You Tube and belly dance

United States
January 11, 2007 11:48pm CST
I love to look at some of the dancers doing their thing on YouTube. You can get great ideas for technique there. What disturbs me is the mean comments some of these dancers get. They are putting themselves out there only to be faced with an alarming amount of juvenile comments. For the most part, they are directed to some of the heavier dancers, and even those that aren't as heavy. It angers me to see this behavior, since being heavy should not be an issue with belly dance. It is for everyone.
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• United States
12 Jan 07
I couldn't agree more. I moderate some dance communities online just for larger than average sized dancers, and I'm beginning to think there are more of us than I ever thought and we are growing in numbers every day. And I hate reading the utube or metacafe comments anymore. There will be a video of amazing art or dance or juggling and some moron will be saying 'big deal, I could do that with my eyes closed.' Women in particular seem to get a brunt of derogatory remarks. Large women even more so. And I don't see this changing anytime soon, which is sad.
• United States
12 Jan 07
I agree. It is sad. A form of exercise that is both good for you and enjoyable. Something you can stick with. Pretty outfits, pretty music...it's the perfect fitness regimen and a beautiful art form. Any dancer regardless of size has a right to be proud of their accomplishments in this area.
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• United States
12 Jan 07
count me in those numbers! i'm no skinny mini, as my momma likes to call toothpick women. And it sincerely disgusts me the comments made toward heavier people period. It's amazing how far advertizing has brain washed everyone.
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@nancygibson (3738)
• France
12 Jan 07
It hadnt occurred to me to look at YouTube for dance ideas, I went to a dance show last night (Hossam and Serena Ramsey, it was excellent) and one of their gust dancers was a really quite large girl, but she was so beautiful when sh e danced, it really didnt matter at all that she was technically overweight for her height. I think its more about celebrating teh female form, and showing that one has muscle control and grace and can interpret the music with passion and integrity, its nothing to do with individual body shapes at all.
• Japan
12 Jan 07
i am not on the thin side either so i know how hurtful those comments can be especialy by people who are good and capable dancers missy elliot was always a good dancer but she dancers even better since she lost weight
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@lilmissy (481)
• United States
12 Jan 07
i love you tube i wish they would make a youtube and mylot combo site that would be really popular but they do say mean things on utube and large size women can often do many things that regular sized women can do
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@shomomo (850)
• Israel
12 Jan 07
Now that I think about it perhaps I should look at some of those, maybe I'll find something useful. I think that it should be a good idea to publish a video segment and let the users buy the whole video if you are making a large-scale video at home, it should be interesting to check if users are interested in your filming.
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• United States
12 Jan 07
Yeah, take a look. You can even find some video tutorials that are helpful.
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@uath13 (8227)
• United States
12 Jan 07
Unfortunantly there are lots of adolescents out there that like to post rude comments. Its happening all over the place on lots of different sites on different topics. Online there are no reprecussions for being rude. Its like a free pass to be obnoxious. None of those type things were ever said around any of the troops I know when they perform in public. Somebody'd get slapped.
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• United States
12 Jan 07
Anninomity breeds rudeness. I think if everyone had to sign their name and leave a phone number after every post we would find a lot more compassion on the internet. lol
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@hariharbhat (1314)
• India
12 Jan 07
There are different choices and like their choice there would be differnt opinions.Any one who persues an art in a dedicated manner neednot give attention to these comments.That does not mean that the positive comments should be ignored.
@sofaki (9)
12 Jan 07
I believe bellydance is for everyone who wants to dance. We have to dance without making comments about other dancers. Its a lot of work to learn how to bellydance.
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• Australia
12 Jan 07
I'll have to see what their like. Never checked before. But I agree; if someone is being so brave you should congratulate them on that.
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• India
12 Jan 07
yeah......me too.....
