Here's a topic I'd like opinions on.

United States
January 19, 2007 11:43pm CST
Every time I turn around I see topics and news discussions on what's being banned. Banning spanking, banning smoking. Almost all of the non smokers thinks it great all this smoking banning. But what happens when, yes I said when, they start banning other things like red meat, candy, salt, alcohol, and gas. Just to name a few things that are bad for you. It's ok when it doesn't affect you. But what about when it does affect you? Then you have a problem. What's everyone going to do when(again, I said when, because it will happen) they start banning other things. Because then, it's too late.
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38 responses
• United States
20 Jan 07
I agree with you 100%. It does seem like every time we turn around there is something else being banned. For I understand that it is supposed to be for health reasons, but i think instead of banning it all together that they should leave it as a choice to the consumer. I'm sure that someday in the not so far away future, many of the things that you mentioned along with many more will be banned. I would like to know why we meaning the general public, doesnt seem to have a say on these issues. I do not think that everything should be left up to congress. There has to be something that we the people can do to take back our "free" country.
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• United States
20 Jan 07
Exactly! What happened to this being the land of the free? My husband and I believe that when they talk about banning something, that we, the people, should have the final say so.
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@Phlamingho (7831)
• Denmark
20 Jan 07
You can't really compare eating red meat with smoking. You are still allowed to smoke in your own house where you don't bother anyone. In a resturant you bother every non smoker in there with your smoke. If you eat too much salt in a resturant then it's your problem, it doesn't affect anyone else. And if some day scientists come to the conclusion that salt is VERY bad for me and my country decide to ban it, well then I will trust that there's a reason for that ban and I will respect it.
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• United States
20 Jan 07
The point you are missing is that if we the people continue to let the government ban and dictate everything we do then we will no longer have any freedom. And actually red meat is just as bad for you. This land is suppose to be the land of the free, but it's not anymore.
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@rosey3223 (1569)
• United States
20 Jan 07
I have to add something here...what makes you think that they--the government--is not going to start banning smokers from smoking in their house????? If they--the government--are trying to ban smoking in cars WHICH the smokers own as well and is not affecting anyone OUTSIDE of the car, then what makes you think that they are not going to try to go for the home as well???? Get real!! As soon as they hop on the "banning" wagon they are never gonna stop, and there is no telling how far they will try to go.
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@Jaytech (2251)
20 Jan 07
They've already started hinting towards that in the UK, people with council houses have been warned it's on the cards that they may be banned from smoking in these properties. Something else I feel needs to be pointed out, the fact that both our countries are going into wars together, & our laws & oppressive rules seem to be going the same way, call me a conspiracy theorist, but I feel this all goes a lot deeper.
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20 Jan 07
I agree with the ban of smoking in public places as I believe that we all have the human right to be able to breathe clean air, I already have asthma as a result of my father smoking in the house when I was a child, and I wouldn't want to wish that on anyone else. I think that everyone should have the choice of what to do as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else in the process. If someone wants to smoke - then let them smoke away from others - they should bring back smoking clubs and not subject the rest of us to passive smoking. It seems that we are being given less of a chance to vote on what we do or do not agree with - whatever is the next thing to be banned. I work as a herbalist and there are certain herbs that have been banned for use by the general public so I can't prescribe them for my patients even though they are brilliant herbs. The reason for banning them? Because one government did a trial on them and found that there were side effects and so banned the use for everyone - what really happened was that they didn't trial the use of the herbs in the way a herbalist would actually use them, which would result in no side effects. But, rather than listen to a herbalist following a tradition that spans thousands of years, they made the decision for us instead. It seems to be the governments that decide what should be banned, and they need to ask us for our opinions first and base the judgment on the majority of opinions rather than their own misleading version of why that particular thing should be banned. They are taking the choice away from us, and that's what is wrong with banning things.
@samsonskola (3357)
• United States
20 Jan 07
exactly the point i've been trying to make...in several states you can't smoke in your own vehicle with anyone under 18...next it will be that you can't smoke in your own home...freedoms are being taken away slowly so as to not draw attention as to what's happening...it will happen as you said, and i for one am very worried about the future of this country...
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• United States
20 Jan 07
Thats right. What does the future hold for our children? They will be living a life of being told what they can and can't do. It's only going to get worse. Pretty soon America will no longer be know as the land of the free.
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@Jaytech (2251)
20 Jan 07
I wish governments would just back off & leave us live our lives in peace. Here in the UK banning is slowly becoming a popular sport. But what I am noticing is a parallel with the States, regarding political correctness, which is so often the cause of banning stuff. Can't do this, can't do that, someone will be offended, so? It isn't like we purposely go about purposely looking to cause offence, the reality is, there are so many people everywhere there's always going to be someone that doesn't like something or a general moaner that will find something to moan about & take offense.
