Crisis Loan

By Gabs
@gabs8513 (48716)
United Kingdom
January 2, 2007 2:29am CST
Has anyone here heard of this? Well here in the Uk this is a Loan that People can apply for when they are on Disability ( like me) Jobless or Social Anyway as some in here know I am moving or hoping to be I am having Problems getting the Bond Money and first month Rent which is required as the Council pays the rent in Arreas from the Council and I was told to try this for the rent and the Bond Well a couple of Months ago I saw a Documentary on TV where a single Mum is getting this Crisis Loan every Year to buy her Child Christmas Presents So I applied and guess what I got refused The Situation is my Son has given me notices which I have to get of him anyway and also him and his Partner want their own Life now so I sent the Copy of the Notices in and also the Doctor report saying that it is best for my Health to move out of the Area as it is air here Anyway Reason I got refused Reasons Rent deposit They are not allowed to pay Rent in Advance We can only pay a crisis Loan if there is no other way of preventing a serious Risk to the Health and Safety of you Now can someone please explain to me that it is not a Health Risk of being removed of the Premises as I have had my Notices which are actually for today but of course my Son will not kick me out And also they have a Doctor report stating that she will support my move away from the Area as the Air is poluted badly and it is a risk to my Health Also can someone explain to me How is it a Health and Safety Risk that a single Mum is not able to buy her Child Christmas presents even though single Mums here are well looked after money and housing wide So the Single Mum gets this Loan to buy Christmas Presents but A Disabeled Person who has had notices to move out and nowhere to go and who is being caused a lot of Distress and anxiety through this which affects her Illness does not get it as it is not a Health Risk ????? If anyone knows how to explain the justice of this to me please do
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18 responses
@funnysis (2619)
• United States
3 Jan 07
cutie - I found this bouncing around thought it might cheer you up.
I am not sure what they would call it over there but here in the U.S. we have what is called legal aide they pay an attorney to represent you as you are being refused help you are entitled to go to court and battle with them through the means of the legal system call or email tv stations with it make it public knowledge then you will get there attention giving it to a single mum to buy christmas presents is wrong she could have made the children something for christmas I made 4+ kids stuff for christmas every year.I wish you luck and you know I would help you in a heartbeat hope all goes well keep me up to date.
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
3 Jan 07
Yes we have that but it is Citizen Advise I have to go to first and they are there for this sort of thing
@BittyBiddy (2904)
• Ireland
2 Jan 07
It sounds like the way these payments work everywhere. The ones who "know" the system are the ones who get everything. Can you appeal?
@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
2 Jan 07
Yes I have so waiting to hear back but also going to the Council again tomorrow as of all a Sudden I am also entitled to income support and january last year they said I wasn't now think about that one So appparently it makes a difference so trecking there tomorrow again with all the Paperwork my Son has now written a Letter to say due to the problems with the Benefits he will extend my Notices to the 10th but after that no more
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• Ireland
3 Jan 07
Good luck with the council today. Hope everything works out. Another idea might be to get a local councillor on your side if you haven't done so.
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
3 Jan 07
Hi bitty Nope nothing they basically said it is not their problem if I am out on the streets it is down to the social I have been up all night and I have just sat here the last 2 hours crying it is getting to much now I am now trying to get through to the social to get some answers and if not its cab tomorrow Thank you for your support
@kathy77 (7488)
• Australia
2 Jan 07
I am on a disabled pension as well Gabs, and what I would do is to go to your health minister or someone that represents that section and try to get them to look into this problem, as this is a health problem like you said the air polution and you cannot breath properly, and show them the letter from your doctor as well. I think that this maybe the only way you will get somewhere with Council good luck with this.
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
2 Jan 07
Thanks Kathy tried that one and they are trying to say they can't help I am being passed from Pillow to post here that is why I am getting so stressed
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@xXmeganxX (4423)
2 Jan 07
hiya again gabs, why not try and apply for a community care grant this does not have to be paid back it's for when you move house and to buy furniture etc and you could use that for a deposit or maybe a budgeting loan, this has to be paid back with " interest free"! hope this helps. Megan!
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
2 Jan 07
Hi there Megan the first one I am not entitled to again and the second one well I have only just now been granted the Income in January last year I got told I am not entitled and when all this started the Council said to apply for it as I should be and guess what I am entitled to an extra £115 a fortnight and they have saved 12 months money on me as I can not prove I applied for it in January and you have to be in receipt of Income support for 25 weeks I am appealing against it anyway so waiting for outcome next step is Citizen Advice
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@xXmeganxX (4423)
3 Jan 07
yesssssssssssssss gabs what a brill idea citizens fight really hard to get help for you in regards to your situation, as i have been in this before and they helped me! good luck and hope it all works out well for you X
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• India
3 Jan 07
i also say that the money should be given to those who really need and if you have a lot money as capitel the do serv the starving people around the world
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@alchemistrx (2571)
• Philippines
3 Jan 07
this injustice why can't they give you the loan and why they can't be considerate.I hope you are doing fine it is just a lot of distress that you were refused and unfair for for you. I hope that there something that is done about it.
