Why bash America ?

@resasour (378)
United States
January 20, 2007 4:30pm CST
Why is it that other cultures/countries bash America or American people just so they get alot of responses to their topic? I would think it would be difficult at best to make friends here on mylot if you keep bashing Americans, or our country. It just seems odd that it gets our goat and prompts us to reply to "defend" ourselves, our values, or our country when a foreigner verbally attacks. At first, it would get my goat to, but then I started noticing a pattern.. If you look, you will notice that discussions about Americans especially if bad, seems to provoke us into responding. Hence alot of responses. Am I crazy? Am I just being over sensitive? I have not noticed many Americans bashing other countries or cultures. Why do we so strongly feel the need to defend our country? Maybe if others thought America was a terrible place people would stop flocking here to live.. Just my opinion on that, but seriously.why do we respond so quickly to anti-america discussions?
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@ESKARENA1 (18300)
20 Jan 07
Im not American, but ive noticed a lot of Anti American feeling on mylot. I think there are two major reasons for this. One, American forign policy over the last 50 years or so has been interventionist in the extreme, all over the world. This is extremely insulting to the national pride of other countries and this is something Americans generally have difficulty understanding. Secondly, i feel many nations, particularly poor ones in Asia are jealous of Americas stregth and wealth. This jealousy finds its expression in Anti American sentiment on forums such as mylot good luck keep on posting
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@wahmoftwo (1298)
• United States
20 Jan 07
I think that was an excellent comment!
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@resasour (378)
• United States
20 Jan 07
I agree that we have the tendency to go a little overboard on being everyones "big brother" whether they like it or not. But we do not usually go make ourselves at home in a foreign land without being asked to come. So I can not help but feel like if they do not want our intervention, they need to be actively participating in their own government, and talk to them about asking us to leave. Us as Americans know that more than about 90% of our folks would much rather be spending their time here at home instead of on foreign soil. I do not think that justifies them creating Anti American sentiment anywhere.However, I do think alot of it is done just so they get alot of responses here from the americans on mylot since mylot is an american company. But that is just my opinion.
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@kiwimac (324)
• New Zealand
21 Jan 07
Hmmm, Do countries like Cuba, Venezuela, Iraq mean anything to you? The US has blockaded Cuba for the 'sin' of having a government you don't like, your country has meddled in the internal political life of ALL of the South American countries, overthrowing democratically elected governments not favourable to US interests and putting dictators in place and then there is Iraq. Perhaps you might see that while most of us like individual American Citizens, as a country you are definitely NOT on my Christmas Card List.
• United States
20 Jan 07
You know, America isn't perfect, by any stretch of the imagination, but I am still proud to be an American. I take it very personally when people who have never even stepped foot inside of this country make generalized imflamatory remarks about Americans and lump us all together as one group. I may be an American, but I am not America itself. I think it's highly unfair to judge someone just because they were born in a certain country and a moron got elected into office.
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@ESKARENA1 (18300)
20 Jan 07
hahaha good point, although i do think you are a little harsh on morons, most of them have a much higher iq than bush
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• United States
21 Jan 07
True story. That guy is embarrassing, quite frankly. You can literally see him struggling to sound like he's got a functioning brain in his head. Scarey...
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• Canada
13 Feb 07
Most Canadians have been to America at least once in our lives, if not multiple times, and the general consensus is that Americans are full of themselves! I think if any country is qualified to lay judgment on America, it is the Canadians! We even have to put up with your networks on our cable! We know ALL about your country! Everything America does directly affects us! I do however find a little comfort in the fact that well over 60% of your country agrees with you in that a "moron" was elected into office.
@MrNiceGuy (4148)
• United States
21 Jan 07
I think there are a lot of people trying to goad peole into responding, but I also think there are a lot of anti)American sentiments on the internet. Lots of people in other countries with bad education, corrupted media, and access to the internet really can't be a good recipe.
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@vicky1 (241)
• United States
21 Jan 07
I think they do it because of some of the peoples post on here. I seen post of Americans talking about the people that cant write English very well and are based for that. So really how is that any differant then these post? I am American also but I could really care less if someone doesn't care for me or if someone can't read well or spell at least they try.
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@MrNiceGuy (4148)
• United States
21 Jan 07
Well, thats different since this is an english speaking forum and it is actually hurtful to the site if people speak broken english.
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@missjackie (1328)
• Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
21 Jan 07
Why bash America? Because America thinks it's the greatest country in the world and can bully other countries. This country is not as great as everyone thinks it is. It likes to poke its' nose in other countries' business and thinks it's okay to do so. How would you like it if I poked my nose in your business? Would you be upset? On top of that, the things this country is doing to its' own people, is just down right horrible.