• United States
20 Jan 07
That is so right! No matter what, someone is going to find something they don't like.
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@Asylum (48224)
• Manchester, England
20 Jan 07
This is very true, and gasoline is the obvious target due to the effect on the ozone layer. People complain that I smoke and that it could affect them as well, but if they drive a car then their actions are definitely affecting my life. Another factor that is often ignored is that if smoking ceased the governments would lose a vast revenue, which in turn would constitute a large rise in taxation for everybody whether they currently smoke or not.
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• United States
20 Jan 07
Thats right. And smokers pay a vast majority of the taxes.
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@gabs8513 (48715)
• United Kingdom
20 Jan 07
Well said this and of course that is when there will be uproar because something is being banned that they like I am hoping that now People will think about it specially the ones that seem to think it is so great that Smoking is being banned from everywhere Thank you for bringing this up
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• United States
20 Jan 07
I'm just sick and tired of hearing how its ok to take the smoker's rights away! But mark my words, when they start banning the things the non smokers enjoy they will start seeing what we are talking about. I wish people would start seeing the whole picture. Once the government gets away with this, they will continue banning things until they have full control over everything we do. Scary, isn't it.
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• United States
20 Jan 07
As a non smoker who grew up with a smoking mom and my 3 son's smoke plus my husband. I've never allowed it in my home and fortunatly my family has been respectful of that. However, I have friends, I guess they are friends, who turn down invitations to my home and I know it is because they cannot smoke in my home. Now how fair is that to me? I put up with smoking in restaurants/bars because I choose to go there and enjoy the band, dancing, time with friends, etc...so why do smokers not extend the same courtesy to us non smokers? So you gotta step outside in the cold to smoke, jeze I have to suck it in with every breath at a smokers home or in a bar.
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• United States
20 Jan 07
I have no problem with smoking outside. I have friends that don't smoke in their homes and it never stopped me from going to visit them. My mom doesn't allow smoking in her home. So when I go to visit her(which is alot) I go outside to smoke. I have no problem with being respectful to non smokers. Until they start disrespecting me and my right to smoke.
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@MrNiceGuy (4147)
• United States
20 Jan 07
Thats the whole reason there should be outrage that they are banning trans fats in NYC or public smoking in other areas. Its just dumb. THey aren't allowed to do it for other personal choices, why are they allowed to interfere just becuase some liberal interpretist judges think they are helping us? Whatever happened to limited government?
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• United States
20 Jan 07
I'd like to know the same thing!
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@emisle (3823)
• Ireland
20 Jan 07
What you're saying is the same as the tactics that some protesters use. For example, on the debate of gay marraige, i believe that some people said,'what next, people marrying animals?'..just because you ban something like smoking doesn't mean that another thing immediately gets put in the firing line. Smoking in public places wasn't fair on other people, and especially workers who had to work in a polluted atmosphere...i don't see how someone eating red meat etc would have quite the same effect!
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• United States
20 Jan 07
Appearently you don't follow the news. Banning smoking was the first step. Now they are banning spanking your child, types of food being served in fast food restrurants, etc. Red meat is bad for you. Especially nowadays with all of the hormones they put in meat. Banning smoking is unfair! Letting the government decide what we should be allowed to do is unfair to everyone.
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@emisle (3823)
• Ireland
21 Jan 07
I'm from Ireland and that hasn't featured on Irish, or British news from what I've seen. That's surprising because our smoking ban has been in place for over 2 years and nothing like what's happening in the US has happened over here.
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• United States
21 Jan 07
Well, I wish it wasn't happening here.
• United States
20 Jan 07
I understand your opinion completely, but I cannot agree. Do you know how many people die from lung cancer a year? It's a fact smoking kills, and the government is just trying to save lives. Candy, read meat, and salt really won't kill you if don't misuse it, whereas smoking can and most likely will. I strongly believe in a ban against smoking in certain public places. I do not want a young person getting their lungs filled with tar.
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• United States
20 Jan 07
If you do a little research you will find nothing causes lung cancer. You either have that gene in you when you are born or you don't. I'm not saying that smoking is bad for you. But do you realize that your lungs are filled with tar just by stepping outside your home and breating in the air. It's not clean. Between the vehicles and all of the plants(I'm talking about the one people work at not the ones that grow in the ground) there's more toxins in the air than you can possibly image. Smoking doesn't kill. cnacer kills. Oh, BTW, what about acohol? More people die from drinking and driving.
