Quran, Christians in the Holy Bible. There's no way to merge these two books. It's up for people to choose which they would like to believe in and follow or obey. The servants of God are there to preach the Word of God and if a Muslim (Islam is the religion) hears the Word and obeys, then he turns his back against Islam and embrace Christianity. He can never be a believer of Islam and Christianity at the same time. I keep on saying God does not compel people to believe Him so let people believe in what they believe. If you choose Christianity, then study the Holy Bible very well. May God bless you. SEN
@kingadnan (1538)
• Pakistan
19 Dec 06
For your Kind Information Both books are teach about islam and sent by Allah to his Prophets .but now bible has been modified by some human and The Holy Quran is Remaing same as sent by Allah. Jesus Was the prophet of Allah . Allah sent a book name "Bible" to his prophet Jesus. we call jesus with his reall name "Hazrat Essa", other religion are created by human but only Islam is created by Allah(God).
@LoYaL132 (335)
• Netherlands
19 Dec 06
Koran - Picture of the Quran
Very interested discussion. Jezus is in both, Koran and Bible a prophet. But in the Quran he is just a normal prophet and the bible describes him as the son of God. Mohammed is the prophet, and the son of god in the Quran.
@Naseem00 (1996)
• Pakistan
19 Dec 06
Excuse me!! Where in Quran did you find this written?? Its disgusting how people can say things like that about others religion.
• United States
21 Dec 06
muslisms are terrorist unless its those that live in the u.s those are okay other than that they are terrorists
@kaniam (582)
• India
27 Dec 06
i support both of them