@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
3 Jan 07
Thank you dear no I am Ill at the moment the stress with my Sons Partner and this is not doing me good my Doctor had to put me on stronger Tablets to keep me calm in the last 5 Days I have slept 8 hours last night I was up all night so I have had no sleep for 24 hours and I will be leaving in a bit to go and see them I will let everyone know the outcome of course
@kstanley7 (1172)
3 Jan 07
oh man.... I've lived in scotland and england and I tell you, the social is one seriously messed up place. I used to be on the social and am seriously glad that I am off that joke now.. I will be honest with you on this from my own eyes and judgement but it seems that the reason everyone is coming to the uk is because of the social system, it seems that our government is taking more of an interest in people wanting asylum over here, don't get me wrong I have nothing wrong with anyone that wants asylum. but if you take a look at the statistics of this all with regards to our government, well it seems that if your a single asylum seeker, then basically your entitled to the same as someone on high rate disability, I saw evidence of this whilst in scotland and boy was I ticked off. but getting back to the point here, I can tell you right now gabs, because your living with your son, the social see it as your son will give you some leway on the notices and not remove you. Which I am sorry to hear, what I would do is recommend speaking with the C.A.B and if that does not work, take it up with your M.P. Apart from that I can not think of anything else, for which I am sorry, but all the best in this. PS!!!!!!! please let us know what happens.
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
3 Jan 07
You have said exactly the right thing and it not us being racist it is a Fact Well the it is not just mine Sons Notice it is also the Health my Doctor Reort I am on high rate Disability but believe me it is not that much so I do not know what else this Person was getting and my Son will set me out he has put that in black and white to them And of all this today does not work then CAB is next Local MP forget it already done that not interrested I could say something but I won't lol But thank you for your Advise
@vikceo (1301)
• India
3 Jan 07
nope i have not heard about it to this extent. i guess talking or mailing to the concerned person in this regard could clear your doubt. however whatever you are saying here really makes sense.
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
3 Jan 07
I am going to see one lot of them this morning mailing is no good at all so I will see them face to face
• Canada
3 Jan 07
I live in Canada and I too live on a Disability Pension. I really can't explain it to you but it happens here too. I wouldn't say that single moms have an easy time of it but they have better benefits. I was a single mom on disability with two kids, it wasn't easy but I have to say that it was easier than right now. I survive and that is about it. I'm sorry I can't begin to explain it but I totally agree with you. We get the shaft because we're disabled? I think that we have enough problems.
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
3 Jan 07
Yes we do but I will fight for my rights I am very sick at the moment but that is not stopping me Thank you so much
@manong05 (5029)
• Philippines
3 Jan 07
That's sad I hope you can come up with something that those in authority will understand. I wish I can speak for you but I come from the part of the world where the case is a little different. We have a calamity loan, it can be availed of by people who are affected by natural calamities and disasters. As long as someone is a resident of the community affected, he can surely get a soft loan.
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
3 Jan 07
Thank you well later I will be going to see them again and if still nothing then it is legal help
@r0ck_r0ck (1953)
• India
3 Jan 07
this is sick! dam british gov! it sux!
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
3 Jan 07
Yes it is and I guess we will never change that Thank you so much
2 Jan 07
I have many experiences of crazy social service decisions through my mum who was a single mum on benefits for many years. However we have appealed and won every decision that has gone against her. Appeal it, don't just accept what they say. Get fee legal advice alos. There are many companies that will do this.
@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
2 Jan 07
Oh I have appealed and tomorrow I am going to the Council again aswell I am not giving up that easyat all thank you for this and my next step is Citizen Advise
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@SK401001 (934)
• United States
2 Jan 07
I am not sure how true this is but I think most people get refused the first time regardless of the situation, I would request a hearing to re-evaluate your situation... Just an Idea
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
2 Jan 07
Yes I am starting to believe that first time I claimed income they refused and now of all sudden I get it well I have appealed so we will see
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@tambdy (1969)
2 Jan 07
My friend has had a few of these, so i can give you some tips on the phore or form when you are applying say that you need money for gas/electricy and food as well as toiletries. They will give you £6 per day until your next payment date so if you get paid in one week £42, you are guareented to get it as long as you say this hope it helps. Need anymore help pm me. P.S they class a health risk as you getting the cold or not being able to eat, stupid but it is what they do.
@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
2 Jan 07
Well I would be getting cold and not able to eat on the Street as I have my Notices from here But thank you so much for this and I will PM you if I need anymore Advise
@TerryZ (22083)
• United States
2 Jan 07
Thats horrible. What is wrong with people? I sometimes think they are being paid off. Because when you hear of something like that happening its way to bazzar for them even getting in the program. You really wonder how they do get in these programs when they dont need it. Now people like you deserve it and dont get it. Oh gabs it makes me so mad. I could spit.
@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
2 Jan 07
Awwwwwww thank you TerryZ well I am of to the Council again tomorrow and if that does not work then the Citizen Advise as I am at the end of strength here now
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
2 Jan 07
well I call it injustice . not right some one should get my for christmas present when your health is more at risk . mommy could have made some presents
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
2 Jan 07
Yes that is true but a single Mum gets more then me here so why is she not able to get her Kids Presents even I have managed and still do it might not be anything big but I have always managed
• United States
2 Jan 07
It just does not make sense to me Gabs. Here in the USA We dont have such a fund. The churches usually take care of emergencies of this nature. It just does not seem fair not fair at all. If i could bring you to my home I would. As far as justice Gabs there is none.
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@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
2 Jan 07
I know you would Sweet and thank you
@forfein (2509)
2 Jan 07
Hi Gabs There is'nt any! It is another typical crazy thing that this country is getting famous for!! Why do you think we have all those people at Calais "queueing up" to come here!"!!!
@gabs8513 (48716)
• United Kingdom
2 Jan 07
Hi there Forfeign it is good to see you back Yes I know but I am fighting I am Ill through it but I am fighting I have appealled waiting for that to come back to me
@sahergul (774)
• Pakistan
2 Jan 07
well buddy ... do not know wt to say