Depression- what have you been told?

Australia
January 12, 2007 5:14pm CST
Depression is a physical condition with mental side effects. I've had it, I beat it, and believe me, I'm thankful every day. I see a lot of posts from people trying to deal with it, so I'm more than curious what people have been told about dealing with it. I started eating, and generally getting physically fit. I was eating a horse a day, 5 meals, literally. I took supplements, minerals, vitamins, amino acids, and worked out like you wouldn't believe. I wasn't told to do this, but I figured that since the body can't work without the resources. It worked, and I got off the medication, and that was ten years ago. It worries me that some people don't seem to be getting any advice about the rebuilding yourself part of the treatment. I really do want to know, please comment on this one.
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@coolcatzz (1587)
• Canada
12 Jan 07
I've been on meds for about 10 years now and was told that it is very likely something I'll be on for the rest of my life. I think it is great that you have been able to conquer this. Good for you. Did they just slowly wean you off of your medication or what???? I'd love to be off of it but I know how much I rely on it. But yes I think dieting and exercise would really help. When I first got depressed I was average weight and now I'm way over weight and need to do something about it. But what I find is the meds make me so tired I don't have the energy to exercise. Again congrats on your success.
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• Australia
12 Jan 07
Matter of fact, it was easier than it sounds. I did some research and wound up with a broad spectrum of supplements, and a lot of exercise. By the original course was finished, I didn't need another. Really killed the damn thing, and although it tried a comeback for a few episodes, it didn't make it. Medication and fatigue is a bit difficult. Tell you what, try some organic food, and drink a bit more water when you eat. Water helps you digest properly, and lack of water plays havoc with the metabolism. Organic food is good basic nutrition, and easier to handle than complicated diet regimes. Exercise, if you're overweight, you have to start slow, and do reasonable levels of exercise. ****Further note to anyone reading this: I have no problem turning this thread into a help line. If I can suggest anything useful, I will.****
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@lulu1950 (25)
• United States
12 Jan 07
I had a experiance with depression avter I had a child. It was horrible and They told me I have had this most of my life but I only thought it was normal because I hid my feelings and was very add in school, but in the 1950,s nobody knew much about it and I was smart enough to get to high school but I was up or down and a clown to everyone. I made people laugh. I had dark moments like in a closet alone, or a dark hole.I had a baby at 15 and the father treated me badly,but her im 56 years old on zolft and making it better than my past.
• Australia
13 Jan 07
Post natal depression is horrendous, and it's near epidemic level at the moment. The 50s were nobody's idea of an enlightened time, either, except maybe Madison Avenue. Interesting that many people use that expression, falling into a hole. Very apt, too. I used Zoloft, it was like a cushion when you need it. I'm concerned that so many people seem to be just "stabilized", not being given any advice about improving their physical health. The extra food and supplements really made a tremendous difference for me. Better yet, you can self-manage.
• Australia
13 Jan 07
Yeah, B vitamins, and some things called biochemical salts, (you can get them from the chemist, see the posts above) and amino acids. With all these, you can just stick to ordinary doses, and there are no dangers of toxicity ot further complications and nuisances. **** Be careful, lulu, hypothyroid is tough, and you will need a pharmacist's advice, preferably someone you know is good. With constipation, the aminos might upset if you haven't got rid of it.**** For the constipation, I suggest Chamomile, it's much kinder to the sufferer. It also helps calm the stomach after indigestion, and is definitely non-toxic.
• United States
13 Jan 07
wanderlaugh; could you give me some vitimins you take thay helps depression?I also have hypothroid and they increased my mine from 112mcg to 150mcg . I was so constipated but Im getting better. thank- god. any help I would appreciate alot. lulu1950
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@_hope_ (3902)
• Australia
13 Jan 07
Congratulations on your success .You have done well. my depression has been with me for the past 15yrs and in that time i have used so many treatements even walking but nothing has helped in the long term not the past five years have become so difficult i have even tried to end my life the pain just becomes so unbearable and i just want it to end . the y have now put it down to post traumatic stress disorder from what happened to me earlier on but the medication and even trying to keep myself active still hasn`t taken away the sadness and pain .medication only works for a short while and infacts just hides the symptoms it doesn`t get rid of them .I am not over weight and i am active most days
• Australia
13 Jan 07
PTSD is something that concerns me deeply, (I'm the son of an ex-combat soldier) but I've never had it, so however much I'd like to help, I'm not really personally qualified. What I'd suggest as a definitely harmless possibility would be B vitamins, amino acids, and some really good quality fresh food. I sincerely hope that's some use. Get well, hope.
@shoelover (896)
• Australia
12 Jan 07
Exercising is great when you suffer with depression. It releases endorphins which make you happy. My husband has been on different psych medications for about 8 years and has finally found one that is good for him. He is going to counselling also which helps him overcome the things that were holding him back in his recovery. He has been told though he has to stay on the meds for the rest of his life. He is a depressive agressive and being medicated is a lot easier to live with.