@shywolf (4520)
• United States
20 Jan 07
I have to agree, there is a fine line and it's really hard to know how far it can be taken. I didn't really agree about banning smoking in cars, simply hecause that's basically saying that one can't smoke in the privacy of their own space. I did understand that the upset was caused by the mother having her two small children in the car, and the windows rolled up, but I don't think that there is still any right in banning smoking in a private space. If you're going that far, you're going to have to ban something completely, and we all know that that isn't going to work. And then, as you were sort of saying, what next? Banning everything that is bad for us? And this is coming from a non-smoker, btw. Although I have smoked in my lifetime, it wasn't a habit that I kept up for very long. But I still believe in the people's choice to do what they want with their lives.
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• United States
20 Jan 07
Thank you! I am a smoker and I believe that if you are going to smoke in your car with your kids you should have the window rolled down at least some. But I don't believe we should be told we can't smoke in our cars. Thats our property. I'm afraid to know what else they are going to take from us.
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• United States
20 Jan 07
Unfortunately, people feel to realize is that this kind of action is yet another governmental intrusion where it is neither wanted or needed. When we lived near Houma, Louisiana, the Parish politicans narrowly voted in such a ban, not listening to the business owners (tax payers) who did not want yet another rule to follow. Now that we are in Alaska, we are seeing reports that Anchorage is considering the same. In regards to the non-smokers, I am one of them, our money is our power. There are plenty of places that make great efforts to seperate the smokers from the non-smokers. If you feel that second-hand smoke is affecting you, leave and take your money with you. The argument that by allowing this intrusion there will be others to follow is well founded. Now, California is attempting to regulate parenting by banning spanking of children under the age of three. Of couse when you read the articles quoting politicans, about the need to "beat" a child. It is this kind of language that is used to garner support for such crazy ideas. What will be next? We have so many rules and regulations, I am sure that each of us breaks something at least at some point. At some point we will either wake up and put our elected officials on notice, or we will wake up to realize we are enslaved to the system we allowed to be created.
• United States
20 Jan 07
Well put.
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@lastwish (780)
• India
20 Jan 07
Yeh i agree with you and thanks for that, a very nice way to explaining your thaought.
• United States
20 Jan 07
Thank you
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• United States
20 Jan 07
I personally think that there arent many things in life that should be banned because a person has the discretion and choice to do what they want to do and if they feel it is what they want then why not let them do it. Now when other peoples safety is put into jeopardy then that is something that you should look at, but when it comes to something that only affects that person then there isnt much you can do about it.
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• United States
20 Jan 07
I believe we should be able to live our lives as we see fit. It's our lives after all.
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@sigma77 (5385)
• United States
20 Jan 07
Good points. The more they take our rights away, the more they think they have the right to do it. They, meaning the governments and special interest groups who want to tell everyone how to live. Once they start, they don't stop until your rights are abolished and you end up living in the same closed mind boxes that these wacko's live in. It is nutzomania. I want the freedom to make my own choices based on what I think and believe. Can you spell communism?
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• United States
20 Jan 07
My point exactly. It's not just smoking, it's everything.
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@lvhughes (545)
• United States
20 Jan 07
i agree but this is already happening. fast Food restruants have had to change the way they cook food to reduce the saturated fats because the government is banning them from selling fatty foods. they are tring to make it were fast food places can only sell healthy non fat foods. so you are deffently right but its not think when think now.
• United States
20 Jan 07
Like I said, the government is going to control everyhing we do. Before long we will have no more freedom.
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• China
20 Jan 07
Good topic..I strongly oppose so many bannings.. you are right..especially I am a smoker. I have my rights of smoking in my private place and time... nobody can preventing me from smokeing..
• United States
20 Jan 07
No one should have the power to tell us what is allowed and what isn't allowed.
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• United States
20 Jan 07
The problem with banning things, is that people want it more if it is banned. I personally would like to see smoking banned because I am deadly allergic to it, but I know that by banning smoking, people will just want it more.
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@TerryZ (22083)
• United States
20 Jan 07
Well I say then I die. I dont want to walk around wandering all the time if this is good for me or not. That is just plan rediculious. Everything is bad for you. So do things in moderation. you cant go around freaking out about things. Live and let live.
@villageanne (8554)
• United States
20 Jan 07
This is an interesting question that you pose to the mylot group. I too am concerned about all the rules and laws that lawmakers are making. I think they ought to take the time to enforce the laws that we already have before they go making new ones. The laws are not being enforced. If the laws already in place were inforced, they may find that other or new laws are not necessary. What is up with these crazy lawmakers anyway?
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