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• Canada
12 Jan 07
Well I just wrote a nice long reply to this discussion and got that message about not being able to paste if I'm under a 500 rating... and of course, I wasn't trying to paste anything :( I'm so frustrated... anyway... gripe over. Belly dancing is a great activity because women of any size CAN do it... there's the definite physical benefit but, from people I know who have done it, it gives an incredible boost to the self-confidence and self-esteem. That is something that everyone needs, regardless of size. My niece used to take jazz ballet and we'd go to the year-end show. In the whole dance school there was exactly ONE larger-sized young woman. She was an excellent dancer... clearly the leader in her class, as the others could be seen looking to her when they'd get lost in the routine. However, each time she would take the stage, some idiots in the audience would snicker (audibly!) and make inappropriate comments. It's unfortunate that the typical dance costumes are so skin-tight and revealing. Of course, they aren't flattering to a heavier person and it just draws even more attention. People can't look past the first impression to appreciate the dancer's true abilities. It's shameful. Dance is a form of self-expression and everyone should have the option to participate, if they are interested. Weight should be a non-issue.
• United States
12 Jan 07
LOL..Oh I hate that. Vent out a good long rant, only to lose it. Grr. The costumes aren't flattering, but when your overweight, very little is. The point of the outfit is to show off your hips and belly, it being the focal point of the dance. However, I have seen tribal outfits that cover completely, and for more cabaret style dancers, there is the option of the body sock. Regardless, big is big, no matter what your wearing the comments will come.
• Canada
13 Jan 07
LOL oh I know!!! I type like a madwoman and POOF... nuthin! Like I need more stress in my life ;) Oh and please don't misunderstand on my comment about costumes... I wasn't actually referring specifically to belly dance... I find the flowing nature of the costumes quite beautiful. The dance attire that bothers me is for modern dance, jazz ballet, etc. The shows I've attended have costuming that is basically always footless spandex tights and spandex tops, the unitard, more or less... and for those of us with weight to lose, spandex can be a very naughty word indeed.
@diptesh14 (224)
• India
13 Jan 07
i too like youtube since it really provides tons of video and about belly i too want to learn it, can you please provide the links where i can watch belly dance videos.
• United States
13 Jan 07
I cant copy and paste yet on here, but just go to YouTube and do a belly dance search. You can also buy how-to- videos cheap from Amazon.
@icequeen (2843)
• Canada
12 Jan 07
Well unfortunately when you put yourself in the public eye...you are bound to get critisism...good or bad....
12 Jan 07
Definetly -- people don't seem to care about the comments they make over the internet -- as those they're not the same as saying it to real people -- it's quite sad, really.
@nuffsed (1275)
12 Jan 07
Well this question led me to go and have a quick look see. Oh yes, there are some lovely ladies doing it for the guys... hmmm What's to criticise? Damn look at that motorbility.. lol Move it babe... Oh yea!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDzAT-7Iioc&mode=related&search
• United States
12 Jan 07
You make her sound like a stripper. She is not "doing it for the guys"
• United States
18 Apr 07
I completely agree with you. It is very aggravating to see some of the immatuare comments some people reply to videos. Bellydancing is such a beautiful and creative art. No one has a rigth to put anyone else down.
@Kalikala (433)
• United States
12 Apr 07
If you want to see some really amazing bellydance, search YouTube for Rachel Brice. She is a tribal fusion dancer, and she is so amazing! I swear that I think she is half snake!
@babray06 (1787)
• India
13 Jan 07
It's upto an individual how the person behaves in public and even in the comfort of the home. I feel the job of the dancer is to dance properly and try to achieve the highest level of perfection while dancing. Now it should not be an issue whether or not the dancer is heavy. Those who are passing this kind of comments should try to feel how will they take it if people do the same to them.
@Aeval39 (774)
• United States
13 Jan 07
I agree, but I don't think there's much that can be done about this. Anyone with an internet connection can log on to youtube, and a lot of times the comments are juvenile because, well, the people commenting are.. kids. You can always create a website just for bellydancers who can get positive critique and comments on their dancing, but I doubt youtube is the place to get that.
@timou87 (1643)
• Singapore
13 Jan 07
I agree with you, sadly the Internet is a place where identities can be hidden and people feel safe posting such disparaging comments whithout having to expose their own insecurities, I appluad the belly dancers who showcase their talent to the world, and keep this cultural dance alive and kciking.
@sweetcakes (3506)
• United States
12 Jan 07
i think belly dancing is for everyone nice work out, and you must remeber people are going to talk no matter what, just ignore them.
• Philippines
12 Jan 07
i used to take that class its a matter of mind and focus to perfect belly dancing