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• Australia
12 Jan 07
Glad to hear the counseling's working, some people seem to get nothing from that, so something's going right. I'm not kidding about the supplements. You only need to take the ordinary dose, it's simple, and it helps. I found B vitamins particularly helpful. The biochemical salts, Potassium phosphate, Calcium Phosphate, Magnesium Phosphate, and sometimes the antacids Sodium phosphate and Sodium Sulphate, really did a lot to help the liver and prevent acidity, which can make anything that much more lousy an experience. Amino acids also seem particularly useful, particularly for over 40s. I figure that over 40, you start needing to replace the prehistoric ration pack you were born with. I know so many people who hit 40 and instantly get depression, that there must be some connection. I was 40 myself.
@celray (141)
• United States
13 Jan 07
I was diagnosed with depression a couple of years ago i stared taking one medication after another , nothing seemed to be helping so i decided to get out of medication and it wasn't fun the side effects were horrible but now i feel much better even though i do have to loose weight and it is not going to be easy to excersise because i have fibromialgia but i am decided that i am not going back to medications and i am going to make it , thanks for sharing your story.
• Australia
13 Jan 07
Yoga and Qigong, (aka Tai Chi) are good for convalescent or movement impaired people, you can even do the exercises in bed.
• United States
27 Jan 07
A diagnosis of depression, in one of its many faces can be such a relief too!! I have also overcome depression. I take a combo of 3 meds because I have depression, ocd, and am bipolar. I am thankful every day that I have a diagnosis, great meds a dr. I adore a couple websites I post at and have found wonderful caring support at... Wanderlaugh, good for you that you are med free, if I read correctly. I know I will be taking meds the rest of my life as I have a chemical imbalance. Look forward to getting to know others here!1 lovemy cats
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• Australia
27 Jan 07
Hi, lovemycats (I'm a cat addict myself) Yeah, med free for years, now. Quite agree about the diagnosis. My doctor watched me like a 4 foot 10 hawk, really attentive and helpful. I found the meds and some DIY self-rebuilding a relief, that I could do so much for myself. You'll see on some of the other posts that a couple of others did much the same thing, (notably farmboss) and beat their depression. I found one decent meal can help, and even some simple supplements can smooth things quite a bit. Organic food was like a drink to a thirsty man in a desert, for some reason. Suggestion: check out some things called Schuessler's salts, (search Schuessler) or sometimes celloid salts. These are electrolytes, and I found them very useful for getting my nervous system off the ceiling and feeling like itself again. Non toxic, but on principle check with your doctor if they can interact with any meds. I found them extremely helpful.
@banta78 (4326)
• India
13 Jan 07
I feel depression happens when person is depressed, very sad for long periods of time and person's active life is affected as person's work, life, personal and professional commitnments suffer and peson becomes a nerve wreck. i think depression can happen to any person at any age and mostly people who are very sentimental and shy and are less social seem to be more affected. i am also interested in this topic as i myself have had phases when i was depressed, had mood swings which affected my normal life. but initally with medication and then with proper diet and drinking lot of fluids and doing exercises, yoga and meditation and deep breathing exercises and chanting prayers has been very helpful. As exercises and aerobics improves our physical condition and chanting prayers and meditation calms and relaxes us mentally. Besides i feel if we are totally positive and have a sense of humour and ability to laugh at ourselves and keep ourselves busy in life then you can esily overcome depression as it is only a mental condition and nothing more.
@riyasam (16556)
• India
13 Jan 07
i was on anti-depressants for some time .now i stopped it as it was a mild depression.i have started excercising as my doctor advised me.
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• Australia
13 Jan 07
Good to hear. I think the more people that know there's something they can do for themselves, the better.
• India
13 Jan 07
you're right, many people are not told what to do after such a devastating diagnosis. But i think there's a time when one feels he or she has enough courage to back on one's feet and head toward reconstruction. I really do thing this is a condition that needs a lot of self-inititative to beat or even manage. It takes a lot of determination, whether it means paying attention to your diet, exercising or even accepting that you depression - and staying on course with meds.
• Australia
13 Jan 07
I'm hoping people reading this thread will see that other people, as well as me, have tried this "rebuilding" approach, and it worked for them. Self-help really is a verb.
@Trevan82 (67)
• Sweden
13 Jan 07
Just the other day i saw mankind go down! I just heard that you need a medical proof that your medicaly ill. I suffer from depression and crohns. Bad combo. Im not so sure i will get my next paycheck from the state. How can you really deal with depression besides getting really fit?
• Australia
13 Jan 07
I hated depression so much that I swear I'd get out of a grave to fight it. I do think that recognition of it for what it is, a lousy, filthy thing that has no right to be in a human mind, is what made me sure I could beat it. Hope things work out for you.
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• United States
13 Jan 07
I really need to get help with my depression to. but im just to scared and emberassed. *sigh*
• Australia
13 Jan 07
Do it, man. Advice, at least, is usually some sort of reference point. The world is currently getting more sufferers from depression than STDs, AIDs and anything other than TB. You're not alone.
