Prisoners earning college degrees?

United States
December 20, 2006 2:47pm CST
I have worked my whole life to raise my family, go to school, and be an honest citizen. It's not easy trying to explain to a 3 year old why I can't be home in the evenings because I have to go to class.... Meanwhile, you have people who robbed convience stores, stole cars, and sold drugs, sitting in prison and getting a free college education and living rent-free while people like you and I pay for it all. Now, I get the theory... give them an education and maybe they can become a productive part of society when their time is up, right? Well, why can't they take out a loan and pay it off later like the rest of us have to do? Why should honest, hardworking citizens like us have to pay for them to get ahead in life? What have they ever done to help us?
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@jen20619 (1302)
• Ireland
21 Dec 06
u serious
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@kids91911 (4366)
• United States
21 Dec 06
I do believe that some can be rehabilated back into society.
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@marciascott (25557)
• United States
21 Dec 06
I say give them a onother chance in life, God said forget and forget. Everyone is not so bad in prison, some people don't even belong in prison. There there because they were found gulty, but are inocent.
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@marciascott (25557)
• United States
21 Dec 06
I say give them a another chance in life, God said forget and forget. Everyone is not so bad in prison, some people don't even belong in prison. There there because they were found guilty, but are inocent.
• Philippines
21 Dec 06
we need to give them a chance to earn their living by honest means, as we all know being an ex convict disadvantage them already. if you would think of it, it's really unfair to support them because we, honest citizen contribute for their welfare but if we don't and nobody would give them a chance to live and honest life, they will forever be our burden.
• Egypt
21 Dec 06
How to eary money ??
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• Philippines
21 Dec 06
If given the chance to change a prisoner's life, a degree from school is a fresh start.
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• United States
21 Dec 06
1) They're people. You think you're better than them or something? Life isn't fair and dishonest people get rewarded all the time. If you want to go to jail and get a free education, then commit a crime, otherwise quite complaining. 2) Most of them come from poor backgrounds anyways. They would never get an education without this. There are *social* reasons they are the way they are. 3) Why are you so worried about other people benefitting? Oh no! Something good is happening to that person! Terrible! 4) If you don't want to pay for those loans, don't. There, now you're on the same level as them. Free education through dishonesty. 5) How many of those people in jail are actually innocent? No idea? Me either. I guess those people shouldn't have any chances once they get out either.
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• United States
21 Dec 06
My dad is a correctional officer at the Mcalester State pen, which is a max security prison. He is always telling me about how the criminals are always getting a better education so that they can help themselves after they get out. I think that this is a good idea but I don't think that we should have to pay for there college education. I do however think that they should be able to get there GED for free.
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• United States
21 Dec 06
The only college education a prisoner can get is one that he or his family pays for. That college education is usually a correspondence course through a college. We aren't paying for their college educations.
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@polachicago (19143)
• United States
20 Dec 06
I would say, yes they can gain college degree only if they work first and save money for it, or work and pay for it. I do not think it is fair for us, tax payers to pay for it.
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• United States
21 Dec 06
Would you hire an ex-con, if given the choice between a college graduate or a man or woman that has obtained their degree in prison?
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@Jshean20 (14374)
• Canada
20 Dec 06
Prisoners earn free college degrees?...I was NOT aware of that! That is indeed unfair, it almost makes it encouraging for someone to break the law! Afterall, they get their education free and free room and board. I think it's a great idea for prisoners to earn a degree in an attempt to turn their lives around, but of course they should have to pay the price like the rest of us do.
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• United States
21 Dec 06
There are a lot of things I could say about this comment, but I will just say this. Free, what is that, we all pay for what we do in the long run.
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@chuggs (314)
• United States
20 Dec 06
I worked in a County Jail for over a year and saw numerous inmates working on College related things. I alos understand the theory, but I can say from what I saw, just because someone is edjucated or is getting edjucated, doesn't make them better people, or more law abiding. For example, most of the inmates that I kept watch over I saw again and again for various crimes. So them getting adjucated didn't change them. Basically all the college programs do is give the inmates somethiong to do while serving their time. It should no at all be free nor should it fall on us as honest citizens to foot the bill. It is rediculas.
@Ravenladyj (22992)
• United States
21 Dec 06
I think serving in County and serving in State is very different...I know guys (and women) who've done both and granted regardless of the amount of time one serves, some ppl are just b@stards and go nowheres but from what I've seen, someone who serves a harder sentence in a fed prison for a heavier crime is more inclined to put in a serious effort to get it right rather than someone who does 2 less a day in county....