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@FiredUp (270)
• United States
21 Jan 07
Hear! Hear! I get tired of hearing it. They bash us all the time, yet whenever a country is in trouble, who do they call on. Then we get bashed if we don't respond quick enough or with enough money. I think it stinks that we are made the scapegoat for the world's troubles.
• United States
29 Jan 07
I think you are RIGHT ON TARGET. We have been made the scapegoat for the world's problems. By the way, why do you think the whole world knows who The American Red Cross is? What do you suppose would happen if The American Red Cross declined to respond to any of the numerous disasters in the rest of the world? Thank you for the opportunity to get this off my chest.
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@kawillow74 (1417)
• United States
21 Jan 07
They don't live here so all they can do is speculate maybe they are just jerlous who knows I try not to responsed to those topic I think it is just stupid the last one I seen was we are a fat country well how do they know. I just laugh and glad I am a american.
21 Jan 07
I agree, there has also been a lot of anti-uk topics recently too. I just ignore them now because like you said, people create them to annoy others, get lots of responses because they know people are going to defend themselves, etc. I actually find it very petty, everyone is entitled to their own opinion but some opinions are better left unsaid, especially when it is highly provoking and being really nasty about another country and its culture - usually without actually visiting that country and get information second hand through the media.
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@wahmoftwo (1298)
• United States
20 Jan 07
I think you are right on here. That is why I didn't respond to that discussion entitled "Why I hate Americans." It really makes me angry to see that kind of stuff. Thanks for posting this thread. Maybe everyone will ignore those people that are trying to spread hate.
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@Pikkie (71)
• South Africa
29 Jan 07
I know exactly how you feel!!!I live in South Africa and it seems the whole world thinks that every white person in SA is a racist, no offence, but I went to America and England and the people there were very nasty towards me. Some of my best friends are black and I just couldn't believe it. I was to young to take part in the Apartheid era that was in SA, but still people judge us as youth of our Nation. Believe me you are not alone in that boat of yours.
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• New Zealand
29 Jan 07
It is so very easy for the pea-brain to tar every body and everything with the same brush. Many of our South African, Rhodesian, German and Japanese friends have expressed similar sentiments. It is horrible for children and grandchildren to pay for the sins of their ancestors - but this is what seems to be happening in no small measure. I will never forget watching helplessly when six british bullies picked on a german fellow tourist in a youth hostel in Asia and baited and bullied this solo traveller for all the sins of Hitler. He was a rather inoffensive fellow, with moderate english. The brits beat up the german and left town. It being a developing country, the german had no recourse. Yes, I do empathise with your experience.
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@rosie_123 (6118)
21 Jan 07
Interesting discussion - thanks for starting it. Firstly - I am not American but I do have many friends in the States - so I guess I can look at this more from the outside as an "objective" observer. I think it is mainly the point that another poster has already made - that America's interventionist policies in places like Iran have made the country many enemies in the rest of the world - we really genuinely do not see why US troops are there, and when we see the bombings in Baghdad on our TVs and so many children dying, then we are obviously upset by it. Also your President is universally unpopular outside of America for his right-wing policies, and his refusal to help on environemntal issues. And yes - of course I am aware that he does not speak for all American people and many did not vote for him and are unhappy with him too. There is also a slight tendancy from some Americans (again not all) that because their country is so much bigger than everwhere else they think they are much more important - and the rest of us don't like it at all - espeically those of us in Europe who have equal democracies and freedoms and have a culture and history going back thousands of years. In my opinion - people are people - I have friends of every race, colour and creed and wish to keep it that way. Don't be too upset by peoples' comments - but also please do not say I am jeaslous of the States because I am more than happy in the UK and would never want to cross the Atlantic to live.
• India
21 Jan 07
with the current state of affairs, and the way people look at bush these days, you can't help it if people are bashing america. i too don't agree with a few policies, okay, quite a few, but yes, i don't bash. i just bring them to light occasionally. but everyone is not me, and lots of people see nothing but the american government in the name of america. and they are not shown a pretty picture. so you can't help it if they go bashing. all americans cannot be bad of course. but when a finger is pointed at a nation, people usually have mighty good reasons for doing it, or should have them at least. and people are not bashing americans, i think they are jsut bashing bush. or don't intend anything else at least.
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@blueskies (1186)
• United States
20 Jan 07
I agree with you 100%. I think that many of the members here that start such discussions only do it to increase their response rate. Personally, I refuse to respond to discussion that I feel encourage hate, discrimination, racism, anti-semitism, or anything similar. I don't want to associate with such people, so why would I want to help them earn money?