• Romania
13 Jan 07
depression can come from many parts,family,friends or not having any... it is hard for one to get on by himself...It depends of each one's psichic fragility...I always say one has to ask for professional help
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• Australia
13 Jan 07
Thanks, Equilibrium, for that point. There is no intention to suggest that professional help is irrelevant. Doctors, psychologists, dieticians, and pharmacists, gym teachers, yoga instructors, the list is endless. ****As a matter of fact, I'd welcome any professional comments on this thread.****
• United States
13 Jan 07
In some people depression is caused by a chemical imbalance int he brain which is inborn. All the diet, excercise and vitamins in the world cannot cure it. In other people the chemical imbalance was triggered by some other event, or poor general health, and can be reversed by taking medication short term, and/or improving one's health. But it is a mistake to believe that everyone can be "cured" this way. Beating depression is not a case of mind over matter. In many people the only way to correct the chemical imbalance is the correct medication. No one should feel guilty or weak for depending on medication. There are many of us for whom it's the only viable long term solution.
• Australia
13 Jan 07
Excellent point. In which case, some good food and decent dietary support can only help. Thank you for mentioning the support factor in medication, some people seem to have missed that point. I took my medication, as told. I did the entire course, and would have continued if I'd needed it. What's being suggested here is self-management of physical needs. The idea is to bolster the body's capacity, and in the case of anyone with depression, it needs whatever they can give it.
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• Philippines
13 Jan 07
According to WANDERLAUGH, epression is a physical condition with mental side effects. But I beg to disagree, depression is a more serious "after-effect" of deep psychological problems that need urgent solution. In this situation, a patient used different defense mechanism to unconciuosly hide in order for them to temporarily forget such terrific condition. Both scientific medication and proper communication in the family or friends also give long-term solution. If one is a religious person, spirituality boost faith to unseen force of this world base on our beliefs.
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@bam001 (940)
• United States
14 Jan 07
I was diagnosed with depression in 1999. I really did fight hard. I was on antidepressants and went to counseling sessions weekly. It took 5 years, but I did recover completely. I do still have days that I feel down, but I do know that I can overcome depression with the right help...and I am not afraid to seek help when I need it. I find that the one-on-one counseling seems to help best.
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@edelweiss (1929)
• India
13 Jan 07
Been there... got out of it.! Yes, I got out of my depression. Despite so many medicines or doctors advices, I think the only solution to your depression is YOU, YOURSELF! If you have the desire to get out of your depression and to fight it, you'll get out it. You can choose your own solution. It could be doing your work and choosing hobbies of your choice to keep yourself entertained. I dont mean here keeping yourself busy.. No. I mean is keeping yourself entertained, meeting people, talking to them, sometimes partying, literally throwing bad thoughts out. And meanwhile finding solutions to your problems and securing your and your families future in the process.
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@vanities (11395)
• Davao, Philippines
13 Jan 07
congratulations you did it..im glad that you overcome it...although i havent yet experienced that kind of illness..i have been reading all about depressions in books and here on my lot also..and i think what you did was more effective...depression in only in your mind..if you keep yourself busy and exercise it will help you a lot..
• United States
13 Jan 07
I agree but sometimes it takes more than we have when were bound with things we cant get rid of. It takes special things to get to the place where you are at. do you have money? do you have children? do you have disease? do you have education? do you have a husband that provides? do you have friends and family that love and support you? you cant speak and be free untill you have peace. I had peace but Im trying to get the joy back in my life. all trials are for testing and learning and growing and its never complete till we are with the lord. hes not done with you yet my friend lulu
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@adnanmd2 (830)
13 Jan 07
well gud description.. I really liked it and i too agree with you
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@totalguy (563)
13 Jan 07
im sorry but depression is a mental condition with physical side effects not the other way around, i have suffered with it for years but learnt to deal with it my own way i also have another conditionwhich actually causes me to be depressed and taking anti depresants affects it so i cant really win that way, i only take prescribed pain killers nowadays ive come ot the conclusion anti depresants do not work for me and iwas told also by a phyciatrist that in order for anti depresants to work you have to also help yourself and due to my other condition which cant be treated by prescribed medicines to an extent im in a dilema. but lifes to short to go worrying about whats wrong with you just get on with it, youve been dealt the cards you have to live with it. different things work for different people i have my own way to deal with my problems it may not be the best solution but its been the most effective for me, it took several years to get to this conclusion so i have thought it through.
• India
13 Jan 07
hi wanderlaugh, its true that depression or any sort of feeling should be worked out personally apart from taking tablets or advice from outside. Each one should try to beat it out only with positive reinforcement in their own minds. Whatever advice one keeps listening to is of no use unless it is put in to action. Unlike other problems mental problems are best solved when one works from within. Beating depression is one such kind. Congratualtions on the amount of effort that you have put to beat it. It would be really encouraging for others too. Keep it up. God bless you with a strong and a healthy mind.