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@loved1 (5338)
• United States
10 Jan 07
I hear where you are coming from and agree with you in some ways. There are always going to be people in the world who seem to get a free ride while the rest of us slave away. I think this is a case where by helping others we are helping ourselves at the same time.
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• India
29 Dec 06
y would a prisoner need a degree.. who will hire him??
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21 Dec 06
I agree it's not right to give them a college degree but that doesn't meaning criminals get an easy life, there in there for a reason and are locked in a cell for most of the day. I do think they need something to take their mind of things though and maybe help make them a better person no matter how bigger crime they committed.
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• United States
21 Dec 06
I can clearly see you have no knowlege of the prison system. By the time these inmates reach the streets. This learning means nothing. They can't get a job,as they won't be hired. They have no trust with anyone in charge. After being treated like scum for years. They can't cope with being told what to do. Getting beat and raped in prison. Beat with phone handles etc. I think at least they could learn to read a book. Heal a wound fix a computer. Can your mind not see them off welfare. These people made mistakes as we all can do. I would sure hope your child never makes one.
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@Bayleigh (141)
• United States
21 Dec 06
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I never really thought of it this way. Your absolutely right though, why do they get it for free for comitting crimes? Im in default now with my student loans and cant get caught up with it, while our taxes pay for the cost of housing these inmates. I dont think it really works though, their theory of trying to reform them. I mean if your confined to a certain area for a period of time, your going to adjust for the time your there. For instance, a large majority of inmates will "turn to Jesus" while incarcerated then once out again they forget their God Almighty and resort to their old ways. And perhaps in some instances, whos to say that the education will not just help them to beome bigger and better criminals? They could get more articulate with their crimes! lol You really have me curious and I have a few questions for the state I live in. lol Thank you for enlightening me!!
@mantian (20)
21 Dec 06
i think in the uk, it costs £2000 per week to keep each prisoner, paid for by the public. this is outrageous. also, the most likely thing people will learn in prisons is how to commit more crime. there may well be inocent people in prison, or those imprisoned for rediculouys reasons, but unfortunately, it would take a radical overhaul of the whole legal and prison systems to resolve that. prisons are getting more & more crowded in this country, it is all just getting sooo stupid. so whats the answer? surely we should be concentrating on keeping people out of prison in the first place, though, this in itself is a huge undertaking. and those in prision, should they get an education? i think it could possibly help them 'find' themselves, but they should be offered other rehabilitation assitance (eg. therapy) as well. but my opinion. as well as this, they should be working, paying for their own upkeep. the majority have committed crimes, so they should tae on that responsibilty. i wonder if chain-gangs still existed... not only would the prison have an income, but it may even act as a deterrant.
@sahergul (774)
• Pakistan
21 Dec 06
life is an exam by creator of this universe to his people... why don't u touch any girl without marrying her... by just few formel things its right to touch her.. and it goes to everything defining right / wrong... so God just wanted to judge his people that who will believe in right and in him and ya right things happens to right people... and he will reward us for following his orders and staying at right path... cheers :)
• United States
21 Dec 06
I think that the people who are in jail can get a degree if they want one. If they want to better their lives they can get it. But the only catch is they actually have to put their education to good use. Like getting a good job and paying off their debt that they gained when they were taking the classes
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@ais_nedla (163)
• United States
21 Dec 06
this seems like a good idea. but i just hope we wont end up paying for their degrees. its just a little sad to me. when responsible normal people have to take out loans to go to college. and you have these prisoners who obviously did something bad in their lives get their bachelor's free of charge. they should like really pay for it, just the same as regular people do.
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• India
21 Dec 06
I can understand your problem that a person who had take care of his family and struggle a lot for education who is sincere,and a good citizen but the prisoner get the education free of cost without any struggle though they have done bad deeds..... but we cant help it you dont worry everything goes right and that day will also come when people get to know your importance......
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• United States
21 Dec 06
i totally agree with you. i went to college with a guy who was being sent to the same college as me from his paroll and they were paying for every cent. he didnt have to work very hard either becasue he knew that he would get special attention from the teacher because the teachers could not flunk him due to being sued. I actually asked the teacher if she could flunk him and she said no she couldnt. the board of education wouldnt allow her to becasue one) he was black two) he was on paroll and he was the only one in the class with these special circumstances. so if she did flunk him then he could easily turn around and sue the school on grounds of discrimination. So this guy was in prision and on paroll and now getting a wonderful educaion at a private college all for freee. it made me so angry to know that i was being put on the second burner because i was not "special" enough or shall i say screwed up enough. whatever. it is not right at all.
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• United States
21 Dec 06
Kinda makes you feel like commiting a crime.
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