@coffeechat (1961)
• New Zealand
29 Jan 07
Resasour, I am not American though I have family that are. A jihadist recently posted a vitriolic bash against Americans and Canadians. He got quite a few angry responses. He also got a number of"egging" on responses. He then went on to post an Apology to Americans which was calculated to bring out the "milk of human kindess" response. All the Americans who participated in the original post, and so many others wafted in and posted commiseratively kind responses. He had everyone playing like a fiddle, executing an Islamic strategy called Taquiya and Kitman. (Holy Hypocrisy). This is a strategy advocated in Islamic jurisprudence and theology) and is an important aspect of their fight against the non-believers. America is the new Rome. It continues to be every migrant's dream (I exxagerate a bit here.. but you get the idea). People respond so quickly because they are naive and generous.
@resasour (378)
• United States
29 Jan 07
Yes I read his post and decided not to respond. But I felt obligated to respond to his apology. I appreciate your point of view and enlightenment on this subject as well as an explanation of his posts yesterday. I kind of thought there was something deeper going on there. Thank you for posting. :)
@lump_z (116)
• United States
12 Feb 07
Your probably right, they know they will get good responses from all the bashing...I personally just shrug it off, Hell i live here and i don't see anything wrong with living here...now if i were president..lol, I would do a few things different, especially with our poor and elderly. But you are also right about the immagrants that flock our borders and all the illegal aliens, so sumthing must be right about the USA or why would people want to live here?
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@Bittiez (52)
• United States
21 Jan 07
I think they do it because they need someone to blame for the problems in the world, and automatically think that America is the cause.. And no your not being over sensitive, i agree 100% i wish they would stop, America isn't a bad place, once you have lived there.
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@TerryZ (22085)
• United States
21 Jan 07
Because like you said they are just trying to get us mad so we will respond. I use to respond to them and give em hell, but not any more. Im not going to fall into their hands. They know that america is a great place to live. Personally I wish they all would get out of here and go to where they came from. Dam foreigners.
@ghostbat (156)
• Canada
21 Jan 07
It' not that were bashing America or Americans, it's that were asking stuff about them, as you said were from other counties, and that's our way to understand and get our questions answered.
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• Canada
13 Feb 07
I have to respond to this! I do not take kindly to the American culture! Here in Canada we are well known for being a peaceful country, but what is not known unless you come here for a good discussion is that our country hates America! If you remember when George bush visited, he said a now famous quote. "I would like to thank all of the Canadians who came out to wave to me - with all five fingers". Yes, we do bash America, and no, we don't like being associated in any way as Americans! Upon a recent visit to Orlando, it was not uncommon to find many of you who didn't even know where Calgary is! It's bigger than Orlando, and has twice the population! How could you not know? Americans tend to be very wrapped up in their own little world, and pay no attention to what is going on outside! The world does not revolve around America! If Americans were a little more adept to involve themselves in the world society, and start to realize that they aren't all gods, maybe the rest of the world would like them a little more!
@resasour (378)
• United States
13 Feb 07
I have to disagree with you there. Not all canadians hate america or americans and vice-versa. The point of this discussion was that while each country has it's problems, there were (about a month ago) many discussions started by people from other countries about hating both america and americans.. and my point was that those discussions in particular were getting alot more responses than many of the other topics posted on mylot; and I attempted to point out that alot of these america bashing topics were created not because people were sharing their opinion, but because they knew that those topics would get alot of responses..why? Because this is an american owned website (imagine that!) and all these responses will increase their earnings and ratings here on mylot.. so my last point was why do we give in to them by responding to defend ourselves? They are only trying to create a topic that will get better responses to increase their earnings. You can hate America all you want.. that is great.. then we will not need be concerned with your coming here.. Personally, I know some Canadians, and I like them very much. I have never been to Canada but have always wanted to go.. oh, and by the way.. I know where Calgary is.. as well as the history there too. Since you are new to mylot, I will also add that you are free to state your opinion on any topic, but when you start trying to speak on behalf of everyone in your country (which throws the lot of you into a barrel and makes you seem a little bit narrow minded) you may open up the possibility of attacks from your own people as well as other... just a thought for you.. Also, welcome to mylot and happy posting!
29 Jan 07
its bull everyone is anti american and anti english its just because we dont take crap and if we think we can help people like iraq we do then get s**t for it.
@kmgupta (561)
• India
21 Jan 07
americans has lot of free time to discuss their problems